The rom rep is if you have carriers for the elite scorpions, and all are good for the sponsor tokens if grinding more than a couple toons, but other than that, why go for 5?
It's up to you. Look into them and see if the gear you can get is worth it if not skip them. I only leveled reps where I thought the gear looked useful. The only reason I have leveled Tholian now is it is a lot cheaper in marks.
Most of my toons never bothered to run all the reps. Season 9 hasn't changed that, even though it seems easier now. It's up to you if you want to be the hamster on wheel thinking you're getting somewhere. There's not much in this game you can't beat with common white gear.
The rom rep is if you have carriers for the elite scorpions, and all are good for the sponsor tokens if grinding more than a couple toons, but other than that, why go for 5?
If this was Season 8...I would say you may as well max them all.
Now we are on Season 9...I say don't bother going further than you need to.
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They are not. Only if you want something specific from Tier 5 or the reputation ability.
I did T5 of omega, new reomulus, nukara and dyson in my first char, but that was all. I ended really tired and after that, i realized why the hell im going to do all over again?? its ridiculous. Now i only go for the things i want, and most of the times they are not T5 stuff. And not even that. Since i play for having fun, not for having the best of the best, i can literally forget about some reputations and focus in what i want. Too bad a lot of people cant do this, since they will always want the best of the best, even if in STO a lot of those things are in the end not needed lol.
The T5 of the romulan reputation is TRIBBLE. I only did it cuz i wanted to finish it. But thats all, now in my romulan toon, i will give em plasma build but i am going to reach only T4 with the double exp token. And thats it. Once i have the hyper plasma, and the set, or some items, im done with the romulan reputation.
Another reason is the T5 token, to double the exp you will gain in other toon, but thats all. The dilithium extra project were never worhty. There are A LOT of more ways to gather dilithium and in bigger quantities.
Probably the biggest reason you want to complete a rep to Tier 5 is the bonus stuff for completing it, especially the big Dil bonuses. Granted, Omega's TRIBBLE at 9K. Also, Dyson gives you a Voth BOFF and if you're in the mood for collecting special BOFFs, you don't want to miss out on him.
Well I have maxed rep on the previous reps on all 5 of my characters and my main is working on Undine, once done he will hand out tokens and the alts will do it. Why? Simple... it's not the passives... actives... or even the gear.. it's not even a completionist thing. It's this... it's there then, open and ready to go should I choose to gear with it.
My main will test out the new gear, I always do that, and I will choose what to do with it from there. It's how I handle all new rep trees and I see no reason to change it now (the token and wait on alt is new but since it will double their speed it will make it easier on me).
Dyson is worth it along with Omega and possibly Rom if you use plasmas. I haven't used nukara yet on any of my characters save the +5% hull trait. Currently, I am planning on grinding them all out on a fresh 50 for the Dil payout and the Dyson/Undine ground gear and Omega Borg space set.
They're so easy to complete casually right now that they're worth it. The resource investment is much lower and the daily mission is rewarding enough that if you just casually do one daily for each rep (which is about 15 minutes per day per rep), you can get through this stuff with little to no hassle.
It's kind of fascinating what they did to the grind itself. They made it less susceptible to people grinding the hourlies miission after mission after mission all day long. But made the cost and time investment of the dailies so much ligther that if you work on say one or two of them at a time you can breeze through them without much effort or thought over a couple of weeiks.
So I'd say that currently the are worth grinding to T5 simply because the value of what you invest has been lowered to acceptable levels.
It's now so much more of a "fire and forget" style of rep grind. You do a daily. Make the contributions. And forget about it until tomorrow. Which is very casual player friendly. The increased mark payout also helps casual players as you can even forget to do a mission on a particular day but still have enough marks to contribute.
Yeah, they're all pretty much worth getting to Tier V, so long as the payout at the end, is something you're interested in.
What they're not worth doing is killing yourself doing all 5 everyday across every character you have. Just do a few here and there, focus on the ones you really want, then take a break now-and-then and do the content for a different one. There's yet to be any content in the game that demands you have "teh bestest" gear, most of your success is going to be influenced far more by making sure your BOff's, DOff's, Ship, and Consoles aren't all playing at cross purposes. Once you've gotten a couple to Tier 2 you'll probably have a better idea of where you really want to focus your efforts for a given character, so pursue on from there.
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Well, you probably want to fill out all 4 active slots, I think, just because you can have them, and currently, you will have a mix of space and ground, future reputations might eventually allow you to specialize exclusively.
Then there is the big pay-out at the end, which might also come with a DOFF or BOFF or whatever (not sure if every reputation grants that, Dyson grants a BOFF at least).
And you might get access to new costumes and interestnig set gear. It might be on a case to case basis - you will not be interested in every set on every character. But then, it might be worth it mastering all reps on one character so you can then pick and choose which characters will train which reputations (and give them a sponsorship token for it).
And then - some of the missions and repeatables you can do are fun to do and may also serve as a source of dilithium . (Don't forget that any of those special reputation items, like the Borg Processor or the Voth Implements, can also be turned in just for dilithium.)
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Dyson is worth it along with Omega and possibly Rom if you use plasmas. I haven't used nukara yet on any of my characters save the +5% hull trait. Currently, I am planning on grinding them all out on a fresh 50 for the Dil payout and the Dyson/Undine ground gear and Omega Borg space set.
T5 Nukara is far better than T5 Romulan lol, by far.
Almost everything of the T5 romulan tree is garbaje.
Undine rep?? no thanks, i am not going to keep being used by cryptic. That is what they want, but i will not be fooled!!!! :mad:
The rom rep is if you have carriers for the elite scorpions, and all are good for the sponsor tokens if grinding more than a couple toons, but other than that, why go for 5?
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Same here. Im just getting my main to tier 5 for tokens for other toons. However, since the rep system change I don't see much point. As long as I get 4 space traits, who cares really and it will probably just be in the rep that has a particular item I am looking for.
I'm not even sure if I will grind out 8472 rep, I'll have to look closer at the gear offered. It seems I would need to grind a bit, at least for the new kit system unless some MK XII kits start dropping off trash.
Also with this new season and rep system I'm a little burnt out, especially on my alts. This seems a bit backwards at the start of a new season but I'm kind of bored. I guess I'm just very underwhelmed by this new season.
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And then - some of the missions and repeatables you can do are fun to do and may also serve as a source of dilithium . (Don't forget that any of those special reputation items, like the Borg Processor or the Voth Implements, can also be turned in just for dilithium.)
Can you please name 1 single repeatable mission that is fun ?? because after the first pass on the reputations, i dont think anything of those missions are fun anymore. And once you done with a reputation, i will not keep gathering marks just to do dilithium missions lol. That is the most boring thing to do. There are plenty of ways to gather dilithium and you dont need to stuck on the reputation.
Can you please name 1 single repeatable mission that is fun ?? because after the first pass on the reputations, i dont think anything of those missions are fun anymore. And once you done with a reputation, i will not keep gathering marks just to do dilithium missions lol. That is the most boring thing to do. There are plenty of ways to gather dilithium and you dont need to stuck on the reputation.
I enjoy the new missions, but then again they are new, the vampire mission and a few other random ones like the under ground nukara one
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Only two really, Omega and Romulan. Omega Mk12 gear is still unmatched by the other rep gear, and Romulan weapons are some of the best in game.
Nukara, Dyson and the new Undine reps are very specialized in the gear they offer, though I have not tried Undine gear, so I am assuming the gear is the same and I might be wrong...
Can you please name 1 single repeatable mission that is fun ??
The Shuttle mission is really fun, when not PUGged. Also, CE's still fun. A bit mindless, but I have so much more revenge to get on that mission that it may be another few years before I exhaust the flames of my ire for the Crystaline Entity. I still enjoy NWS, and Fleet Starbase Defense quite a bit.
Only two really, Omega and Romulan. Omega Mk12 gear is still unmatched by the other rep gear, and Romulan weapons are some of the best in game.
With the fix to one of the bonuses, I feel the Dyson set is very competitive for a tanking set on the ships that now receive a lesser 2 pc. bonus from the Omega rep.
Grinding the reputation system beyond the base four to T5 is not worth it. Rep the Omega, Nukara, Romulan, and Dyson optional. The Omega and Romulan are the best. If you like get the Dyson and the Nukara. Go for it.
The rom rep is if you have carriers for the elite scorpions, and all are good for the sponsor tokens if grinding more than a couple toons, but other than that, why go for 5?
Why wouldn't you go for tier 5?
Really, this game has the easiest endgame "grind" of any MMO I've played. And I've played almost all of them (of MMOs you've actually heard of, the only ones I've never played are Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of ********).
And let's be blunt: there isn't much else to do once you hit level 50 anyway. You gather your daily 8K dilithium and then you generate some reputation marks....
I agree. Particularly with the new changes, it's not terribly difficult to hit Tier 5. Just go at your own pace and don't worry about hitting T5 as quickly as possible. It's only as much "work" as you decide it's going to be.
I honestly had no idea how many players were apparently going for T5 solely for the traits.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
They're so easy to complete casually right now that they're worth it. The resource investment is much lower and the daily mission is rewarding enough that if you just casually do one daily for each rep (which is about 15 minutes per day per rep), you can get through this stuff with little to no hassle.
It's kind of fascinating what they did to the grind itself. They made it less susceptible to people grinding the hourlies miission after mission after mission all day long. But made the cost and time investment of the dailies so much ligther that if you work on say one or two of them at a time you can breeze through them without much effort or thought over a couple of weeiks.
So I'd say that currently the are worth grinding to T5 simply because the value of what you invest has been lowered to acceptable levels.
It's now so much more of a "fire and forget" style of rep grind. You do a daily. Make the contributions. And forget about it until tomorrow. Which is very casual player friendly. The increased mark payout also helps casual players as you can even forget to do a mission on a particular day but still have enough marks to contribute.
That sounds great BUT if the person does PVP or Elite stuff. They aren't worth grinding up then the base 4. Since the new reputation system change.
He or she should just do the base 4 weapons, choose the beast buffs then forget about it. No switching or load outs if Cryptic does that. That person would blow away queues, episodes, and or PVE content 100% of the time. Since PVP will have less combat variety. The base sets are good.
Since the Reputation change release, I only really been in PVP and Kerrat. I have not done any one of the cross faction queues or been to the battlezone.
I agree. Particularly with the new changes, it's not terribly difficult to hit Tier 5. Just go at your own pace and don't worry about hitting T5 as quickly as possible. It's only as much "work" as you decide it's going to be.
I honestly had no idea how many players were apparently going for T5 solely for the traits.
I am in two fleets and most of the players worked up the Rep system to gain tha passive skills abilities. With Season 9 most decided not to touch the new Rep or mess with the Undine stuff. A majority of of playing is PVP combat against each other and the heavy combat STF's.
When the Voth came out, I think we all was during the Voth queues and battlezone for months as a group.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
I agree. Particularly with the new changes, it's not terribly difficult to hit Tier 5. Just go at your own pace and don't worry about hitting T5 as quickly as possible. It's only as much "work" as you decide it's going to be.
1000000% this. My advice is to just play, and play your way. If you get there, you get there. If you don't, you don't. Just don't turn the game into a job.
IMO, T5 is worth is just for the dilithium reward if nothing else.
That sounds great BUT if the person does PVP or Elite stuff. They aren't worth grinding up then the base 4. Since the new reputation system change.
He or she should just do the base 4 weapons, choose the beast buffs then forget about it. No switching or load outs if Cryptic does that. That person would blow away queues, episodes, and or PVE content 100% of the time. Since PVP will have less combat variety. The base sets are good.
Since the Reputation change release, I only really been in PVP and Kerrat. I have not done any one of the cross faction queues or been to the battlezone.
Again, the resource and time investment is so casual friendly with these changes.
So it's worth it, because they lowered the intensity of the grind itself. It's really just at a stage now where you do it at a slower pace, but it costs you so much less in time and resources. So you spend 15 minutes doing an Undine or Dyson or Nukara mission on Monday, get enough marks to cover Monday and Tuesday, and just slot the dailies.
It's easier. So much easier. That it's worth it simply because you're logged on and are going to do something anyways.
Again, the resource and time investment is so casual friendly with these changes.
So it's worth it, because they lowered the intensity of the grind itself. It's really just at a stage now where you do it at a slower pace, but it costs you so much less in time and resources. So you spend 15 minutes doing an Undine or Dyson or Nukara mission on Monday, get enough marks to cover Monday and Tuesday, and just slot the dailies.
It's easier. So much easier. That it's worth it simply because you're logged on and are going to do something anyways.
It's not. He or she can spend the time getting dilithium from the Voth zone or any dilithium grinding tactics and start a fleet. Get it to tier 2 shipyard and get weapons that make a significant difference. Frankly, since its' limited to 4/4/4 and abilities would not use it. Why grind something when eventually it will make 0% difference once they put in more reputation systems in game content?
Again, he or she should not waste the time period. Spend 15/20 grindng dilithium from the Voth Zone, ISE, Crystalline, and Nimbus for a personal fleet.
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If this was Season 8...I would say you may as well max them all.
Now we are on Season 9...I say don't bother going further than you need to.
I did T5 of omega, new reomulus, nukara and dyson in my first char, but that was all. I ended really tired and after that, i realized why the hell im going to do all over again?? its ridiculous. Now i only go for the things i want, and most of the times they are not T5 stuff. And not even that. Since i play for having fun, not for having the best of the best, i can literally forget about some reputations and focus in what i want. Too bad a lot of people cant do this, since they will always want the best of the best, even if in STO a lot of those things are in the end not needed lol.
The T5 of the romulan reputation is TRIBBLE. I only did it cuz i wanted to finish it. But thats all, now in my romulan toon, i will give em plasma build but i am going to reach only T4 with the double exp token. And thats it. Once i have the hyper plasma, and the set, or some items, im done with the romulan reputation.
Another reason is the T5 token, to double the exp you will gain in other toon, but thats all. The dilithium extra project were never worhty. There are A LOT of more ways to gather dilithium and in bigger quantities.
My main will test out the new gear, I always do that, and I will choose what to do with it from there. It's how I handle all new rep trees and I see no reason to change it now (the token and wait on alt is new but since it will double their speed it will make it easier on me).
It's kind of fascinating what they did to the grind itself. They made it less susceptible to people grinding the hourlies miission after mission after mission all day long. But made the cost and time investment of the dailies so much ligther that if you work on say one or two of them at a time you can breeze through them without much effort or thought over a couple of weeiks.
So I'd say that currently the are worth grinding to T5 simply because the value of what you invest has been lowered to acceptable levels.
It's now so much more of a "fire and forget" style of rep grind. You do a daily. Make the contributions. And forget about it until tomorrow. Which is very casual player friendly. The increased mark payout also helps casual players as you can even forget to do a mission on a particular day but still have enough marks to contribute.
What they're not worth doing is killing yourself doing all 5 everyday across every character you have. Just do a few here and there, focus on the ones you really want, then take a break now-and-then and do the content for a different one. There's yet to be any content in the game that demands you have "teh bestest" gear, most of your success is going to be influenced far more by making sure your BOff's, DOff's, Ship, and Consoles aren't all playing at cross purposes. Once you've gotten a couple to Tier 2 you'll probably have a better idea of where you really want to focus your efforts for a given character, so pursue on from there.
Then there is the big pay-out at the end, which might also come with a DOFF or BOFF or whatever (not sure if every reputation grants that, Dyson grants a BOFF at least).
And you might get access to new costumes and interestnig set gear. It might be on a case to case basis - you will not be interested in every set on every character. But then, it might be worth it mastering all reps on one character so you can then pick and choose which characters will train which reputations (and give them a sponsorship token for it).
And then - some of the missions and repeatables you can do are fun to do and may also serve as a source of dilithium . (Don't forget that any of those special reputation items, like the Borg Processor or the Voth Implements, can also be turned in just for dilithium.)
T5 Nukara is far better than T5 Romulan lol, by far.
Almost everything of the T5 romulan tree is garbaje.
Undine rep?? no thanks, i am not going to keep being used by cryptic. That is what they want, but i will not be fooled!!!! :mad:
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Same here. Im just getting my main to tier 5 for tokens for other toons. However, since the rep system change I don't see much point. As long as I get 4 space traits, who cares really and it will probably just be in the rep that has a particular item I am looking for.
I'm not even sure if I will grind out 8472 rep, I'll have to look closer at the gear offered. It seems I would need to grind a bit, at least for the new kit system unless some MK XII kits start dropping off trash.
Also with this new season and rep system I'm a little burnt out, especially on my alts. This seems a bit backwards at the start of a new season but I'm kind of bored. I guess I'm just very underwhelmed by this new season.
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Can you please name 1 single repeatable mission that is fun ?? because after the first pass on the reputations, i dont think anything of those missions are fun anymore. And once you done with a reputation, i will not keep gathering marks just to do dilithium missions lol. That is the most boring thing to do. There are plenty of ways to gather dilithium and you dont need to stuck on the reputation.
I enjoy the new missions, but then again they are new, the vampire mission and a few other random ones like the under ground nukara one
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Nukara, Dyson and the new Undine reps are very specialized in the gear they offer, though I have not tried Undine gear, so I am assuming the gear is the same and I might be wrong...
The Shuttle mission is really fun, when not PUGged. Also, CE's still fun. A bit mindless, but I have so much more revenge to get on that mission that it may be another few years before I exhaust the flames of my ire for the Crystaline Entity. I still enjoy NWS, and Fleet Starbase Defense quite a bit.
With the fix to one of the bonuses, I feel the Dyson set is very competitive for a tanking set on the ships that now receive a lesser 2 pc. bonus from the Omega rep.
Then TRIBBLE the rest of it.
Why wouldn't you go for tier 5?
Really, this game has the easiest endgame "grind" of any MMO I've played. And I've played almost all of them (of MMOs you've actually heard of, the only ones I've never played are Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of ********).
And let's be blunt: there isn't much else to do once you hit level 50 anyway. You gather your daily 8K dilithium and then you generate some reputation marks....
Yes, this. I also do not play with dinosaurs so I also used the summer and winter marks for the dinosaur grind.
I agree. Particularly with the new changes, it's not terribly difficult to hit Tier 5. Just go at your own pace and don't worry about hitting T5 as quickly as possible. It's only as much "work" as you decide it's going to be.
I honestly had no idea how many players were apparently going for T5 solely for the traits.
That sounds great BUT if the person does PVP or Elite stuff. They aren't worth grinding up then the base 4. Since the new reputation system change.
He or she should just do the base 4 weapons, choose the beast buffs then forget about it. No switching or load outs if Cryptic does that. That person would blow away queues, episodes, and or PVE content 100% of the time. Since PVP will have less combat variety. The base sets are good.
Since the Reputation change release, I only really been in PVP and Kerrat. I have not done any one of the cross faction queues or been to the battlezone.
I am in two fleets and most of the players worked up the Rep system to gain tha passive skills abilities. With Season 9 most decided not to touch the new Rep or mess with the Undine stuff. A majority of of playing is PVP combat against each other and the heavy combat STF's.
When the Voth came out, I think we all was during the Voth queues and battlezone for months as a group.
Now with the Undine, nothing.
Hm. Different playstyles, I suppose.
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IMO, T5 is worth is just for the dilithium reward if nothing else.
Again, the resource and time investment is so casual friendly with these changes.
So it's worth it, because they lowered the intensity of the grind itself. It's really just at a stage now where you do it at a slower pace, but it costs you so much less in time and resources. So you spend 15 minutes doing an Undine or Dyson or Nukara mission on Monday, get enough marks to cover Monday and Tuesday, and just slot the dailies.
It's easier. So much easier. That it's worth it simply because you're logged on and are going to do something anyways.
It's not. He or she can spend the time getting dilithium from the Voth zone or any dilithium grinding tactics and start a fleet. Get it to tier 2 shipyard and get weapons that make a significant difference. Frankly, since its' limited to 4/4/4 and abilities would not use it. Why grind something when eventually it will make 0% difference once they put in more reputation systems in game content?
Again, he or she should not waste the time period. Spend 15/20 grindng dilithium from the Voth Zone, ISE, Crystalline, and Nimbus for a personal fleet.