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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Bio-molecular weapons use modified borg nanoprobes hence the green. Get over it.

    However, the Borg nanoprobe phasers they used on Voyager in seasons 4 and 5 still retained their Starfleet looking orange beams and pulses.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    amosov78 wrote: »
    However, the Borg nanoprobe phasers they used on Voyager in seasons 4 and 5 still retained their Starfleet looking orange beams and pulses.

    never saw voy use modid borg phasers only torpedo.......... and also if i recall right seems janeway said they where only going to mod torpedo
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  • vilecalamitousvilecalamitous Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Yeah they never modified their phasers. They only modofied 13 torpedoes and 1 high yield torpedo.
  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    never saw voy use modid borg phasers only torpedo.......... and also if i recall right seems janeway said they where only going to mod torpedo

    They are mentioned as having modified their hand phasers with them in the episodes "Prey" in season 4, and "In The Flesh" in season 5. Both of these is when they encounter Species 8472.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Yeah they never modified their phasers. They only modofied 13 torpedoes and 1 high yield torpedo.

    now thinking about seems it was 7of9 who was the one to suggest torpedoes
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    amosov78 wrote: »
    They are mentioned as having modified their hand phasers with them in the episodes "Prey" in season 4, and "In The Flesh" in season 5. Both of these is when they encounter Species 8472.

    dont recall that haved ever been said and if so hand phasers is far from a starship phaser not to say dont mean they used the same thing they did with 8472
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    dont recall that haved ever been said and if so hand phasers is far from a starship phaser the prey is before voy met 7of9 and 8472 as they only met them on the last EP of season 4

    Species 8472 made their first appearance at the end of season 3. They been in a total of four episodes on Voyager:

    Scorpion Part 1
    Scorpion Part 2
    Prey
    In the Flesh
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    amosov78 wrote: »
    Species 8472 made their first appearance at the end of season 3. They been in a total of four episodes on Voyager:

    Scorpion Part 1
    Scorpion Part 2
    Prey
    In the Flesh

    ya i looked and saw what i did wrong ;) but the 5 mins it took you to look all that up already had edited my post
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  • vilecalamitousvilecalamitous Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Janeway only wanted to incapacitate the Undine aboard her ship so they probably didn't have as many nanoprobes to turn the phaser beam green. As for In the Flesh, I'm not sure they even fired the modified hand phasers/rifles. Then again, it's been a while since I watched Voyager.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    edge109 wrote: »
    I would want the undine rep weapons to be gold like the actual undine weapons. The romulan rep weapons look like what the romulans use, the nukara reputation (space) weapons look like what the tholians use, so why not the same for the undine? It's just a thought, feel free to tell me why you agree/disagree.

    Except these aren't Undine weapons we're using, the Undine weapons would be the ones that come from the lockbox. These are special phasers/disruptors that were made to help fight the Undine.

    I know it's kinda off topic, but is anyone kind of upset like me that they made phasers and disruptors but we don't get plasma weapons for Romulans?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    I polled 4813 people today, and they didn't all hate the green weapons. Could I see your polling data that says they do? :)

    Green is canon from voyager. If cryptic made them some other color people'd probably just complain about why they're not canon green.

    by that same logic i polled 8472 people and come up with "undecided" :P.


    anyways, i dont care for the 8472 weapons, they dont exactly add anything spectacular to the game.
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I know it's kinda off topic, but is anyone kind of upset like me that they made phasers and disruptors but we don't get plasma weapons for Romulans?

    Not really since the plasma energy weapons for Romulans were non-canon to begin with. 2 out of my 4 Romulan chars use disruptors and a third one is only using plasma because she's just gotten to 50 and it's what was on her ship by default. Also I don't really want another shade of green for plasma weapons. Two is bad enough.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Not really since the plasma energy weapons for Romulans were non-canon to begin with. 2 out of my 4 Romulan chars use disruptors and a third one is only using plasma because she's just gotten to 50 and it's what was on her ship by default. Also I don't really want another shade of green for plasma weapons. Two is bad enough.

    Umm where does it say Plasma isn't canon? Disruptors are canon for the Romulan Empire...but that doesn't mean they're for the Romulan Republic.

    Romulan Empire /= Romulan Republic
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Umm where does it say Plasma isn't canon? Disruptors are canon for the Romulan Empire...but that doesn't mean they're for the Romulan Republic.

    Romulan Empire /= Romulan Republic

    The Romulan Republic isn't canon either.;) If we see it like this the Empire could use plasma too because we only know that they used disruptors up to Nemesis. That could have changed in the meantime. However we are used to Romulans with disruptors and plasma torpedoes, Feds with phasers/photons/quantums and Klingons with disruptors/photons. The Romulans are the only ones where we don't get canon loadouts as standard and it doesn't make much sense that the Republic uses mostly the same ship designs as the Empire with other weapons.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Not really since the plasma energy weapons for Romulans were non-canon to begin with..


    ¿? lol, romulans always used plasma. And now they are non-canon weapons? lol, what is "cannon" then? hahahahahaha...
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I like green weapons, orange phasers are for the UFP, and I'm an Empire Veteran - I don't use orange guns :P

    Green guns are for baddies, and thats ok ;)
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The Romulan Republic isn't canon either.;) If we see it like this the Empire could use plasma too because we only know that they used disruptors up to Nemesis. That could have changed in the meantime. However we are used to Romulans with disruptors and plasma torpedoes, Feds with phasers/photons/quantums and Klingons with disruptors/photons. The Romulans are the only ones where we don't get canon loadouts as standard and it doesn't make much sense that the Republic uses mostly the same ship designs as the Empire with other weapons.

    Well designing a whole new fleet of ships, especially when rebuilding is kinda hard to do and time consuming. Weapons are much easier and would set them apart from the Empire.
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Janeway only wanted to incapacitate the Undine aboard her ship so they probably didn't have as many nanoprobes to turn the phaser beam green. As for In the Flesh, I'm not sure they even fired the modified hand phasers/rifles. Then again, it's been a while since I watched Voyager.

    Chakotay fires off a shot at one of the Undine Starfleet imposters:

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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I know it's kinda off topic, but is anyone kind of upset like me that they made phasers and disruptors but we don't get plasma weapons for Romulans?

    Frankly, i'm still disappointed that the Romulans don't have their own anti-Borg set.
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    ¿? lol, romulans always used plasma. And now they are non-canon weapons? lol, what is "cannon" then? hahahahahaha...

    Generally, Romulans have been shown to use disruptors (and plasma torpedos).

    Plasma beams [Edit: for Romulans] are a STO invention.
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ferengi and Borg used personal plasma weaponry: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Forced_plasma_beam
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    amosov78 wrote: »
    Ferengi and Borg used personal plasma weaponry: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Forced_plasma_beam

    Fair enough. Post revised. :)
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    I polled 4813 people today, and they didn't all hate the green weapons. Could I see your polling data that says they do? :)

    Green is canon from voyager. If cryptic made them some other color people'd probably just complain about why they're not canon green.

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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    As soemone whos favorite color is green, i hate people who hate green phasers.
  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It looks like a lot of people are getting confused. I'll try and break it down. The new undine rep phasers are green 1 player (the op) doesn't like them, so he believes everyone agrees with him.

    The phasers from the new rep are green because they are bio-molecular, the same as the modified bio-molecular photon torpedos that voyager used a few times against the undine. We are not talking about weapons that come equipped to undine ships, and we are not talking about weather voyager had green phasers (because they were clearly orange). It's about the new phasers being green to match the green girls used in Voyager against the undine. And they weren't disruptor green, they had a bit of a yellow tint added to green. It was closer to plasma color.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I absolutely love disruptors so any green weapons are fine by me. It's the plasma weapons that I can't stand. Romulans using plasma is an absolute joke since we all know canonically speaking that Romulans used disruptors. Anyways, I digress. Please don't pretend to speak on behalf of a majority that doesn't exist OP. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everybody else has to dislike it as well. Tisk tisk!
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  • quintarisquintaris Member Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    We need more phaser colours. If I can mix orange, blue, and green, I'm 3/7ths of the way to a technicolour dreamboat of the same energy type. Pop BFAW and taste the rainbow.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    ghyudt wrote: »
    It looks like a lot of people are getting confused. I'll try and break it down. The new undine rep phasers are green 1 player (the op) doesn't like them, so he believes everyone agrees with him.

    *raises hand*

    I think they look like TRIBBLE and don't like them also. I further find all the "green Voyager torpedo" claptrap to be exactly what Cryptic hopes for- people buying that malarkey rather than "Look how we can do this season on the cheap- "disruptors" and "phasers" that are the same color, right down to cheaping out on ground weapon models- 1 for anything vaguely rifle-like, one for blast assault/miniguns, and one for pistols."

    But to each their own...happy acceptance of mediocrity in games does seem to be a thing these days.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Do they?

    I guess i'm not people then.
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  • quintarisquintaris Member Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    johngazman wrote: »
    Do they?

    I guess i'm not people then.

    Soylent green is people.

    Biomolecular weapons are green.

    Therefore, biomolecular weaponry is people.
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