Nice touch on the klingon side if it is not to much to ask jam jams could you consider upgrading the Defiant classes, because I believe a lot of Feds who are flying these ships still asked to integrate the cloak console and a battle cloak, also what we would love is a bit more hit points to the refit and the fleet version of the defiant classes.
Defiant users may set their thoughts here...
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"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
I use my defiant, and I say no to it as well. Besides, KDF stuff needs to remain unique to the faction, they're feature starved as it is. Makes no sense to steal a homeless guy's food as it were (no disrespect to the KDF btw).
Nice touch on the klingon side if it is not to much to ask jam jams could you consider upgrading the Defiant classes, because I believe a lot of Feds who are flying these ships still asked to integrate the cloak console and a battle cloak, also what we would love is a bit more power to the refit and the fleet version of the defiant classes.
Defiant users may set their thoughts here...
LOL, if they did that so many KDF would be in an uproar except I've gotten to the point where if they did let defiant have a battle cloak I wouldn't care. Although you have to admit that its funny especially if you ever watch first contact and you see that the defiant is a little bit larger than a bop(and a spec of dust in size compared to the enterprise-e lol) but technically a raider. Then you look at STO and the scaleing is way off and they call it a destroyer basically.
As far as the fire power lol. Fleet defiant gets 5 tactical consoles where as the NO KDF ship has 5 tactical consoles and I don't count the bortasqu' unless they give the defiant the same turn rate as that ship lol. What you should be asking yourself is why they haven't taken away the 5th tactical console to balance it between the raptors since they have no plans on ever giving the KDF a 5 tactical console raptor or bop which KDF ships should be a bit more stronger offensively than the federation due to its an organization based on peace and exploration and not a war machine like the Klingon Empire
I use my defiant, and I say no to it as well. Besides, KDF stuff needs to remain unique to the faction, they're feature starved as it is. Makes no sense to steal a homeless guy's food as it were (no disrespect to the KDF btw).
You are not flying a defiant sir. your just trying to BS the tread...
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"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
LOL, if they did that so many KDF would be in an uproar except I've gotten to the point where if they did let defiant have a battle cloak I wouldn't care. Although you have to admit that its funny especially if you ever watch first contact and you see that the defiant is a little bit larger than a bop(and a spec of dust in size compared to the enterprise-e lol) but technically a raider. Then you look at STO and the scaleing is way off and they call it a destroyer basically.
As far as the fire power lol. Fleet defiant gets 5 tactical consoles where as the NO KDF ship has 5 tactical consoles and I don't count the bortasqu' unless they give the defiant the same turn rate as that ship lol. What you should be asking yourself is why they haven't taken away the 5th tactical console to balance it between the raptors since they have no plans on ever giving the KDF a 5 tactical console raptor or bop which KDF ships should be a bit more stronger offensively than the federation due to its an organization based on peace and exploration and not a war machine like the Klingon Empire
Sorry I see my error now I ment bit more hitpoints on the defiant
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"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
You are not flying a defiant sir. your just trying to BS the tread...
LOL... funny part is the person you are basically asking has no control over what happens with ships the guy you are referring to just makes them. He makes really good looking ships but in the end he hands it over to someone who has the say so lol.
How the heck I would know who is doing what sorry to offend you...
Offend me? Meh, I just asked a simple question...
But you know, given that the blog was written by a certain somebody - it's just curious that it wasn't addressed to that certain somebody. It's also kind of curious that you posted this new thread instead of posting in the blog thread. It's also kind of curious that you posted it in General Discussion rather than in Builds, Mechanics and Systems.
Hrmm, so maybe it did offend me on some subconscious level...
Needless new thread posted in the wrong area of the forums while asking the wrong person at Cryptic to do something...
...hrmm, maybe it did offend me on some subconscious level.
LOL... funny part is the person you are basically asking has no control over what happens with ships the guy you are referring to just makes them. He makes really good looking ships but in the end he hands it over to someone who has the say so lol.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Zeux is saying that JamJamz draws the ship and makes it look pretty. Al Rivera, Borticus, and the other designers are the ones you determine what equipment and stats it has.
An analogy would be: You're essentially asking the painting guy to add more electrical sockets to your room.
Member since November 2009... I think. (UFP) Ragnar
HELL NO. The Defiant is not hurting in any fashion for not having Battle Cloak or more HP.
It is still an excellent decloak alpha strike vessel with very good survival and solid punch to go with its high turn and speed.
Sorry I see my error now I ment bit more hitpoints on the defiant
You do know with the same logic they used on bops in the past that if you wanted it more canon and give it a battle cloak that they would reduce the hitpoints instead of decrease them on the defiant. In which the defiant in the game is nothing like the one in the DS9 series/seen in first contact as well. Basically it was a tiny bit larger than a bird of prey but in STO they made it larger and gave it more hull health than it would have if it had a battle cloak.
Zeux is saying that JamJamz draws the ship and makes it look pretty. Al Rivera, Borticus, and the other designers are the ones you determine what equipment and stats it has.
An analogy would be: You're essentially asking the painting guy to add more electrical sockets to your room.
Yep also like going to mcdonalds and asking for pepperoni lovers pizza.
Thread in general discussion: "The summer migrations of the Flamengo"
OP: So guys, I just watched a documentary on the Nature Channel about Flamengo migations and it seems those birds usually fly XXXX miles during their migrations. Could a human walk such a distance in that time, what do you think?
Fed. players: Ya, those poor birds fly XXXX miles and are tired as hell, that's why the Federation needs battlecloak in STO!
You do know with the same logic they used on bops in the past that if you wanted it more canon and give it a battle cloak that they would reduce the hitpoints instead of decrease them on the defiant. In which the defiant in the game is nothing like the one in the DS9 series/seen in first contact as well. Basically it was a tiny bit larger than a bird of prey but in STO they made it larger and gave it more hull health than it would have if it had a battle cloak.
Yep also like going to mcdonalds and asking for pepperoni lovers pizza.
With all due respect Zeux, the show and movies don't have a consistent size for the Defiant ever. I'm using http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm as a reference of course. My favorite discontinuity for the Defiant is how it's massive during the DS9 intro and then smaller than a Captain's Yacht when the Ent-E flew over it in First Contact.
Also... I won't put it past McDonalds to one day start having Pizza on it's menu >_>.
Member since November 2009... I think. (UFP) Ragnar
With all due respect Zeux, the show and movies don't have a consistent size for the Defiant ever. I'm using http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm as a reference of course. My favorite discontinuity for the Defiant is how it's massive during the DS9 intro and then smaller than a Captain's Yacht when the Ent-E flew over it in First Contact.
Also... I won't put it past McDonalds to one day start having Pizza on it's menu >_>.
They had pizza once and it was good.
NERF CANNONS - THEY NEED A 50% NERF
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
Need to balance Defiant to be so OP! Nerf the hull, take away tac console & aft weapon!
I might be ok with the Defiant having a battle Cloak if Cryptic were to take away 2 Tactical Console slots, add one Engineering Console Slot, remove one Aft Weapon slot and reduce its hull by about 15% :rolleyes:
Thread in general discussion: "The summer migrations of the Flamengo"
OP: So guys, I just watched a documentary on the Nature Channel about Flamengo migations and it seems those birds usually fly XXXX miles during their migrations. Could a human walk such a distance in that time, what do you think?
Fed. players: Ya, those poor birds fly XXXX miles and are tired as hell, that's why the Federation needs battlecloak in STO!
I might be ok with the Defiant having a battle Cloak if Cryptic were to take away 2 Tactical Console slots, add one Engineering Console Slot, remove one Aft Weapon slot and reduce its hull by about 15% :rolleyes:
Actually, if the Defiant were an exact copy of the Hegh'ta, I'd be all over that in an instant.
Of course, that would never happen, and it would probably confuse the heck out of a lot of people because WTF do you do with a Hegh'ta? 3/3/3?!
Nice touch on the klingon side if it is not to much to ask jam jams could you consider upgrading the Defiant classes, because I believe a lot of Feds who are flying these ships still asked to integrate the cloak console and a battle cloak, also what we would love is a bit more hit points to the refit and the fleet version of the defiant classes.
Defiant users may set their thoughts here...
Problem is that the Defiant isn't a raider, it's still seen as a full blown escort so it's a different type of ship. I'm not against a little buff for the Defiant like a bit more hull or anything like that mind you, but the Raider buff should be just that, a raider only buff.
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http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
How the heck I would know who is doing what sorry to offend you...
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
LOL, if they did that so many KDF would be in an uproar except I've gotten to the point where if they did let defiant have a battle cloak I wouldn't care. Although you have to admit that its funny especially if you ever watch first contact and you see that the defiant is a little bit larger than a bop(and a spec of dust in size compared to the enterprise-e lol) but technically a raider. Then you look at STO and the scaleing is way off and they call it a destroyer basically.
As far as the fire power lol. Fleet defiant gets 5 tactical consoles where as the NO KDF ship has 5 tactical consoles and I don't count the bortasqu' unless they give the defiant the same turn rate as that ship lol. What you should be asking yourself is why they haven't taken away the 5th tactical console to balance it between the raptors since they have no plans on ever giving the KDF a 5 tactical console raptor or bop which KDF ships should be a bit more stronger offensively than the federation due to its an organization based on peace and exploration and not a war machine like the Klingon Empire
You are not flying a defiant sir. your just trying to BS the tread...
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Sorry I see my error now I ment bit more hitpoints on the defiant
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
LOL... funny part is the person you are basically asking has no control over what happens with ships the guy you are referring to just makes them. He makes really good looking ships but in the end he hands it over to someone who has the say so lol.
Offend me? Meh, I just asked a simple question...
But you know, given that the blog was written by a certain somebody - it's just curious that it wasn't addressed to that certain somebody. It's also kind of curious that you posted this new thread instead of posting in the blog thread. It's also kind of curious that you posted it in General Discussion rather than in Builds, Mechanics and Systems.
Hrmm, so maybe it did offend me on some subconscious level...
Needless new thread posted in the wrong area of the forums while asking the wrong person at Cryptic to do something...
...hrmm, maybe it did offend me on some subconscious level.
But it was still just a simple question.
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Zeux is saying that JamJamz draws the ship and makes it look pretty. Al Rivera, Borticus, and the other designers are the ones you determine what equipment and stats it has.
An analogy would be: You're essentially asking the painting guy to add more electrical sockets to your room.
(UFP) Ragnar
Ad hominem, your argument holds no weight.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
It is still an excellent decloak alpha strike vessel with very good survival and solid punch to go with its high turn and speed.
R.I.P
You do know with the same logic they used on bops in the past that if you wanted it more canon and give it a battle cloak that they would reduce the hitpoints instead of decrease them on the defiant. In which the defiant in the game is nothing like the one in the DS9 series/seen in first contact as well. Basically it was a tiny bit larger than a bird of prey but in STO they made it larger and gave it more hull health than it would have if it had a battle cloak.
Yep also like going to mcdonalds and asking for pepperoni lovers pizza.
I have seen that happen...twice.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Thread in general discussion: "The summer migrations of the Flamengo"
OP: So guys, I just watched a documentary on the Nature Channel about Flamengo migations and it seems those birds usually fly XXXX miles during their migrations. Could a human walk such a distance in that time, what do you think?
Fed. players: Ya, those poor birds fly XXXX miles and are tired as hell, that's why the Federation needs battlecloak in STO!
With all due respect Zeux, the show and movies don't have a consistent size for the Defiant ever. I'm using http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm as a reference of course. My favorite discontinuity for the Defiant is how it's massive during the DS9 intro and then smaller than a Captain's Yacht when the Ent-E flew over it in First Contact.
Also... I won't put it past McDonalds to one day start having Pizza on it's menu >_>.
(UFP) Ragnar
Need to balance Defiant to be so OP! Nerf the hull, take away tac console & aft weapon!
IKS Korrasami (Fleet B'rel Bird of Prey Retrofit T5-U)
They had pizza once and it was good.
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
I might be ok with the Defiant having a battle Cloak if Cryptic were to take away 2 Tactical Console slots, add one Engineering Console Slot, remove one Aft Weapon slot and reduce its hull by about 15% :rolleyes:
Oh, what is that? You don't want to make any trade offs? Well too bad. The Defiant is a great ship as it is. L2P.
Edit: errab beat me to it
The enemy's scoreboard, but still
This.
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this is so true its sad...
Actually, if the Defiant were an exact copy of the Hegh'ta, I'd be all over that in an instant.
Of course, that would never happen, and it would probably confuse the heck out of a lot of people because WTF do you do with a Hegh'ta? 3/3/3?!
IKS Korrasami (Fleet B'rel Bird of Prey Retrofit T5-U)
The only thing that should be buffed about the Defiant, is the shield modifier on the fleet version, that has been gimped since the ship's release.
"Let them eat static!"
But its not a Raider either. You only need one Defiant
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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Problem is that the Defiant isn't a raider, it's still seen as a full blown escort so it's a different type of ship. I'm not against a little buff for the Defiant like a bit more hull or anything like that mind you, but the Raider buff should be just that, a raider only buff.
Devil's advocate time