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Tacofangs I Deserve An Explanation

undyingzeroundyingzero Member Posts: 313 Arc User
edited April 2014 in The Art of Star Trek Online
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I live on the island circled in the pic, Puerto Rico. It's known as the Emerald of the Caribbean. WHY IS 70% OF IT WHITE/GRAY?

I'm kidding bro, I'm being melodramatic. I'm pretty stoked to actually SEE the tiny little crappy island I reside in the new ESD exterior zone. Thanks!
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited March 2014
    It's 400 years in the future man. You think all of those trees lasted?
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    At some point I really have to check earth in game and see if there are markings from the Xindi attack or if Los Angeles is sunken in the sea...
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  • neueraccountneueraccount Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The Xindi attacks Florida and not LA
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    neueraccount wrote: »
    The Xindi attacks Florida and not LA

    Thank you captain obvious.

    That didn't stop from Los Angeles sinking in the sea in some probably unrelated event.
    But since both happened the sto earth should show it.
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  • engelenhartengelenhart Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    It's 400 years in the future man. You think all of those trees lasted?

    In the Star Trek universe as Gene Roddenberry imagined it? Most likely. Humans defeated greed with tech. In the corporate vision of Cryptic? Not so much...
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    It's 400 years in the future man. You think all of those trees lasted?

    With the declining population there, yeah, the trees will last. Although given sea level rise, I'd change it to have the southwest corner as a separate island.

    Yes, I'm also puertorrican. It would be nice if it looked greener.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    It's 400 years in the future man. You think all of those trees lasted?

    Same trees as today? No. Will the forrests still be there? Is Yosemite, Yellowstone, and all of those other National Parks still around and forrested?
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited March 2014
    You guys are forgetting the intervening several hundred years. Eugenics Wars, etc.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It might still have trees but I imagine there'd be a bunch of 200 floor skyscrapers with glowing skyways and such. It's always surprised me how much green there is on Earth in Star Trek's future, how did they avoid paving over the planet?
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    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    It might still have trees but I imagine there'd be a bunch of 200 floor skyscrapers with glowing skyways and such. It's always surprised me how much green there is on Earth in Star Trek's future, how did they avoid paving over the planet?
    never mind all those skyscrapers, what about the massive amounts of radiation released during WW3? there should be little to no greenery left, yet there's craptons of it
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the intervening several hundred years. Eugenics Wars, etc.
    You mean Khan nuked Puerto Rico? O_O'

    KHAAAAANNNN!!!!!

    (or maybe Khan lived there and it got nuked to get rid of him....)
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    how did they avoid paving over the planet?

    Shuttlecraft :P
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  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the intervening several hundred years. Eugenics Wars, etc.
    Or in other words; #CDCDCD :P
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the intervening several hundred years. Eugenics Wars, etc.

    But according to STO, didn't the Eugenics Wars happen 300 years ago?
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    This is the Star Trek universe guys, forget trying to reconcile it with our history, it will save a lot of headaches in the long run, in that universe, either the third world war or the eugenic wars should be happening pretty soon
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    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    This is the Star Trek universe guys, forget trying to reconcile it with our history, it will save a lot of headaches in the long run, in that universe, either the third world war or the eugenic wars should be happening pretty soon
    we already passed the point of the eugenics wars, since they happened in the 1990s
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    we already passed the point of the eugenics wars, since they happened in the 1990s
    Or somewhere around 2030, continuity is not something Star Trek writers have ever been very good at.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Or somewhere around 2030, continuity is not something Star Trek writers have ever been very good at.
    far more divergent sources use the 1990s mark than any other mark, so that's the one i always go with

    and the 2030s is around the point when WW3 started
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    It might still have trees but I imagine there'd be a bunch of 200 floor skyscrapers with glowing skyways and such. It's always surprised me how much green there is on Earth in Star Trek's future, how did they avoid paving over the planet?

    Easy. By sending the surplus population to other planets. ;)
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    You guys are forgetting the intervening several hundred years. Eugenics Wars, etc.

    What is your point? Nature DOES recover over time, despite what some would have you believe. I would recommend watching History Channel's "Life After People" or NatGeo's Aftermath: Population 0.
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    never mind all those skyscrapers, what about the massive amounts of radiation released during WW3? there should be little to no greenery left, yet there's craptons of it

    Have you ever heard of Pripyat? Arguably, the Chernobyl disaster should have rendered that area completely barren, yet life is flourishing. Again, I point to the aforementioned programs.

    Also, the Bubonic Plauge killed off 1/3 of the population of Europe causing some areas of Europe to revert to wilderness. Humanity survived, and Nature recovered, if only for a time.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited March 2014
    David, I'm confused. Do you think that all life has died out on Puerto Rico in 2409?

    The point being that there are any number of reasons the PR wouldn't be as lush as it is today. There are equally as many reasons why it would be the same or greener.
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  • cptwilliam2cptwilliam2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Perhaps it was destroyed during the Breen attack and rebuilt out of duranium? :D
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited March 2014
    cptwilliam2 wrote: »
    Perhaps it was destroyed during the Breen attack and rebuilt out of duranium? :D
    hardly, since the breen only had a chance to attack starfleet headquarters before being destroyed by the earth defense fleet
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    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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  • jacqueline3752jacqueline3752 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    2049–2053 World War III nuclear exchange
  • kagasenseikagasensei Member Posts: 526 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    David, I'm confused. Do you think that all life has died out on Puerto Rico in 2409?

    The point being that there are any number of reasons the PR wouldn't be as lush as it is today. There are equally as many reasons why it would be the same or greener.

    Anyways, the bright areas forming an anulus along Puerto Rico's coast are artificial light, not a lack of vegetation
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    jacqueline3752 wrote: »
    2049–2053 World War III nuclear exchange

    And that is why I use the Bubonic Plauge compairison, in addition to pointing out Pripyat.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's winter, so lots of snow on the ground. ;)
    or
    PR now the Federation's biggest shopping mall, you're seeing the roof and parking lots.
    or
    everyone washed their whites and hung them outside to dry.
    :D
  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kagasensei wrote: »
    Anyways, the bright areas forming an anulus along Puerto Rico's coast are artificial light, not a lack of vegetation

    This.

    It's the NASA light map, which would beg the question "Why do population centers look unchanged from the 21st century?"

    :D
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited March 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    David, I'm confused. Do you think that all life has died out on Puerto Rico in 2409?

    The point being that there are any number of reasons the PR wouldn't be as lush as it is today. There are equally as many reasons why it would be the same or greener.

    I think you failed consider the most important facts.
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    I think you failed consider the most important facts.

    .... what did i just watch
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