I understand that Tovan is integral to the Romulan story line (which I find to be very enjoyable) but after level 50, I wish there was some way to dismiss him, as there is with other BOFFs. Let him go marry Charva ( who I wish was more attractive looking, maybe a Romulan version of Troi or T'Pol, so I could put a poster of her in my room, next to my Farrah Fawcett poster) and move to a distant planet. I wouldn't want the Devs to spend too much time on it but it sure would be nice to see that delete button in Tovan's options menu. Am I alone here? If so, let the flaming begin :- )
Oi Hypl, I am not planning on shoving Tovan out of my airlock! I just see through his Undine perception and put him on permanent toilet cleanup. Without any means to work with whatsoever.
Anyway OP. Many people here have the exact same feeling as you, but this particular horse has been slaughtered, put on fire, buried, unburied and sold as cow meat in western European countries. With other words, already discussed 38674967490678507675076746784567847869047696876364535 times.
(and darn you OP, you gave some people hope (including me) that we could finally fire him!)
I don't know, I have three Tovans Khev at this point. I never minded him much, and actually enjoyed having him around the first time through. At the very least he has good skills which make up somewhat for his ubiquity.
I take it as a challenge, then, to make sure all my Tovans look as different from eachother as possible. This way, whenever I run into another 15 of them in the Dyson ground zone I can use the excuse Tovan and Khev are just very common names and Romulan parents are none to creative in naming their kids.
Although, if the world was perfect, I would keep him on my first crew and dump him on my others.
And me. I don't get what the silly fussing is about over this boff.
Because we can't dismiss him. And the power gamer want their boff full of RSO, while some... others want their crew full of women/robot/sexy robot women.
I think they should have added an extra free BOFF slot for Rom, to offset the penalty.
Because we can't dismiss him. And the power gamer want their boff full of RSO, while some... others want their crew full of women/robot/sexy robot women.
Or all Remans. Or any other combination of crew solely of their own choosing, like the actual full factions get. I kicked out the free Klingon male engi you get and replaced him with a woman, because I was allowed to. You can get rid of K'Gan or Flores too if you want. You're stuck with Tovan, and if you don't like the character type they chose to give him there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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You give a guy a personality and story and people bash the guy.
I think the main problem is that you have to have him. He's a visible reminder that every single Romulan player actually has the same backstory, and you can't ever have a fully unique crew. It also annoys people who like giving their boffs backstories, because he comes with a rigidly set storyline and identity that you can't customize.
Elisa Flores would be a similar problem (what? you mean you didn't have a human female friend called Elisa Flores at the Academy? that's silly talk!) except that you can dismiss her.
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...I can use the excuse Tovan and Khev are just very common names and Romulan parents are none to creative in naming their kids...
I've gotta think it is a somewhat common name, Tovan. When I rolled my Rommie (when LoR first came out), I decided I wanted an "authentic" Romulan name, so I went to one of those Online Character Naming Engines, selected "Star Trek" "Romulan" and "Male" and used the name I was presented:
Tovan.
By the time I realized that not only was the BOff un-dismisable, but also very unpopular, I was too far into the storyline to go back (and too cheap for a renameing token), so Tovan I shall remain.
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I think the main problem is that you have to have him. He's a visible reminder that every single Romulan player actually has the same backstory, and you can't ever have a fully unique crew. It also annoys people who like giving their boffs backstories, because he comes with a rigidly set storyline and identity that you can't customize.
I'd mind Tovan less if we could dictate where / what his role is when we visit starship bridge.
I hate seeing him sitting a chair right next to my captains chair. He should be on his knees scrubbing the floors with a toothbrush, or serving as someones leg rest...
Useless git.
Altho if Cryptic would upgrade him to Superior Romulan Operative he would be more appealing
Useless? When you go groundside, he Lunges at everything. So I bought him a nice bat'leth. Now he's a freaking combat monster.
And I have to believe there's a certain lack of uniqueness to Romulan names, explaining why they always use their birthplace as a second name. Do you have any idea how many Aels I see out there every day?
That said, Bergins, I've gone you one better. On my emergency backup account I have Tovan Khev, commander of the Ar'kif warbird Tovan Khev V. His crew consists of Tovan Khev2, Tofan Khef, Toban Kheb, and the Reman female engineer Touan Kheu. He's also picked up Towan Khew and Tovvan Khevv.
I understand that Tovan is integral to the Romulan story line (which I find to be very enjoyable) but after level 50, I wish there was some way to dismiss him, as there is with other BOFFs. Let him go marry Charva ( who I wish was more attractive looking, maybe a Romulan version of Troi or T'Pol, so I could put a poster of her in my room, next to my Farrah Fawcett poster) and move to a distant planet. I wouldn't want the Devs to spend too much time on it but it sure would be nice to see that delete button in Tovan's options menu. Am I alone here? If so, let the flaming begin :- )
He's plenty of enjoyment for me, as I constantly send him into ground battles to watch him get his butt handed to him each and every time.
That said, Bergins, I've gone you one better. On my emergency backup account I have Tovan Khev, commander of the Ar'kif warbird Tovan Khev V. His crew consists of Tovan Khev2, Tofan Khef, Toban Kheb, and the Reman female engineer Touan Kheu. He's also picked up Towan Khew and Tovvan Khevv.
Yes, but it sounds like you did the naming intentionally. I named my toon before I realized what a backlash the name'd get.
Last time I was in ESD with MY Tovan, I got hate messages.
HATE MESSAGES!??!?
ALMOST makes me want to waste the Zen on the rename token. Instead, I just don't play him much, and as such, will probably never spend Zen on him at all. Frankly, I chose Fed-side partly because I can't bear running around 1st City, but mostly because I thought I was going to be able to use my account-unlock C-Store ships... ERG!!
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Except me. I actually have a use for him in my crew. Everyone else wants to shove him out an airlock. :P
And me.
Seriously, Thovan has some awesome space traits my non-romulan characters a quiet jealous of.
And I remember a (admiditly very long time ago) I did spent 30 millions to get that Torpedo spread III he comes with.
And for his roles: By now he's customizable. Make your own Thovan Khev. I did.Outside of a few facts about him given by the story missions he just a little less generic then other characters, so "my" backstory for him is as unique as the one of most of my BOs.
And if you want another first officer take one, whats the problem? He's not my first officer for sure.
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death and taxes, but khev is one i can avoid :rolleyes: rather have khem val around then let him devour me when im an old man, better then having khev telling me how to run my ship.
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death and taxes, but khev is one i can avoid :rolleyes: rather have khem val around then let him devour me when im an old man, better then having khev telling me how to run my ship.
hahaha. hakeev, his mirror version should be heroic and selfless compared to his prime counterpart who was arrogant and had his minions do the work.
I doubt that. What people never really seem to get about the Mirror Universe is that it is not actually the moral inversion of the Prime Universe. What actually seems to happen, based on all the evidence, is that the negative aspects of people's personalities are magnified.
Hence, the Klinks and Cardies are even bigger TRIBBLE$holes in the MU than the PU, Sisko is an arrogant jackwad who started the Terran Rebellion because he was bored, Kirk's confidence-bordering-on-arrogance and womanizing tendencies become attempted r@pe, etc.
EDIT: For Pete's sake, PWE.
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Except me. I actually have a use for him in my crew. Everyone else wants to shove him out an airlock. :P
Anyway OP. Many people here have the exact same feeling as you, but this particular horse has been slaughtered, put on fire, buried, unburied and sold as cow meat in western European countries. With other words, already discussed 38674967490678507675076746784567847869047696876364535 times.
(and darn you OP, you gave some people hope (including me) that we could finally fire him!)
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Don't get me wrong I actually like him, but my second republic character is going for an all reman crew and he is throwing off my concept.
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Keep him, someone has to scrub the plasma conduits :P
I take it as a challenge, then, to make sure all my Tovans look as different from eachother as possible. This way, whenever I run into another 15 of them in the Dyson ground zone I can use the excuse Tovan and Khev are just very common names and Romulan parents are none to creative in naming their kids.
Although, if the world was perfect, I would keep him on my first crew and dump him on my others.
And me. I don't get what the silly fussing is about over this boff.
I think they should have added an extra free BOFF slot for Rom, to offset the penalty.
As for myself, I'm fine with Tovan.
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I think the main problem is that you have to have him. He's a visible reminder that every single Romulan player actually has the same backstory, and you can't ever have a fully unique crew. It also annoys people who like giving their boffs backstories, because he comes with a rigidly set storyline and identity that you can't customize.
Elisa Flores would be a similar problem (what? you mean you didn't have a human female friend called Elisa Flores at the Academy? that's silly talk!) except that you can dismiss her.
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Tovan.
By the time I realized that not only was the BOff un-dismisable, but also very unpopular, I was too far into the storyline to go back (and too cheap for a renameing token), so Tovan I shall remain.
Then don't use him? Problem solved.
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I hate seeing him sitting a chair right next to my captains chair. He should be on his knees scrubbing the floors with a toothbrush, or serving as someones leg rest...
Useless git.
Altho if Cryptic would upgrade him to Superior Romulan Operative he would be more appealing
And I have to believe there's a certain lack of uniqueness to Romulan names, explaining why they always use their birthplace as a second name. Do you have any idea how many Aels I see out there every day?
That said, Bergins, I've gone you one better. On my emergency backup account I have Tovan Khev, commander of the Ar'kif warbird Tovan Khev V. His crew consists of Tovan Khev2, Tofan Khef, Toban Kheb, and the Reman female engineer Touan Kheu. He's also picked up Towan Khew and Tovvan Khevv.
He's plenty of enjoyment for me, as I constantly send him into ground battles to watch him get his butt handed to him each and every time.
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Yes, but it sounds like you did the naming intentionally. I named my toon before I realized what a backlash the name'd get.
Last time I was in ESD with MY Tovan, I got hate messages.
HATE MESSAGES!??!?
ALMOST makes me want to waste the Zen on the rename token. Instead, I just don't play him much, and as such, will probably never spend Zen on him at all. Frankly, I chose Fed-side partly because I can't bear running around 1st City, but mostly because I thought I was going to be able to use my account-unlock C-Store ships... ERG!!
hahaha. hakeev, his mirror version should be heroic and selfless compared to his prime counterpart who was arrogant and had his minions do the work.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
And me.
Seriously, Thovan has some awesome space traits my non-romulan characters a quiet jealous of.
And I remember a (admiditly very long time ago) I did spent 30 millions to get that Torpedo spread III he comes with.
And for his roles: By now he's customizable. Make your own Thovan Khev. I did.Outside of a few facts about him given by the story missions he just a little less generic then other characters, so "my" backstory for him is as unique as the one of most of my BOs.
And if you want another first officer take one, whats the problem? He's not my first officer for sure.
death and taxes, but khev is one i can avoid :rolleyes: rather have khem val around then let him devour me when im an old man, better then having khev telling me how to run my ship.
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Hence, the Klinks and Cardies are even bigger TRIBBLE$holes in the MU than the PU, Sisko is an arrogant jackwad who started the Terran Rebellion because he was bored, Kirk's confidence-bordering-on-arrogance and womanizing tendencies become attempted r@pe, etc.
EDIT: For Pete's sake, PWE.
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