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Console Tactical Automated Defense Turret

meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Another item I've been looking for but doesn't seem to be available anywhere is this handy little number.

Yes, I know, it was a pre-order bonus. But it seems to be the single pre-order that you canna' get now. all of the others have been made available through various means, but not this one.

I even went looking to buy the digital delux version to get it, but none of the companies that did offer it are no longer selling it.

So could we get it back? maybe as a special console on some new (cross faction) shuttle? Please?
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  • alfamegaalfamega Member Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    its useless item. damage is pathetic. its tactical console, not universal one. who cares?..
    i got it and only use was during the leveling.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's only truely useful purpose is vs HY Plasmas... Even then, you are better off with the Thunderchild turret... at least that one is useful against other things too.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Still the OP's idea is sound. As a 100 zen item purchase it'd be a nice new addition. Or something thrown onto a new shuttle. Be nice to have it in the offering. And that's coming from me, who has the item available already. Because of my pre-order way back when.
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  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Still a few items that were pre-order and no longer able to get.

    After 4 years, don't really see the problem if all my "perks" from the release day were put in to the C-Store now. I really have had my moneys worth out of them now, time to let everyone else have a play.

    Well, that's my opinion.
  • wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's not completely useless - HY torps are the obvious use for them, but they can also handle fighters pretty well, and in PvP if a cloaked enemy gets close enough too you it'll pop off a round to let you know someone is out there.

    and it's not the only pre-order that isn't available now - Joined Trill, TR116 rifle, red matter cap, EMH console are just a few off the top of my head.

    edit -
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    Still a few items that were pre-order and no longer able to get.

    After 4 years, don't really see the problem if all my "perks" from the release day were put in to the C-Store now. I really have had my moneys worth out of them now, time to let everyone else have a play.

    Well, that's my opinion.

    I bought most all of the pre-orders once i decided to buy the lifetime during launch - I bought my copy from attari before they offered the EMH, so I didn't get that, and I lost my target box with the code for the Tr116 before I was able to enter it - but otherwise I have them all.

    I did get fairly pissed when they extended the Lib Borg for all lifers, and would probably get pissed again if they also released the joined trill - I spent good money to have these limited unique captains. - and the Red Matter Cap becoming open to the public would kill any hope of ever curbing power creep.

    - but everything else I don't give F@#k all about, put em in the C-store.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    Still a few items that were pre-order and no longer able to get.

    After 4 years, don't really see the problem if all my "perks" from the release day were put in to the C-Store now. I really have had my moneys worth out of them now, time to let everyone else have a play.

    Well, that's my opinion.

    It's not a matter of our opinions, it's a matter of contracts and agreements.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    New ship, revamp this old console? :3c
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    It's not a matter of our opinions, it's a matter of contracts and agreements.

    Like the perk with the TOS Constitution?

    Or the perk with Liberated Borg BOFF?

    Or the perk with Mirror Universe uniforms?

    Is it time for another big bold threadnaught about contracts? It's certainly been awhile.

    ;)
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  • dsarisdsaris Member Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Surprised nobody mentioned the Red Matter from the collector's edition. Currently unobtainable and quite useful.
  • potencethe1stpotencethe1st Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I used it on my peregrine shuttle for the longest time as protection against torps, but that's abou the extent of its usefulness these days. If it were a universal though...
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    As others mentioned, it can be a useful console against HY torpedos and mines, but in the later game it's most useful on a shuttle.

    I'd certainly like to see the remaining unavailable perk items released. There may or may not be contractual issues in the way - just because some items have been released doesn't mean the others don't have some kind of clause preventing it - but it'd be cool.
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  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It only does 45 damage at a pitiful rate of fire that should be doubled or tripled.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    Like the perk with the TOS Constitution?

    Or the perk with Liberated Borg BOFF?

    Or the perk with Mirror Universe uniforms?

    Is it time for another big bold threadnaught about contracts? It's certainly been awhile.

    ;)

    Ignore them all you want... Your problem... no really... It's YOUR problem.

    But companies who actually have something to lose tend to follow the contracts they've signed... It's sort of a law thing.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    dsaris wrote: »
    Surprised nobody mentioned the Red Matter from the collector's edition. Currently unobtainable and quite useful.


    the RMC was a C.E. bonus, not a preorder bonus. you can still get them if you get your hands on a never used copy.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    wildmousex wrote: »
    the RMC was a C.E. bonus, not a preorder bonus. you can still get them if you get your hands on a never used copy.

    Those are still hard to find. :(
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Ignore them all you want... Your problem... no really... It's YOUR problem.

    But companies who actually have something to lose tend to follow the contracts they've signed... It's sort of a law thing.

    What you're ignoring is that long list of other items they had in pre-orders which are now available for purchase in the game's store.

    There's no contract keeping them from putting it in the store. The only thing holding them back is, it's probably not something that would be profitable. See above criticism of the item to understand why it might not be profitable.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    when i first start up a toon the first thing that gets planted on the ship is the automated turret, it shoots one energy bolt out every so often on a cd and does next to nothing in damage, but enough to destroy HY torps instead of diverting weapons power, targeting and focus to that HY instead of the target. i can not tell you how much this one little turret has saved my bacon when i knew i was dead to rights.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    What you're ignoring is that long list of other items they had in pre-orders which are now available for purchase in the game's store.

    There's no contract keeping them from putting it in the store. The only thing holding them back is, it's probably not something that would be profitable. See above criticism of the item to understand why it might not be profitable.

    You know... The use of the Word "probably" tends to indicate "I have no clue, so I use this word because it will make my case more believable".

    Basically you have no clue... And that would be ok if it weren't so redicilous, but other than the possibility of them being bound by some kind of agreement, there is no reason why they would not be in the store.

    Of cause, we can just use your model: Stick our fingers in our ears and make a "lalalala" noise believing it will go away that way. I am sure that will work too. (Tell me again that the RMC would not be profitable, and make me believe it).
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    You know... The use of the Word "probably" tends to indicate "I have no clue, so I use this word because it will make my case more believable".

    Basically you have no clue... And that would be ok if it weren't so redicilous, but other than the possibility of them being bound by some kind of agreement, there is no reason why they would not be in the store.

    Of cause, we can just use your model: Stick our fingers in our ears and make a "lalalala" noise believing it will go away that way. I am sure that will work too. (Tell me again that the RMC would not be profitable, and make me believe it).

    You know people who spell the word ridiculous wrong also have no clue. So there's that.

    What I do have a very strong clue about though is you can go into the C-Store right now and purchase a bunch of different pre-order items. Including the pre-order Tribble.

    Of "cause" -- as you would say -- there just has to be a contract preventing them from putting the automated defense turret into the store. Right?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anyways, grammar police aside.

    i dont see any reason why these pre order items should be limited either, the red matter capacitor would probably be a gold mine.
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  • wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    the RMC would create power creep like no-ones business if it became open to the public.
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Personaly I would rather see it rebuilt as a rep console for the undine.

    It'd be nice if that little bolt were just a bonus. I dont see how tacking it onto something like the zero point console would be OP.

    Or even if it was a set bonus for something like aegis.

    As a stand alone it really isnt that amazing and if i had to buy it it would be like a 20 z purchase for me.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    wildmousex wrote: »
    the RMC would create power creep like no-ones business if it became open to the public.

    STO is full of power creep as it is, nerf other abilities and bring the RMC in.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You guys really want a JJ Abrams inspired item put into the C-Store?

    I'm kind of shocked.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    You guys really want a JJ Abrams inspired item put into the C-Store?

    I'm kind of shocked.

    RMC is prime universe item, it wasnt created in an alternative jjcrap universe. so to me i have no problem with it.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    RMC is prime universe item, it wasnt created in an alternative jjcrap universe. so to me i have no problem with it.

    Yeah, but it's created by JJ Abrams' story. Him, Kurtzman and Orci wrote the story that it spawns from. (And before you cite Countdown, that comic comes from Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci too).
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  • cptwilliam2cptwilliam2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    My basic assumption is that the contracts stop them from offering them. Its the only thing that makes sense given Cryptics behavior towards selling stuff.

    The reason why some are available and some aren't is probably the same thing, contracts preventing some while other contracts allowing them/
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  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    wildmousex wrote: »
    the RMC was a C.E. bonus, not a preorder bonus. you can still get them if you get your hands on a never used copy.

    Right.....so any suggestions where I could get one of these since the digital deluxe version was a download (no disc included) only available from specific vendors that no longer sell it?
  • wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    meldrithpw wrote: »
    Right.....so any suggestions where I could get one of these since the digital deluxe version was a download (no disc included) only available from specific vendors that no longer sell it?

    You don't need the Digital Deluxe version for the RMC, just the Collectors Edition - they have 4 of them for sale on amazon for $41 at the moment. (20 bucks cheaper then I bought it for pre order)

    comes with hard bound art book, a communicator, the Red Matter Capacitor, and the next gen/DS9 uniforms.

    http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Online-Collectors-Edition-PC/dp/B002V1PTO8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394743931&sr=8-1&keywords=sto+collectors+edition
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Question: What do you mean by Joined Trill are not available? You mean as a Boff right?

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