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Will we ever get a ship with a Universal Commander slot?

tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
Just as the title says. Just wondering, but it would be nice so that any type of build could work on that style of ship, course then Cryptic might have to make them all that way cuz everyone would probably buy it.
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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I think they are reserving that for when they raise the level cap.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I've got a better question: why demand what already exists?

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tal_Shiar_Adapted_Battle_Cruiser

    and no, it didn't invalidate all the other ships.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Tal Shiar Adapted Battlecruiser has a Universal Commander slot on it.
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  • tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TREQGl54BU8&feature=endscreen
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  • ksathra2ksathra2 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Also don't forget about this ship.

    Tholian Recluse Carrier


    Also don't the KDF BoP ships have a universal commander slot?
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis. :D
  • redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    ksathra2 wrote: »
    Also don't forget about this ship.

    Tholian Recluse Carrier


    Also don't the KDF BoP ships have a universal commander slot?


    Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.

    Sounds a bit reclusive...


    We have non-lockbox, non-zen ships with Universal Commander slots - Klingon Bird of Preys.
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  • tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    which is KDF only.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TREQGl54BU8&feature=endscreen
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    which is KDF only.

    What's your point?
    At no point in your opening post did you mention you want a Fed-only or Rom-only ship with Commander Uni.
    Nor in any of your following posts.
    Are we supposed to guess what you actually mean?
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.

    :D I like that mindset but...

    which is KDF only.

    ...well may be its time for you to join the right side^^
  • tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I have a KDF character, and I don't wanna fly a squishy BoP on it. I'm not the only person who thinks KDF is lacking in many departments so I'm not going to get into that. I apologize for the bad title, it should have said "Will we ever get *MORE* ships with a Universal Commander slot?"

    Honestly every ship in this game should be configured like the BoP because I should be able to choose my senior staff, but that's a different rant, and an often seen rant.

    So I've corrected myself on the title, and I'll clarify that I want all factions to see more ships with Universal Commander slots. I'm not sure if I missed or overlooked anything else, buit I am sure that the denizens of this forum will be quick to point it out :/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TREQGl54BU8&feature=endscreen
    I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.:confused:
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.

    So basically the answer to the thread's title is "We already have them, but you won't ever get one." :P
  • xparr15xparr15 Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ahhh the Zombie Recluse. One of the only indestructible ships in STO. You can load up so many self heals that you can tank 4 or 5 ships focus fire and not even feel it. Granted you have to rely on pet spam for offence and prob wont kill anything.

    Dunno about that. I can tank and deal massive damage with that thing. I love it.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.

    I know exactly what you mean. I keep hoping that people will create giant boats on the ocean that can launch vehicles into the sky, but I refuse to consider aircraft carriers exist because I don't personally own several billion dollars.
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  • ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    sonnikku wrote: »
    Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis. :D

    you forgot the 6 hangar bays with Super-Elite Drone ships that have BFAW 5 and APB 6
  • tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    I know exactly what you mean. I keep hoping that people will create giant boats on the ocean that can launch vehicles into the sky, but I refuse to consider aircraft carriers exist because I don't personally own several billion dollars.

    thank you for that, very constructive.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I doubt that we will see many ships outside of the examples listed here, and most likely they will not release few, if any more in the future.

    Maybe we will see them again, but I doubt it will be often.

    That said, having a Universal Cmdr slot is very powerful, more than most think, there's a reason why the Plesh Brek wasn't giving a full uni seating, even the devs (for all their faults) are still understanding how potent that can be. Seriously, it lets you do ANYTHING you want with that spot. Having multiple slots or even the Cmdr be universal is pretty huge honestly.

    It's a big thing to have a uni cmdr, it really is.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thank you for that, very constructive.

    No less constructive than when you based what you're willing to believe exists on whether you'd buy it or not.

    ...or is this one of those things where when someone else does it it's absurd, until you do the exact same thing and claim "But that's different!1!!" because it's you doing it?
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xparr15 wrote: »
    Dunno about that. I can tank and deal massive damage with that thing. I love it.

    Yeah, well I once saw a guy in a PVP do the same thing with his Tal'Shiar cruiser. All five of us were beating on his TRIBBLE at once and it took him like five minutes to die.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    B'rel is all universal, no?

    Yes, same as any other Bird of Prey.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    mimey2 wrote: »
    That said, having a Universal Cmdr slot is very powerful, more than most think, there's a reason why the Plesh Brek wasn't giving a full uni seating, even the devs (for all their faults) are still understanding how potent that can be. Seriously, it lets you do ANYTHING you want with that spot. Having multiple slots or even the Cmdr be universal is pretty huge honestly.
    It's not really that powerful. While it's true, you could do anything you'd like with it, your choices are still constrained to things that already exist. As I cannot think of any non-absurd layout that has not already been done on a ship, all Universal slots enable you to do is emulate a ship that already exists.
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.

    Then you have not been playing at time(s) when these ships were available in abundance in exchange for a reasonable price. Tuffli was running for 12 million, the least price I have seen for that ship ever. See the prices now.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It's not really that powerful. While it's true, you could do anything you'd like with it, your choices are still constrained to things that already exist. As I cannot think of any non-absurd layout that has not already been done on a ship, all Universal slots enable you to do is emulate a ship that already exists.

    The biggest draw, I think, would be putting something on a maneuverable ship that is only available on a less maneuverable ship.
    The opposite way seems suboptimal (putting something on a less maneuverable shpi that a more maneuverable ship could do. A Cruiser with an Escort selection of powers would offer no real advantage over an Escort, even if it had more hull. I suppose the only value could be a better beam cruiser, but I suspect the Lt.Cmdr Tac battlecruisers and what not already suffice here.)

    And, well, that has already been done on BOPs. And the only interesting ones I think where Science/Tactical power mixes, since you don't need the BOP maneuverability and low hull for engineering healers.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I don't want to be rude, but this is a perfect example of "why we can't have nice things".

    OP is asking for a universal commander ship which is, aside from the lottery ships, a thing exclusively reserved for KDF raiders. But instead of playing one of those it ust creates demands for "I want that on my fed toon on a cool ship". It's the same with carriers, cloaking devices and so on. Why is it so hard to accept that certain things are just not available to everyone in a game of two factions? Why the constant demand for absolute uniformity?
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    sonnikku wrote: »
    Yes! We need a Fleet Scimitar. The Fleet Scimitar comes with 11 consoles, 8 fore weapon slots and a Commander universal, in addition to the ensign and Lt Cmd unis. :D

    Well heck why your feeling generous, how's about +15 to all subs? :P:D
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Want universal slots for free? Birds of prey are --> way. All tier 4 and higher have universal commander. Enjoy!
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Why is it so hard to accept that certain things are just not available to everyone in a game of two factions? Why the constant demand for absolute uniformity?

    Because they are....special people?
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  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Oh I'm sorry, I don't even consider any lockbox ship in this game at all because I'm not going to gamble away all my zen trying to get one, and I don't have 90million energy credits.
    That is why you don't gamble. Instead, you need to sell the keys for Energy Credits. Keys usually will average about 1.7 million, but I have sold some for 2.5 million on occasion. So they are great money. As for buying ships, here is the arithmetic.

    * The Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser costs 800 Lobi.
    * With 4 Lobi per box opened, 800 Lobi is 200 keys.
    * Keys cost 125 Zen each.
    * 200 keys is the equal to €180 or $250, which is the cost of a Lifetime Subscription.
    * So your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you a Lifetime Subscription.

    * Now you look on the Exchange, where you find the Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser is 100 million.
    * Depending on the day, 50-53 keys sold will get you that 100 million, with some left over for duty officers.
    * Your Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser just cost you €48 or $66.25.

    Moral of the story? Always go the keys to EC route.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Possible?Sure. But I i think they want the ships to have somewhat defined roles. This is usually done through BO loadouts.

    So I'd imagine a ship with a universal Commander station would have to be defined in other ways and have a unique concept.

    My guess would be something like:

    Science Ship or Carrier. 6 Sci Console slots, 2 Tac, 2 Eng.
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