Just as the title says. Just wondering, but it would be nice so that any type of build could work on that style of ship, course then Cryptic might have to make them all that way cuz everyone would probably buy it.
Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis.
Also don't the KDF BoP ships have a universal commander slot?
Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.
Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.
Sounds a bit reclusive...
We have non-lockbox, non-zen ships with Universal Commander slots - Klingon Bird of Preys.
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What's your point?
At no point in your opening post did you mention you want a Fed-only or Rom-only ship with Commander Uni.
Nor in any of your following posts.
Are we supposed to guess what you actually mean?
Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
I have a KDF character, and I don't wanna fly a squishy BoP on it. I'm not the only person who thinks KDF is lacking in many departments so I'm not going to get into that. I apologize for the bad title, it should have said "Will we ever get *MORE* ships with a Universal Commander slot?"
Honestly every ship in this game should be configured like the BoP because I should be able to choose my senior staff, but that's a different rant, and an often seen rant.
So I've corrected myself on the title, and I'll clarify that I want all factions to see more ships with Universal Commander slots. I'm not sure if I missed or overlooked anything else, buit I am sure that the denizens of this forum will be quick to point it out
Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
So basically the answer to the thread's title is "We already have them, but you won't ever get one." :P
Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.
Dunno about that. I can tank and deal massive damage with that thing. I love it.
Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
I know exactly what you mean. I keep hoping that people will create giant boats on the ocean that can launch vehicles into the sky, but I refuse to consider aircraft carriers exist because I don't personally own several billion dollars.
Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis.
you forgot the 6 hangar bays with Super-Elite Drone ships that have BFAW 5 and APB 6
I know exactly what you mean. I keep hoping that people will create giant boats on the ocean that can launch vehicles into the sky, but I refuse to consider aircraft carriers exist because I don't personally own several billion dollars.
I doubt that we will see many ships outside of the examples listed here, and most likely they will not release few, if any more in the future.
Maybe we will see them again, but I doubt it will be often.
That said, having a Universal Cmdr slot is very powerful, more than most think, there's a reason why the Plesh Brek wasn't giving a full uni seating, even the devs (for all their faults) are still understanding how potent that can be. Seriously, it lets you do ANYTHING you want with that spot. Having multiple slots or even the Cmdr be universal is pretty huge honestly.
It's a big thing to have a uni cmdr, it really is.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
No less constructive than when you based what you're willing to believe exists on whether you'd buy it or not.
...or is this one of those things where when someone else does it it's absurd, until you do the exact same thing and claim "But that's different!1!!" because it's you doing it?
Dunno about that. I can tank and deal massive damage with that thing. I love it.
Yeah, well I once saw a guy in a PVP do the same thing with his Tal'Shiar cruiser. All five of us were beating on his TRIBBLE at once and it took him like five minutes to die.
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I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
That said, having a Universal Cmdr slot is very powerful, more than most think, there's a reason why the Plesh Brek wasn't giving a full uni seating, even the devs (for all their faults) are still understanding how potent that can be. Seriously, it lets you do ANYTHING you want with that spot. Having multiple slots or even the Cmdr be universal is pretty huge honestly.
It's not really that powerful. While it's true, you could do anything you'd like with it, your choices are still constrained to things that already exist. As I cannot think of any non-absurd layout that has not already been done on a ship, all Universal slots enable you to do is emulate a ship that already exists.
Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
Then you have not been playing at time(s) when these ships were available in abundance in exchange for a reasonable price. Tuffli was running for 12 million, the least price I have seen for that ship ever. See the prices now.
Sometimes, you just gotta work for your target man.
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It's not really that powerful. While it's true, you could do anything you'd like with it, your choices are still constrained to things that already exist. As I cannot think of any non-absurd layout that has not already been done on a ship, all Universal slots enable you to do is emulate a ship that already exists.
The biggest draw, I think, would be putting something on a maneuverable ship that is only available on a less maneuverable ship.
The opposite way seems suboptimal (putting something on a less maneuverable shpi that a more maneuverable ship could do. A Cruiser with an Escort selection of powers would offer no real advantage over an Escort, even if it had more hull. I suppose the only value could be a better beam cruiser, but I suspect the Lt.Cmdr Tac battlecruisers and what not already suffice here.)
And, well, that has already been done on BOPs. And the only interesting ones I think where Science/Tactical power mixes, since you don't need the BOP maneuverability and low hull for engineering healers.
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I don't want to be rude, but this is a perfect example of "why we can't have nice things".
OP is asking for a universal commander ship which is, aside from the lottery ships, a thing exclusively reserved for KDF raiders. But instead of playing one of those it ust creates demands for "I want that on my fed toon on a cool ship". It's the same with carriers, cloaking devices and so on. Why is it so hard to accept that certain things are just not available to everyone in a game of two factions? Why the constant demand for absolute uniformity?
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Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis.
Well heck why your feeling generous, how's about +15 to all subs? :P:D
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Why is it so hard to accept that certain things are just not available to everyone in a game of two factions? Why the constant demand for absolute uniformity?
Because they are....special people?
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Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
That is why you don't gamble. Instead, you need to sell the keys for Energy Credits. Keys usually will average about 1.7 million, but I have sold some for 2.5 million on occasion. So they are great money. As for buying ships, here is the arithmetic.
* The Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser costs 800 Lobi.
* With 4 Lobi per box opened, 800 Lobi is 200 keys.
* Keys cost 125 Zen each.
* 200 keys is the equal to 180 or $250, which is the cost of a Lifetime Subscription.
* So your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you a Lifetime Subscription.
* Now you look on the Exchange, where you find the Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser is 100 million.
* Depending on the day, 50-53 keys sold will get you that 100 million, with some left over for duty officers.
* Your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you 48 or $66.25.
Moral of the story? Always go the keys to EC route.
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and no, it didn't invalidate all the other ships.
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I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
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Also don't the KDF BoP ships have a universal commander slot?
Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.
Sounds a bit reclusive...
We have non-lockbox, non-zen ships with Universal Commander slots - Klingon Bird of Preys.
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
What's your point?
At no point in your opening post did you mention you want a Fed-only or Rom-only ship with Commander Uni.
Nor in any of your following posts.
Are we supposed to guess what you actually mean?
I like that mindset but...
...well may be its time for you to join the right side^^
Honestly every ship in this game should be configured like the BoP because I should be able to choose my senior staff, but that's a different rant, and an often seen rant.
So I've corrected myself on the title, and I'll clarify that I want all factions to see more ships with Universal Commander slots. I'm not sure if I missed or overlooked anything else, buit I am sure that the denizens of this forum will be quick to point it out
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
So basically the answer to the thread's title is "We already have them, but you won't ever get one." :P
Dunno about that. I can tank and deal massive damage with that thing. I love it.
I know exactly what you mean. I keep hoping that people will create giant boats on the ocean that can launch vehicles into the sky, but I refuse to consider aircraft carriers exist because I don't personally own several billion dollars.
you forgot the 6 hangar bays with Super-Elite Drone ships that have BFAW 5 and APB 6
thank you for that, very constructive.
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
Maybe we will see them again, but I doubt it will be often.
That said, having a Universal Cmdr slot is very powerful, more than most think, there's a reason why the Plesh Brek wasn't giving a full uni seating, even the devs (for all their faults) are still understanding how potent that can be. Seriously, it lets you do ANYTHING you want with that spot. Having multiple slots or even the Cmdr be universal is pretty huge honestly.
It's a big thing to have a uni cmdr, it really is.
No less constructive than when you based what you're willing to believe exists on whether you'd buy it or not.
...or is this one of those things where when someone else does it it's absurd, until you do the exact same thing and claim "But that's different!1!!" because it's you doing it?
Yeah, well I once saw a guy in a PVP do the same thing with his Tal'Shiar cruiser. All five of us were beating on his TRIBBLE at once and it took him like five minutes to die.
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Yes, same as any other Bird of Prey.
Then you have not been playing at time(s) when these ships were available in abundance in exchange for a reasonable price. Tuffli was running for 12 million, the least price I have seen for that ship ever. See the prices now.
Sometimes, you just gotta work for your target man.
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The biggest draw, I think, would be putting something on a maneuverable ship that is only available on a less maneuverable ship.
The opposite way seems suboptimal (putting something on a less maneuverable shpi that a more maneuverable ship could do. A Cruiser with an Escort selection of powers would offer no real advantage over an Escort, even if it had more hull. I suppose the only value could be a better beam cruiser, but I suspect the Lt.Cmdr Tac battlecruisers and what not already suffice here.)
And, well, that has already been done on BOPs. And the only interesting ones I think where Science/Tactical power mixes, since you don't need the BOP maneuverability and low hull for engineering healers.
OP is asking for a universal commander ship which is, aside from the lottery ships, a thing exclusively reserved for KDF raiders. But instead of playing one of those it ust creates demands for "I want that on my fed toon on a cool ship". It's the same with carriers, cloaking devices and so on. Why is it so hard to accept that certain things are just not available to everyone in a game of two factions? Why the constant demand for absolute uniformity?
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Well heck why your feeling generous, how's about +15 to all subs? :P:D
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Because they are....special people?
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* The Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser costs 800 Lobi.
* With 4 Lobi per box opened, 800 Lobi is 200 keys.
* Keys cost 125 Zen each.
* 200 keys is the equal to 180 or $250, which is the cost of a Lifetime Subscription.
* So your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you a Lifetime Subscription.
* Now you look on the Exchange, where you find the Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser is 100 million.
* Depending on the day, 50-53 keys sold will get you that 100 million, with some left over for duty officers.
* Your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you 48 or $66.25.
Moral of the story? Always go the keys to EC route.
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