Haha, that's what I made happen in an alternate timeline in which my seduction of Spock was completely successful aboard the Memenda. Kirk was arrested, the crew were given amnesty as I promised and released back to the Federation, and Spock stayed with me aboard our new vessel, the ch'R Enterprise.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
If the Undine really wanted to destroy Earth or Qo'nos, all they had to do was hit the planet as a spacestation would have been destroyed by the resulting explosion. The idea of putting a spacestation to 'distract' the Undine is very least duboius, if not criminal waste of resources. The Floatilla has been always the first and last line of defense of the Republic, and is ships attacking and defeating the Undine, Tal'Shiar, and Iconians; not a free floating target that will keep the colonies safe.
Ancient Griffon insult
That one is so stupid, he lost a Rock/Paper/Scissors game to a Pony.
Anyway, this is more along the lines of my dream ship: The Romulan V-11 Stormbird Akif Class, developed from Klingon-made D7 Battle Cruisers. Just make it T5, give it the T'varo set (so it can hurl BIG RED ROMULAN BALLS OF DEATH and other projectiles while cloaked), and let me have 3 Commander BOff slots (one from each department), 2 Subcommander BOff slots, 2 Centurion BOff slots, and 2 Ensign BOff slots. Oh, and five forward weapons and four aft. With 2 half hangars to launch 2 wings each of 3 level 52 T'varo Light Warbirds.
Anyway, this is more along the lines of my dream ship: The Romulan V-11 Stormbird Akif Class, developed from Klingon-made D7 Battle Cruisers. Just make it T5, give it the T'varo set (so it can hurl BIG RED ROMULAN BALLS OF DEATH and other projectiles while cloaked), and let me have 3 Commander BOff slots (one from each department), 2 Subcommander BOff slots, 2 Centurion BOff slots, and 2 Ensign BOff slots. Oh, and five forward weapons and four aft. With 2 half hangars to launch 2 wings each of 3 level 52 T'varo Light Warbirds.
And it comes with already elite level warbirds with the same stats as the elite JHAS pet but plasma, and instead of ramming speed, mini destabilized plasma torpedoes. And don't forget, the stormbird has a turn rate of 16, and has battle cloak and singularity powers with a power bonus instead of decrease.
And it comes with already elite level warbirds with the same stats as the elite JHAS pet but plasma, and instead of ramming speed, mini destabilized plasma torpedoes. And don't forget, the stormbird has a turn rate of 16, and has battle cloak and singularity powers with a power bonus instead of decrease.
Hold on there, that would be imbalanced. Why not instead simply give it the firepower of those invisible one-shot plasma torpedoes the Borg toss around, and also the hull strength of a Doomsday Machine? We have to keep this fair and balanced, after all. Otherwise, someone might start screaming for it to be nerfed. Eh, they probably will anyway.
The D7 Battle Cruiser (or more accurately, according to non-canonical sources, the V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird) is canonically associated with the Romulans as well. Of the two TOS episodes in which we got to see Romulans, "Balance of Power" has a single T'liss and "The Enterprise Incident" has (in the original edition) three V-11 Stormbird Akif warbirds (two in the digitally remastered edition, with a T'liss). The only female Romulan Commander (indeed, the only female Romulan at all) whom we saw in TOS was commanding a small fleet of V-11 Stormbird Akif Warbirds (in the original edition). The V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird is too iconic for Romulan females for me to not want it as a Romulan vessel.
The FASA designs cannot be used in STO, unless Cryptic/PWE can get the rights to use them, and that hasn't been something they've shown much interest in doing in the past.
Love to see those ships in the game, alas I doubt we'd be seeing them in game for much the same reason why we aren't seeing Romulan ship designs from the Star Trek Armada games or the more TOS-era inspired ships from Klingon Academy. A shame, I don't think I have seen those ship designs in any games outside of a few mods.
Not that it'd be impossible. The Winged Defender class made it into a few video games. I'm just not sure Cryptic has the drive to pursue things like that.
A shame because I'd really like to see a Shrike-Class or Winged Defender Class in-game.
The D7 Battle Cruiser (or more accurately, according to non-canonical sources, the V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird) is canonically associated with the Romulans as well. Of the two TOS episodes in which we got to see Romulans, "Balance of Power" has a single T'liss and "The Enterprise Incident" has (in the original edition) three V-11 Stormbird Akif warbirds (two in the digitally remastered edition, with a T'liss). The only female Romulan Commander (indeed, the only female Romulan at all) whom we saw in TOS was commanding a small fleet of V-11 Stormbird Akif Warbirds (in the original edition). The V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird is too iconic for Romulan females for me to not want it as a Romulan vessel.
The FASA designs cannot be used in STO, unless Cryptic/PWE can get the rights to use them, and that hasn't been something they've shown much interest in doing in the past.
Oh I know its associated with the Romulans and it is canonically so. It is after all the first warp capable vessels they got via their first alliance with the Klingons. I just mean its too much a Klingon icon for me to really WANT it for romulans. Now, its one of the things we agree on that itd be nice to have in STO. I mean if they're still using 100yr old warbirds retrofit with warp drives why the hell wouldnt they have a few of the old V-11?
"Romulan ships were limited to sublight propulsion until they acquired warp drive during a brief alliance with the Klingons in 2268, while the Klingons got Romulan BoPs and cloaking."
There are even three mistakes or overinterpretations in this statement:
1. Firstly, there is no evidence that the ship in "Balance of Terror" or even all Romulan ships until then didn't have warp drive. The myth came to life because of a line in TOS: "Balance of Terror" about the Romulans having "simple impulse" although this statement by Scotty could be easily interpreted differently. But as a consequence, the Star Trek Chronology explicitly states that Romulan ships during the Earth-Romulan War had impulse propulsion only, seemingly corroborated by a depiction of a primitive-looking Romulan ship of that time which is completely non-canon though. In "Star Trek: Insurrection" it was attempted to carry the error into canon Trek with a mention of warp drive that "helped to form a bunch of Romulan thugs into an empire... a century ago". However, a thorough analysis of the topic of Warp Drive and Romulan History shows countless lines of reasoning against this notion, and at last ENT: "Minefield" unmistakably shows old Romulan ships with warp drive.
2. We do not have any solid evidence that there was a brief alliance between the Romulans and the Klingons which must have existed since at latest 2268 and likely until the battle at Klach D'kel Brakt in 2270. The line from TOS: "The Enterprise Incident" intended to clarify why the Romulans had originally Klingon D7 cruisers was just "They are using Klingon design", not really implying how the Romulans got their hands on the starships.
3. The Klingon Bird-of-Prey is a Klingon design and always was. ENT: "Expanse" gives us the ultimate proof because the Klingon starships resemble the later Klingon BoPs so closely that it would be a hair-raising theory to claim that the latter might be acquired from the Romulans more than a century later.
Never mind the fact that it is utterly impossible to become an interstellar power of this nature without having FTL, and that if the T'liss in "Balance of Terror" didn't have FTL capability then how the hell did it get to the Neutral Zone in the first place?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Oh for crying out loud. Just going to quote Ex Astris Scientia on the subject.
Never mind the fact that it is utterly impossible to become an interstellar power of this nature without having FTL, and that if the T'liss in "Balance of Terror" didn't have FTL capability then how the hell did it get to the Neutral Zone in the first place?
Romulans had FTL capability before they left Vulcan.
There have been many many discussions about how to interpret Scotty's "Their power is simple impulse." But I think most everyone realizes that Romulans were able to attain FTL travel even before "Balance of Terror."
Personally, I like the one that says that the power consumption of using the cloaking device used too much energy for them to do both simultaneously, and leave it at that, with the alliance between the RSE and the Klingon Empire benefiting the RSE by enabling them to produce enough power to do both simultaneously.
No, that's a whole lot of "I can't stand willfully ignorant imbeciles."
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Romulans had FTL capability before they left Vulcan.
There have been many many discussions about how to interpret Scotty's "Their power is simple impulse." But I think most everyone realizes that Romulans were able to attain FTL travel even before "Balance of Terror."
Personally, I like the one that says that the power consumption of using the cloaking device used too much energy for them to do both simultaneously, and leave it at that, with the alliance between the RSE and the Klingon Empire benefiting the RSE by enabling them to produce enough power to do both simultaneously.
I always looked at is as the Federation didn't know what a Zero-point energy (Singularity) power source was since it does not emit like matter annihilation things like neutrinos. Scotty may have interpreted this as lacking a "warp core".
Exactly. Bad writing piled on top of more bad writing, over the course of some forty years by several writers, combined with two significant mishaps/last minute changes ("oops, can't find the Romulan model, think someone stepped on it - just use the Klingon one instead" and "the villains of this movie are going to be Klingons, not Romulans, even though we already built a 'bird of prey'" ) to further confuse the issue.
Exactly. Bad writing piled on top of more bad writing, over the course of some forty years by several writers, combined with two significant mishaps/last minute changes ("oops, can't find the Romulan model, think someone stepped on it - just use the Klingon one instead" and "the villains of this movie are going to be Klingons, not Romulans, even though we already built a 'bird of prey'" ) to further confuse the issue.
Yes, Star Trek 3 robbed my people, twice.
First for flip flopping with the Klingons.
Second for theft of the iconic Bird of Prey. Damn thing still even had the features on the wings in the movie.
Their reasoning was they didn't want to "confuse" people. As for the model, you can blame the Prop Maker's Guild for that. Their actions were a direct result in Mr. Chang's model disappearing.
Comments
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
So... T5 connie argument in a different light? haha!
Romulan Institute
D'Galan - Engineer
Oops, sorry, I meant to put the sarcasm mark of [!] at the end to show I was joking.
That one is so stupid, he lost a Rock/Paper/Scissors game to a Pony.
Anyway, this is more along the lines of my dream ship:
The Romulan V-11 Stormbird Akif Class, developed from Klingon-made D7 Battle Cruisers. Just make it T5, give it the T'varo set (so it can hurl BIG RED ROMULAN BALLS OF DEATH and other projectiles while cloaked), and let me have 3 Commander BOff slots (one from each department), 2 Subcommander BOff slots, 2 Centurion BOff slots, and 2 Ensign BOff slots. Oh, and five forward weapons and four aft. With 2 half hangars to launch 2 wings each of 3 level 52 T'varo Light Warbirds.
And it comes with already elite level warbirds with the same stats as the elite JHAS pet but plasma, and instead of ramming speed, mini destabilized plasma torpedoes. And don't forget, the stormbird has a turn rate of 16, and has battle cloak and singularity powers with a power bonus instead of decrease.
Hold on there, that would be imbalanced. Why not instead simply give it the firepower of those invisible one-shot plasma torpedoes the Borg toss around, and also the hull strength of a Doomsday Machine? We have to keep this fair and balanced, after all.
I'd rather see some FASA designed Movie-Era birds
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/romulan/cruiser_v7.jpg
http://users.sisna.com/roguewing1/schematics/trek-klin-rom/wingedcommander.gif
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104113&d=1370982506
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/romulan/battleship_z1.jpg
The D7 Battle Cruiser (or more accurately, according to non-canonical sources, the V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird) is canonically associated with the Romulans as well. Of the two TOS episodes in which we got to see Romulans, "Balance of Power" has a single T'liss and "The Enterprise Incident" has (in the original edition) three V-11 Stormbird Akif warbirds (two in the digitally remastered edition, with a T'liss). The only female Romulan Commander (indeed, the only female Romulan at all) whom we saw in TOS was commanding a small fleet of V-11 Stormbird Akif Warbirds (in the original edition). The V-11 Stormbird Akif class Warbird is too iconic for Romulan females for me to not want it as a Romulan vessel.
The FASA designs cannot be used in STO, unless Cryptic/PWE can get the rights to use them, and that hasn't been something they've shown much interest in doing in the past.
Not that it'd be impossible. The Winged Defender class made it into a few video games. I'm just not sure Cryptic has the drive to pursue things like that.
A shame because I'd really like to see a Shrike-Class or Winged Defender Class in-game.
http://norsehound.deviantart.com/art/Romulan-Warbird-105351007
Wow.
Sexy ship.
^yeah what he said
Oh for crying out loud. Just going to quote Ex Astris Scientia on the subject.
Never mind the fact that it is utterly impossible to become an interstellar power of this nature without having FTL, and that if the T'liss in "Balance of Terror" didn't have FTL capability then how the hell did it get to the Neutral Zone in the first place?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Romulans had FTL capability before they left Vulcan.
There have been many many discussions about how to interpret Scotty's "Their power is simple impulse." But I think most everyone realizes that Romulans were able to attain FTL travel even before "Balance of Terror."
Personally, I like the one that says that the power consumption of using the cloaking device used too much energy for them to do both simultaneously, and leave it at that, with the alliance between the RSE and the Klingon Empire benefiting the RSE by enabling them to produce enough power to do both simultaneously.
Thats a whole lotta butthurt over not much.
No, that's a whole lot of "I can't stand willfully ignorant imbeciles."
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
butthurt by any other name is still butthurt
I always looked at is as the Federation didn't know what a Zero-point energy (Singularity) power source was since it does not emit like matter annihilation things like neutrinos. Scotty may have interpreted this as lacking a "warp core".
In reality; it's bad screen writing.
Romulan Institute
D'Galan - Engineer
Many thanks to D'Galan for this, and for his dedication to our fleet and the Rihan language.
Exactly. Bad writing piled on top of more bad writing, over the course of some forty years by several writers, combined with two significant mishaps/last minute changes ("oops, can't find the Romulan model, think someone stepped on it - just use the Klingon one instead" and "the villains of this movie are going to be Klingons, not Romulans, even though we already built a 'bird of prey'" ) to further confuse the issue.
Yes, Star Trek 3 robbed my people, twice.
First for flip flopping with the Klingons.
Second for theft of the iconic Bird of Prey. Damn thing still even had the features on the wings in the movie.
Their reasoning was they didn't want to "confuse" people. As for the model, you can blame the Prop Maker's Guild for that. Their actions were a direct result in Mr. Chang's model disappearing.
Romulan Institute
D'Galan - Engineer
Bresasam s'Tal'Diann - 2014-05-18