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  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited February 2014

    Joined January 2009
    Finger wrote:
    Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    *Out of game character bios (although the Gateway has re-added this, they said they'll probably kill off the Gateway because they don't know how to monetize it)
    Everytime they make a feature or anything that doesn't make money, they remove it, no matter how useful it is.
    This is how STO will look in a few years.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    Everytime they make a feature or anything that doesn't make money, they remove it, no matter how useful it is.
    This is how STO will look in a few years.

    pfff thats for oldies way of doing it this is new age stuff here
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited February 2014

    Joined January 2009
    Finger wrote:
    Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
  • mavgeekrsamavgeekrsa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    Everytime they make a feature or anything that doesn't make money, they remove it, no matter how useful it is.
    This is how STO will look in a few years.

    Except that slot machines by law are guaranteed to eventually pay out, at some point.

    Sadly that same law does not apply to mmorpgs.
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  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    leemwatson wrote: »
    STO is a great game, one I'm trying to get friends into. When they are told to download ARC by the website, some didn't even bother with the game. When I first downloaded STO, all I had to do was download the Client engine and that's it. Turn the thing off, and concentrate on the game!:mad::mad::mad:

    Yeah I know what you mean. I have not been able to get anyone to download the game now that they have to go through Arc to do so.

    And it is bloody annoying to have to enter my account name and password every bloody time I want to see or post something. You get the feeling you are on a phony website used to copy your personal datat. Not very reassuring. Not that Arc ever was.
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Anyone not able to get around the ARC client should probably not be playing a computer game, just saying.
  • pmaddenpmadden Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I use the Arc program, and I like it as its convenient for me as a play other arc games. I like that I can see what is going on in those games from that program.

    That said I really don't like the new web layout, its just awful compared to the old site in every way.

    Its confusing, needlessly complicated and just ugly!

    had to enter my account name and password 3 times, just to find my account status for sto.

    for the love of Q! change the sites back!!!!
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    After using it for a few days now, I don't really like it. I'm fine with the forums and ARC, but the new website is a jumbled mess. The media section is a hodgepodge of videos and wallpapers and screenshots all stuck together with no real organization. I had to look at the dates that things were posted on to make any sense of it. It's still not easy to do that either.

    I liked the old site better. It had a proper flow and organization to it. This new one doesn't.
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    Everytime they make a feature or anything that doesn't make money, they remove it, no matter how useful it is.
    This is how STO will look in a few years.

    Oh, i get it.

    You know that actually makes sense if you stop and think about it.

    Technically, i think they call that - replicating & optimizing -.

    Maybe they actually own stock in the company.

    The stock price is impressive.
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  • anothervisitoranothervisitor Member Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    erei1 wrote: »

    The one-armed bandit is already in the game; they call it lockboxes...
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
  • allyoftheforceallyoftheforce Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm not even going to bother with the front page anymore. I saved the forums in my favs just for that. I'll live with having to sign in every time I do this even though I click the "Keep Me Signed In" option, it doesn't work. You guys going to fix this or what?
  • coldwarrior69coldwarrior69 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You know if cryptic/PWE does not want to listen to their community i say we band together and deny them what they do listen too... M-O-N-E-Y.

    I mean hell since our opinions of making arc either optional or dropping it altogether because a vast majority simply doesn't want it, and since PWE/Cryptic wants to stonewall us into using pARC spyware, it only logically stands to reason that we as a community can grab PWE by the brass by refusing to spend another penny on any PWE game and stonewall them in to listening to the community for a change.

    i mean after all it is as the old saying goes "Money Talks".
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Also, the ARC site doesnt have a server up indicator.
    Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Once again, stayed logged in to the main <PTUI!> ARC page, stayed logged in to the abominable ARC STO page, had to log in to the forums.

    I guess this will be like the whole "redirect loop" problem with the support page- as in if we're lucky they'll get it sorted in late 2016. :rolleyes:
  • darthpostaldarthpostal Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    we as a community can grab PWE by the brass by refusing to spend another penny

    If people will stop spending on STO, PWE will shut it down. Hardly a solution.
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but the fact that the art for the "Season 8.5 is now live" box has been reversed means the Starfleet officer is wearing his combadge on the wrong side. It looks bad.
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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    ...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
  • sevenschasersevenschaser Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Here is my review so far.
    Good:
    1) I like when you scroll down it starts to load older new items
    2) Website is currently still in beta.

    Bad:
    1) The news page does not allow you to easily go to much older news without having it load the page many times over
    2) When loading much older news items the Java Script forces too many interrupts that it freezes the internet browser and slows the internet activity.
    3) The website is not laid out to be user friendly (I used to be able to navigate between major categories but now I am very limited.
    4) I am unable to view the bottom support bar since the news items keep forcing it to the bottom of the screen (so can not select contact support or view terms of service)

    General comment:
    This page development is indicative of modern website development (too much reliance on making the page look better than optimizing the page for user interaction and loading times), to me that is lazy website and programming development. :mad:

    Note since you can make something more complicated does not mean you have to.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited February 2014
    It took less than 1 work day and it would be trivially easy for the web guys to emulate (I ENCOURAGE IT!) for not just the STO site, but for all PWE Arc sites.
    In less than 8 hours while at his job, ONE MAN has shamed PWE's entire web development staff... -.-'

    Bravo sir this site looks 1000x more professional and eye catching. Far more tolerable thant PWE's own attempt.

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    For people having a 'stay logged in' issue, have you tried deleting all the cookies in your history and trying again? I know it seems improbable but often this fixes the issue for me.
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  • cellanoid#1655 cellanoid Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If people will stop spending on STO, PWE will shut it down. Hardly a solution.

    Better to kill it off than have it continue like this.
  • klingonkiller5klingonkiller5 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Argggg I Never Usually Post Here But This Issue Cught My Eye Hey (person In Charge Of Cryptic Whoever U R Reuturn To The Old Style Site I Havent Seen One Good Comment On This Piece Of S---- New Website Im A 4 Year Vet Of The Game Subcribed For 500+ Days And I Am Geting Really Anoyed That U Guys Dont Seem To Get The F
    Mesage Evrbody Does Not Like It I Hate Too It Mad Me Crash Eevry Time I Try To Use It Oh By The Way Put A Server Status Widget On There Too And While U R At It Make To Where Players Can Choose To Have The Old Style To Sto Website Too As A Option Geeeez When Will U Idiots Learn Players Wil Only Take So Much TRIBBLE Before Deciding To Play New Game Elder Scrolls Online Im Definitly Thinking About It Whether I Do Is Up To U Guys At Cryptic/imperfectworld
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    In less than 8 hours while at his job, ONE MAN has shamed PWE's entire web development staff... -.-'

    Bravo sir this site looks 1000x more professional and eye catching. Far more tolerable thant PWE's own attempt.
    I agree completely, that is a far more professional looking and eye appealing presentation, that has an unmistakable Star Trek look, unlike this sites new improved bland generic appearance.
    Better to kill it off than have it continue like this.
    Sometime I wonder if a petition campaign to CBS would help throttle this abomination but I doubt it, as long as the money keeps rolling in things will continue on as they are going. That said the evidence is overwhelming, Arc is coming people and very soon and all of the prevarication in the world isn't going to alter the truth that we aren't being given a choice in the matter.
    If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
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  • klingonkiller5klingonkiller5 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    why does the best star trek game ever have to be rune by stupid moronsnim not talking about devs or desighners im talking about the people in charge at per ahhhmm imperfect world who thinks evryone love this arc layout and will kiss the screen every time NEWS F----ING FLASH PERFECT WORLD WE HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE ANOTHER VERSION STAR TREK THEMS SIMILAR TO OLD ONE OR REVERT TO OLD ONE PERMANENTLY AND REVAMP IT LIK U SUPOSED TO DO TO A WEBSITE REGULARLY THANX VERY ANOOYED AND GETTING MORE ANNOYED ALL THE TIME LOYAL CUSTOMER HOW LONG I AM A LYAL CUSTOMER DEPENDS ON U GUYS ACTUALLY LISING AND READING THESE POSTS I SEE IM OVER #240+ COMMENTS 99% BAD IF THAT STATISTIC DOESNT TELL U GUYS TO SCRAP ARC I GUESS U WILL LOSE CUSTOMERS TO ELDER SCROLLS IN DROVES
  • klingonkiller5klingonkiller5 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    HEY PERFECT WORLD #1 SCRAP ARC
    #2 CREATE NEWER VERSION OF STO WEBSITE
    33 MAKE IT FULLY STAR TREK THEMED WITH LINKS TO EVERY POSSIBLE ASPECT OF LEARING ABOUT BUYING SUBS AND ZEN WHATEVER A CUSTOMER NEEDS
    #4 STOP MAKING US GRIND OURSELVES ASSLEEP:mad::(:rolleyes:
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I must confess I find the new look most confusing I still haven't found where you go to transfer characters to tribble.
    I have also noticed on the my account page it has my date of joining at 04/10/2012 that is correct but it says I have total playing time of 2 days 12 hrs 59 mins
    since I have hardly missed a day since joining and play conservatively on average 4 hrs a day I would say that is a tad short, I would put my total play time closer to 108 days give or take a little.
    I find this most odd.
    and where has the peanut labs earn zen link gone, I have watched loads of adverts on there and earned a considerable amount of zen in the prossess, I would hate to see this perk lost.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • thumpyechothumpyecho Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited February 2014

    TL;DR: Look at my shiny pictures.


    Promote this Man!!!!
  • crash490rcrash490r Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thumpyecho wrote: »
    Yeah they are hence the redirect before you can do anything....but I suspect thats not what you meant....anyway...

    No one is being forced to use the new website, let me put this in bold/caps.

    NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE HERE.

    If you don't like the new website/forums, don't use them. PW is not forcing you to go to these sites, YOU as a sentient being continue to visit them. So if you dislike them so **** much, stop visiting the sites. Use your sentience!!!
    Bloody hell you people are the biggest bunch of whining crybabies I have ever seen.

    FACT: this is the new website. It's not going to change. Demanding it be changed back is pointless. Grow up and get used it. Arc will soon be mandatory. It's coming. They aren't going to change their minds because the same 25 people who complain about every single change are still, y'know, complaining.

    Grow the hell up and start acting like adults. If you have CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, then by all means express it. But the constant neverending crying and moaning has got to stop. It's old and tired. And it serves absolutely no useful purpose because (heartbreaker) IT'S ALL BEING IGNORED.

    Damn, it's like nursery school around here.

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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,181 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tpalelena wrote: »
    Also, the ARC site doesnt have a server up indicator.

    That will come after the loss of the launcher. Remember ARC is still in Beta testing so not all functionality is currently there.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If people will stop spending on STO, PWE will shut it down. Hardly a solution.

    If people suddenly stopped spending, then CBS would likely pull the Licence from PWE before they shut down STO. Because it would show that the community is rebelling against PWE. So then they would likely put STO up for auction and give another Internet company a chance to continue the title.

    Or CBS would shut down STO and open up the opportunity for another Internet Company to make a new STO.
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