2410 Uniforms: A Proposal To Cryptic Studios

baddmoonrizin

2410 UNIFORMS: A PROPOSAL TO CRYPTIC STUDIOS

Star Trek Online is a persistent, ever-growing galaxy with a myriad number of players and player types. Some are here to role-play. Some are here to PvP. Some are here to grow their characters and their fleets. Some are here to play episodic story missions provided by Cryptic Studios or other players via the Foundry. All are here “to boldly go” and experience the wonder that is Star Trek.

So, it’s finally 2410 and Starfleet has implemented a new uniform code! It seems that the forums and chat channels are all ablaze with talk about the new uniform that Starfleet will be outfitting its personnel with across the fleets. One of the problems that many players are having with this snazzy new uniform is that it is locked behind the Fleet Advancement System, requiring a given Fleet to unlock the Tier 3 Starbase AND the Fleet Tailor AND requiring the player to purchase it for 16,000 Dilithium (DIL) + 8000 Fleet Credits (FC).

As any Fleet can tell you, building a Tier 3 Starbase and unlocking the Fleet Tailor is no small feat, and some of the smaller Fleets aren’t quite there yet. Fortunately, all a player has to do is get an invite to a Tier 3 Starbase with the Fleet Tailor unlocked and they can purchase the Odyssey Basic Uniform if they have the 16,000 DIL + 8000 FC. Unfortunately, not all players choose to be part of a Fleet, so they most likely do not have the required 8000 FC to make the purchase even if they did get an invite to a Fleet Starbase.

So, Cryptic has implemented a new Starfleet Uniform Code, soon to be rolled out across all of Starfleet, but not everyone (players) can easily acquire the uniform that is to become the new standard. What to do?

FASHION TRENDS

It would be smart of Cryptic to capitalize on the hype generated by standardizing the Odyssey Uniform as THE uniform of Starfleet 2410. To that end, put the Odyssey Basic Uniform that is available from the Fleet Tailor in the C-Store, which would allow all players to meet the new 2410 uniform standard with their crews as well, if they so choose. Some additional items should be included in the new C-Store version of the Odyssey Basic Uniform to encourage Fleet members to purchase a uniform that they have already unlocked.

Therefore, the Odyssey Basic Uniform should include:

Odyssey Jacket
Odyssey Pants
Odyssey Skirt
Odyssey Shoes
Odyssey Boots (to be worn with the Odyssey Skirt)
Odyssey Belt

EXCLUSIVE FASHIONS

But let’s not make all that effort that Fleets put in to unlocking their Fleet Tailor be in vain. Fleets would get an exclusive version of the Odyssey Uniform available only at the Fleet Tailor for the aforementioned 16,000 DIL + 8000 FC. This new uniform, the Odyssey Fleet Uniform, would replace the current Odyssey Uniform available from the Fleet Tailor and be automatically awarded to those that have already purchased the current Odyssey Basic Uniform. The Odyssey Fleet Uniform would be based on the version worn by Admiral Jorel Quinn at Earth Spacedock.

Therefore, the Odyssey Fleet Uniform should include:

Odyssey Fleet Jacket (with gold piping)
Odyssey Pants (with gold stripe)
Odyssey Skirt (with gold stripe)
Odyssey Belt (with gold buckle)
Jupiter Veteran Belt (with gold buckle)

KLINGON FASHIONISTAS

Klingons should not be left out of the new 2410 fashion trends, and so, we look at the Bortasqu’ Uniform. I’m not familiar with all the parts that are supposed to come with the Bortasqu’ Basic Uniform, but I’ve heard that not all parts are currently available for some reason. Now is the time to fix that: Make all of the parts available for use and move the Bortasqu’ Basic Uniform into the C-Store, making it available to all, and provide a shiny new Bortasqu’ Fleet Uniform, ala the Honor Guard Armor, exclusively for the Fleet Tailor.

BOGO (BUY ONE GET ONE) DEALS

Lastly, we bundle the 2410 Standard Uniforms, both Odyssey and Bortasqu’ uniforms, together in an account unlock for the C-Store (Fleet Uniforms will remain a character by character unlock from the Fleet Tailor). Bundling the uniforms together ensures greater sales of the uniforms, PLUS, and here’s the cross-faction draw: Federation players would be able to dress their Diplomacy BOFFs in the Bortasqu’ Basic Uniform and Klingon players would be able to dress their Marauding BOFFs in the Odyssey Basic Uniform. Romulan players would not be left out, as their allied faction BOFFs and Diplomacy/Marauding BOFFS would be able to wear these uniforms as well.



Anyway, these are some of my suggestions on how the Star Trek Online 2410 Uniforms could be offered to the players-at-large. I don’t pretend to know how all of the behind-the-scenes business of the game works. I just know what I see in-game, and what I’d like to see in-game. Perhaps all of these suggestions could work. Perhaps none of them could work. What do you think?

captw

I like this idea, here is my take on what they "Could do", the fleet one has a shiny trim on it. For the C-Store version make that trim matte. Trust me I would still buy the Fleet one for my Flag Officers.

caeloaeturnum

+1 especially in regards to the Bortasqu' uniform. Only half of what's seen in most of the promo pictures is available. The shoulder pads and sash are the most glaring omissions.

baddmoonrizin

captw wrote: »

I like this idea, here is my take on what they "Could do", the fleet one has a shiny trim on it. For the C-Store version make that trim matte. Trust me I would still buy the Fleet one for my Flag Officers.

Well, this is exactly what I mean by the gold piping/stripes for the Odyssey Fleet Uniforms. Just like the one that Admiral Jorel Quinn is wearing on ESD.

Unless, what you mean by shiny trim is more like the "Decorated" versions of some of the uniforms.

I'm thinking more like the "Gold" versions, but just restrict the gold elements to the piping and stripes, and of course the belts.

nikkojt

Something to consider as part of this: add an Open variant of the Odyssey Basic Uniform jacket to either the C-Store purchase proposed by the OP, or the existing Open Jacket bundle.

baddmoonrizin

caeloaeturnum wrote: »

+1 especially in regards to the Bortasqu' uniform. Only half of what's seen in most of the promo pictures is available. The shoulder pads and sash are the most glaring omissions.

Yes, this definitely needs to be remedied. I think the Bortasqu' uniform is the best uniform the Klingons have, and yet, it seems half the uniform isn't even available to be worn. Considering the very limited options that Klingons have in regards to uniforms, I'd think that this would be an important thing to set right.

baddmoonrizin

nikkojt wrote: »

Something to consider as part of this: add an Open variant of the Odyssey Basic Uniform jacket to either the C-Store purchase proposed by the OP, or the existing Open Jacket bundle.

I had not thought of the Open Variant. Good call!

captw

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Well, this is exactly what I mean by the gold piping/stripes for the Odyssey Fleet Uniforms. Just like the one that Admiral Jorel Quinn is wearing on ESD.

Unless, what you mean by shiny trim is more like the "Decorated" versions of some of the uniforms.

I'm thinking more like the "Gold" versions, but just restrict the gold elements to the piping and stripes, and of course the belts.

I think on the Fleet Oddy uniforms the Trim is changeable, correct me if I'm wrong I only have one officer wearing the uniform.

baddmoonrizin

captw wrote: »

I think on the Fleet Oddy uniforms the Trim is changeable, correct me if I'm wrong I only have one officer wearing the uniform.

No, you're right. As it is now, the uniform currently available in the Fleet Tailor - the Odyssey Basic Uniform - does have color changeable trim.

I'm proposing that that uniform - the Odyssey Basic Uniform - be moved to the C-Store and replaced with a new uniform - arbitrarily designated Odyssey Fleet Uniform for this proposal - that has gold trim.

captainoblivous

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Yes, this definitely needs to be remedied. I think the Bortasqu' uniform is the best uniform the Klingons have, and yet, it seems half the uniform isn't even available to be worn. Considering the very limited options that Klingons have in regards to uniforms, I'd think that this would be an important thing to set right.

I would also open up the colour pallet for the KDFers. It's incredibly hard to come up with a decent combo that looks decent, especially as we're restricted as to what segments can be coloured on each part.

gurluas

Have my support! This is a good idea ^^

centersolace

Nonono. What should happen is the Basic Uniform becoming free for everyone, the shiny piping one becoming the new Fleet Uniform, the open variants (both with, and without undershirt) being added to the Open Uniform Bundle, aaaaaaaand MIRROR Odyssey uniforms being added to the C-Store!

baddmoonrizin

captainoblivous wrote: »

I would also open up the colour pallet for the KDFers. It's incredibly hard to come up with a decent combo that looks decent, especially as we're restricted as to what segments can be coloured on each part.

I quite agree with this sentiment, although a separate issue.

baddmoonrizin

centersolace wrote: »

Nonono. What should happen is the Basic Uniform becoming free for everyone, the shiny piping one becoming the new Fleet Uniform, the open variants (both with, and without undershirt) being added to the Open Uniform Bundle, aaaaaaaand MIRROR Odyssey uniforms being added to the C-Store!

Ummm... I appreciate the enthusiasm.

centersolace

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Ummm... I appreciate the enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm is what Star Trek is all about.

admiralcarter

I support this idea. More Odyssey Uniform means less Leather & lace suits. This is very well written down.

Odyssey for everyone!

baddmoonrizin

admiralcarter wrote: »

I support this idea. More Odyssey Uniform means less Leather & lace suits. This is very well written down.

Odyssey for everyone!

Thank you very much.

We were supposedly getting a Dev Blog on the new uniform code this week, so players can customize their uniforms accordingly, but alas we have yet to see it (I am aware of the reddit post, though). I'm hoping this is because this idea (or one similar to it) has already occurred to Cryptic and they are working to make it happen, and then publishing the Dev Blog in conjunction with a C-Store release.

jodarkrider

admiralcarter wrote: »

I support this idea. More Odyssey Uniform means less Leather & lace suits. This is very well written down.

Odyssey for everyone!

Agreed! :D

jexsamx

centersolace wrote: »

Nonono. What should happen is the Basic Uniform becoming free for everyone, the shiny piping one becoming the new Fleet Uniform, the open variants (both with, and without undershirt) being added to the Open Uniform Bundle, aaaaaaaand MIRROR Odyssey uniforms being added to the C-Store!

This man and his wonderful signature have the right idea.

thay8472

Yeah... Mirror Oddy uniforms!!!! need MOAR midriff!!!!!!

revandarklighter

I'd personally like them to do a completely new set of Starfleet uniforms as a "general" uniform.

I mean the Odysee uniform is... okey.... but not great. Every other Cryptic done uniform (I mean designed by them, not the ones taken from the series) always looked like TRIBBLE and compared to the better and more polished look the game had now (compared to release) they look even crapier and misplaced.

And given the pure awesomeness of the Romulan uniforms (and the fact that most of the adaptations from series uniforms look great) we KNOW they can do better. I mean I feel those designers might be the only people at Cryptic that are actually competent.

So, I would like to see a real new uniform en par with the romulans. Something unique.
I mean we saw VERY different types of uniforms in the series. Starting from the Overolls in enterprise through the awesome TOS movie uniforms to that jumpsuits in the TNG era. (ok there were ugly exploits like the TMP uniform or the early tng uniform....)
I don't think a new uniform MUST be a recapture of the TNG time style like the Odysee uniform is.

So I'd like to see a 25th century uniform that is "Starfleet" but also.... gorgeous. And unique.

baddmoonrizin

revandarklighter wrote: »

I'd personally like them to do a completely new set of Starfleet uniforms as a "general" uniform.

I mean the Odysee uniform is... okey.... but not great. Every other Cryptic done uniform (I mean designed by them, not the ones taken from the series) always looked like TRIBBLE and compared to the better and more polished look the game had now (compared to release) they look even crapier and misplaced.

And given the pure awesomeness of the Romulan uniforms (and the fact that most of the adaptations from series uniforms look great) we KNOW they can do better. I mean I feel those designers might be the only people at Cryptic that are actually competent.

So, I would like to see a real new uniform en par with the romulans. Something unique.
I mean we saw VERY different types of uniforms in the series. Starting from the Overolls in enterprise through the awesome TOS movie uniforms to that jumpsuits in the TNG era. (ok there were ugly exploits like the TMP uniform or the early tng uniform....)
I don't think a new uniform MUST be a recapture of the TNG time style like the Odysee uniform is.

So I'd like to see a 25th century uniform that is "Starfleet" but also.... gorgeous. And unique.

Well, that's a separate idea altogether. I don't think you'll see them switching to another "general" uniform for the time being. The Odyssey is the uniform of the day for now.

Now, I could get behind them issuing an update of the ENT MACO uniform as a combat uniform.

Just like the military has a dress/office uniform and a battlefield uniform, we could use Odyssey for our everyday-business-as-usual uniform and the new MACO for combat/field operations. But again another idea entirely.

centersolace

admiralcarter wrote: »

I support this idea. More Odyssey Uniform means less Leather & lace suits. This is very well written down.

Odyssey for everyone!

Agreed! (Not that there's anything wrong with leather and lace~)

jexsamx wrote: »

This man and his wonderful signature have the right idea.

captainoblivous

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

I quite agree with this sentiment, although a separate issue.

Though I detest the oddy uniform and would quite happily see it deleted, I agree with you strongly about the kdf outfit idea.
I had to post something after all

baddmoonrizin

captainoblivous wrote: »

Though I detest the oddy uniform and would quite happily see it deleted, I agree with you strongly about the kdf outfit idea.
I had to post something after all

I assume you're referring to my idea regarding the Bortasqu' Uniform. Yes, I'll be quite excited to put this uniform on my KDF toons once it is fully functional.

adverbero

My suggestion is that the Odyssey Basic be made free to all as a standard uniform

Ans as compensation People who purchased the uniform get the bloody long jacket version Quinn wears! I want cuff bands damn it

Oh and if they do go standard uniform, foundry Authors should have access to it in the mission editor, or our missions will have out of place NPCs

baddmoonrizin

adverbero wrote: »

My suggestion is that the Odyssey Basic be made free to all as a standard uniform

Ans as compensation People who purchased the uniform get the bloody long jacket version Quinn wears! I want cuff bands damn it

Oh and if they do go standard uniform, foundry Authors should have access to it in the mission editor, or our missions will have out of place NPCs

Well, I think it's more likely that Cryptic would release it to the C-Store as opposed to just giving it away for free, hence why I proposed the C-Store. Obviously, I wouldn't be opposed to it being released for free. I just think it's more likely that we'll get something if it can be monetized.

Let's face it: Cryptic is a business and of course they're going to want to see some return on their investment of time and development. I think if we can demonstrate that we're willing to work for and pay for something, then we're more likely to get it, than to just demand things be given away for free.

centersolace

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Well, I think it's more likely that Cryptic would release it to the C-Store as opposed to just giving it away for free, hence why I proposed the C-Store. Obviously, I wouldn't be opposed to it being released for free. I just think it's more likely that we'll get something if it can be monetized.

Let's face it: Cryptic is a business and of course they're going to want to see some return on their investment of time and development. I think if we can demonstrate that we're willing to work for and pay for something, then we're more likely to get it, than to just demand things be given away for free.

Yes, buuuuuuuut there are better ways to do that. :P

adverbero

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Well, I think it's more likely that Cryptic would release it to the C-Store as opposed to just giving it away for free, hence why I proposed the C-Store. Obviously, I wouldn't be opposed to it being released for free. I just think it's more likely that we'll get something if it can be monetized.

Let's face it: Cryptic is a business and of course they're going to want to see some return on their investment of time and development. I think if we can demonstrate that we're willing to work for and pay for something, then we're more likely to get it, than to just demand things be given away for free.

Yeah that sounds about right, plus It would be nice to be able to buy an account unlock too

kazabok

It would be nice to get the new uniform added to the tailor for free, but I'd pay 550z for it if that's the way it goes.

baddmoonrizin

centersolace wrote: »

Yes, buuuuuuuut there are better ways to do that. :P

I'm open to suggestions.

adverbero wrote: »

Yeah that sounds about right, plus It would be nice to be able to buy an account unlock too

Exactly! As it is now, you have to buy them one character at a time and behind the Fleet Advancement firewall. My suggestion is to make it more available while also preserving something unique for the Fleet Tailor.