Yup... Had they succeeded, it would have solved the issue, as leaderless Jem'Hadar and Vorta would have been considerably easier to negotiate and deal with...
Considering that Jem'Hadar tend to commit ritual suicide if they allow a Founder to die ("The Ship"), this isn't actually a bad theory. The Vorta, on the other hand...
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Considering that Jem'Hadar tend to commit ritual suicide if they allow a Founder to die ("The Ship"), this isn't actually a bad theory. The Vorta, on the other hand...
Equally engineered to revere the Founders, and while definitely intelligent and manipulative, strictly middle-management, rather than the brains behind operations :cool:
And how would a devout religious group in the real world react, if you could demonstrate that you had just killed God(s)? I don't know that taking out the Founders would have made the Vorta that much easier to get along with...
I mean, sending *checks Cryptic graphic* millions and millions of Captains to the same spot in space and time with the same orders and the same holoemitter that causes them to experience the same angry Klingons?
(more seriously, yeah, that was more Drake f*cking up than Drake being evil).
Welll... I just figured that there was a large enough variation that Drake didn't know exactly what time you'd arrive.... that and expecting him to know the status of the various houses in TOS era is a bit much. You'd just as likely end up with something like the that House of Duras dagger from Firstborn. In case peeps don't remember, the dagger came from the early 25th century, and the crest reflected a timeline where Ja'rod was leader of the House. Which was immediately recognizable as wrong to anyone in TNG era who knew what the crest looked like in that time.
And how would a devout religious group in the real world react, if you could demonstrate that you had just killed God(s)? I don't know that taking out the Founders would have made the Vorta that much easier to get along with...
Interesting suggestion... :cool: I don't see the Vorta having it in them to go all extremist and screaming "Victory is Life!!!" with tricobalt waistcoats strapped on
One thing I should note with my own take on Drake--yes, I know it's pure headcanon but it is intensely personal between Alexei Ivanovich and Drake. Drake didn't just send them back with a bad holoemitter (that frankly SHOULD have been publicly available material gleaned while the Feds and Klinks were at peace). He deliberately threw an Earth-raised Devidian into combat against his own species knowing or at least having to strongly suspect the Devidians would flip their sh*t when they got a look at him, and unnecessarily escalate the situation and cost lives that did not need to be extinguished because of that escalation. He even pulled their ship back forward in time without giving them a chance to check for boarding parties while they were in space where it was particularly easy to get a read on them.
So for those reasons I would greatly enjoy a mission where I could off Franklin Drake and make it stick.
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Interesting suggestion... :cool: I don't see the Vorta having it in them to go all extremist and screaming "Victory is Life!!!" with tricobalt waistcoats strapped on
I dunno.... there was one who did a pretty good recreation of a carbomb in a shuttle... but... that bomb was designed to blow up the Bajoran sun....
Willing - Yes, if ordered to do so. Capable of that action of their own volition... Not so sure...
I'm reminded of "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" where Weyoun 7 basically hid information from Jem'Hadar ships sent to kill Weyoun 6 (along with the female changeling), because he knew the Jems would disobey orders and break off if they knew they would also kill Odo. Although I don't recall off-hand how much prompting it took from Damar to get him to do this.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I'm reminded of "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" where Weyoun 7 basically hid information from Jem'Hadar ships sent to kill Weyoun 6 (along with the female changeling), because he knew the Jems would disobey orders and break off if they knew they would also kill Odo. Although I don't recall off-hand how much prompting it took from Damar to get him to do this.
That's still a bit of a stretch from being fanatical enough to go extremist against the Federarion if they were to completely wipe out the Founders, and the Weyoun's were always a bit 'glitchy'
That's still a bit of a stretch from being fanatical enough to go extremist against the Federarion if they were to completely wipe out the Founders, and the Weyoun's were always a bit 'glitchy'
Vorta are extremely intelligent, and I really don't see them as the kind of race who'd just sit around and do nothing if the founders were destroyed.
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Considering that Jem'Hadar tend to commit ritual suicide if they allow a Founder to die ("The Ship"), this isn't actually a bad theory. The Vorta, on the other hand...
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Interesting suggestion... :cool: I don't see the Vorta having it in them to go all extremist and screaming "Victory is Life!!!" with tricobalt waistcoats strapped on
So for those reasons I would greatly enjoy a mission where I could off Franklin Drake and make it stick.
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Er... that was a Founder, not a Vorta...
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I'm reminded of "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" where Weyoun 7 basically hid information from Jem'Hadar ships sent to kill Weyoun 6 (along with the female changeling), because he knew the Jems would disobey orders and break off if they knew they would also kill Odo. Although I don't recall off-hand how much prompting it took from Damar to get him to do this.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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That's still a bit of a stretch from being fanatical enough to go extremist against the Federarion if they were to completely wipe out the Founders, and the Weyoun's were always a bit 'glitchy'
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