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realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
edited April 2014 in PvP Gameplay
the tachyon detection field gives too much boost and butthurt to me when used

please nerf this asap i beg of ye

(or give it to the kdf too)

dammmn feds
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  • ibuyevryshipibuyevryship Member Posts: 280
    edited April 2014
    KDF difinitivly need TDF !!!!!!!!
  • blahhdreyblahhdrey Member Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    TDF is going to give me an ulcer.

    We will give the Enhanced Induction Coils in trade.

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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Lol. I remember when the complaint was that the TDF as useless garbage of a console. Heck, its useless nature as once used to argue why the feds needed some KDF consoles to make up for it.
    I'm fine with the feds having the best cloak detection.
    In fact since the feds have the best cloak detection it adds wieght as to why they are fine in their current level of cloaking ability factionwise.
    If that changes then we can talk about the acquisition,imo. Otherwise I vote no.
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  • colonelkiracolonelkira Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I would say yes, KDF deserves TDF console. Why? Feds have better cloak detection and same cloak level as KDF. Same cloak level? Yes, because battlecloaking romulans are the issue. BOP's can battle cloak, that's true. But in fact Warbirds, which are crossfaction, widely replaced those. And we all know why. So for achieving balance, please give TDF to KDF, so they can detect Fed-Roms as good as Feds do with KDF-Roms.

    PS: Yes AA can help with cloak detection, but cloakers have to get very close to them, so at this point they've already got detected by dedicated snoopers.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    In about a week there will be only cross faction pvp Qs if I'm not mistaken. So this will be kind of a non issue then...
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Momma said Klingon tears are diamonds and please cry more
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  • wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited April 2014
    Klinguns tears also fuel my antimatter engines, so yeah, cry moar!:D

    THat explains why your ships are so slow. :eek:
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    If Feds get AA in exchange I am not sure sure getting TDF for KDF is a good idea. I think out of all the bad consoles KDF got before maybe the Feds should get something other then AA for TDF like magnometric generator, shield destabilizer, enhanced induction coil, or barrier field.

    If that won't happen I would rather see the ionized gas sensor improved, it rarely works now as it is very slow and gives off a loud noise that warns people. It needs its speed and tracking improved and lose the beeping.
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  • jjdezjjdez Member Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The worst is TDF on a Fedulan T'Varo. At least with other ships they have to decloak to use it or simply don't have a cloak and therefore can be seen giving cloakers a small chance to get the 30+ kilometers away required... Having the ability to be detected from 28k away and promptly destroyed while still cloaked, and with no counter available at all, is kind of ridiculous.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Honestly this console is fine ... as long as people are not console swapping. Cryptic needs to fix that exploit.
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  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Yeah, vapers getting isocharge, impulse burst every alpha, or set bonuses (apart from Proton) is silly as well.
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  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Lol. I remember when the complaint was that the TDF as useless garbage of a console. Heck, its useless nature as once used to argue why the feds needed some KDF consoles to make up for it.
    I'm fine with the feds having the best cloak detection.
    In fact since the feds have the best cloak detection it adds wieght as to why they are fine in their current level of cloaking ability factionwise.
    If that changes then we can talk about the acquisition,imo.
    Otherwise I vote no.

    I guess you didn't get the memo about Romulans.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Lol. I remember when the complaint was that the TDF as useless garbage of a console.

    Yep, it's been available to Feds to run on any boat for over two years. Things have changed though over the years. Running TDF today is not the same as it was running TDF going back two years...

    Outside of the A2B crowd, there's more Aux available because there's simply more power available now than there has been over the years.

    Sub/Infil/Pirate no longer stack, so Stealth Values are not as high as they were. Folks lost 225-375 Stealth Value, that's 4.5-7.5km of Stealth Distance.

    EPtA added 3km, 4km, and 5km Perception Distance buffs...while the pseudo corresponding +Stealth buffs have never worked.

    There's the Jem Mk XII and Rom Mk XII Deflectors providing their buffs to Stealth Detection, while the buffs to Stealth from the Rem/Rom Deflectors does not work.

    Etc, etc, etc...

    Yep, Stealth Detection buffed...Stealth nerfed...puts the TDF in a better place. Heck, you've got its CD reduced by 2pc MACO and the [SciCdr] Deflector (perhaps if you're a Sci Captain and running lots of other Sci goodies...thus preferring that to the Jem or Rom Deflectors). And yeah, that's before the console swapping shenanigans that are going on with it...
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'd take the opposite tack: there's more cloakers now, and battlecloakers who can leave a fight in the middle, so detection is more necessary.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'd take the opposite tack: there's more cloakers now, and battlecloakers who can leave a fight in the middle, so detection is more necessary.

    But only for one side? As has been pointed out, Feds have Romulans as well...
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Lol. I remember when the complaint was that the TDF as useless garbage of a console. Heck, its useless nature as once used to argue why the feds needed some KDF consoles to make up for it.
    I'm fine with the feds having the best cloak detection.
    In fact since the feds have the best cloak detection it adds wieght as to why they are fine in their current level of cloaking ability factionwise.
    If that changes then we can talk about the acquisition,imo. Otherwise I vote no.

    Agreed.

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    edalgo wrote: »
    Or a klink that just switches to a BoP?

    Heh, good one!
    edalgo wrote: »
    Where's my sarcastic friends?

    Wait, you weren't being sarcastic with that...?

    You actually think a BoP = Warbird? You think the KDF haven't rerolled Roms as well?

    It's basically the following...

    Roms with TDF vs. Roms without TDF.

    It's an issue.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    edalgo wrote: »
    Shoulda chosen the OP side to the schwartz!

    Well, some of us preferred there being some kind of challenge in the game...
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    edalgo wrote: »
    Downside of the schwartz... Plz don't change my quotes

    Outside of snipping quotes to truncate them, I don't change them. If somebody says something blatantly wrong, I'll type it out in the reply like I did here.
    edalgo wrote: »
    Upside of the schwartz... Plz don't change my quotes

    I see what you did there. Quick edit traps won't work... /sigh

    Though I guess this one did...
    edalgo wrote: »
    Shoulda chosen the UP side to the schwartz!

    ...so as I said originally in this post, if something somebody says is blatantly wrong - I'll type it out in the reply. The Feds being the UP side is blatantly wrong.
  • ilhanskilhansk Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Yes,

    we want more of this!!!!!! ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOfQvjP-gs

    Nerf Cloak Detection.

    Buff Vapers!!!!!!!

    lol

    /sarcasm
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