prime universe has 3 Engineer officers 1 lt tactical and 1 lit science... that's not favoring tactical either...
Okay, here's how it works. When a mirror ship comes into existence, it takes the two career types(tac/eng/sci) that the ship class does not specialize in and swaps them. Even though the Negh'Var didn't have THAT much tactical ability at first, it was still higher than science. The only possible option was to swap sci with tac. We're lucky to have even gotten a LtCmdr sci, as there was no LtCmdr tac for it to replace in the prime universe version.
Okay, here's how it works. When a mirror ship comes into existence, it takes the two career types(tac/eng/sci) that the ship class does not specialize in and swaps them. Even though the Negh'Var didn't have THAT much tactical ability at first, it was still higher than science. The only possible option was to swap sci with tac. We're lucky to have even gotten a LtCmdr sci, as there was no LtCmdr tac for it to replace in the prime universe version.
well im not making to big of a deal with it now after looking and comparing the 2.
This set of boxes are very sweet. I will save them up for a chance when I get around to open them. Along with the Dominion ones I saved up. I love the Escort version the best. Even the battlecruiser would be sweet.
Love the stats of the Mirror Cheyenne. If I don't find it in the box. Perhaps on the Exchange for a decent price. Sometimes those mirror ships are cheap. Plus this gives me the Cheyenne I thought of getting, without the huge investment from getting it from the Fleet.
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I wanted to pop in and let you know we discovered an error in the listed seating for the Hirogen Apex Heavy Battlecruiser. It was way off. The blog should be updated soon (if it hasn't already been updated). It is actually: Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science, Ensign Universal, Lieutenant Universal.
I wanted to TRIBBLE in and let you know we discovered an error in the listed seating. It was way off. The blog should be updated soon (if it hasn't already been updated). It is actually: Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science, Ensign Universal, Lieutenant Universal.
Sorry for the confusion!
Regards,
Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski
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First off, I believe you forgot to list 'Can mount Dual cannons' on the Mirror Negh'var.
Well, the Apex really looks glorious, commend the artist for me. And its stats aren't that bad either, (EDIT: As per Gorn's post, this was wrong in the blog) it's the uber special 1 Commander, 2 Lt Comm. , 1 Lt. and 2 Ensigns. I believe there's only the Orb Weaver like it. Also the hull and shields are respectable. I can see it as a very potent beamboat.
And the Mirror vessels aren't bad either.
The Heavy cruiser is an Ambassador with switched eng console to sci, little more turn and slightly less hull. Definitely useful for those that like the look (I guess there must be some) or those that missed on the last Anniversary Ambassador.
The Negh'var is a bulkier, slower version of the Kamarag, again with the 3-3-3 console slot setup.
And the Dhelan is basically one of the possibilities you can have on the Mogai (a possibility I didn't end up trying yet). Given I like the Mogai look better, well, I think this Mirror Dhelan doesn't have much to offer.
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Any chance the Enhanced Inertial Damper Field Universal Console will also fit Destroyers? Since that is what the Devs keep classifying all KDF non-Raptor Escort equivalents...
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I wanted to pop in and let you know we discovered an error in the listed seating for the Hirogen Apex Heavy Battlecruiser. It was way off. The blog should be updated soon (if it hasn't already been updated). It is actually: Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science, Ensign Universal, Lieutenant Universal.
Sorry for the confusion!
Regards,
Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski
but... why? that station setup style was good enough for the orb weaver and d'deridex? eh, this things not to special anymore. with 5 eng consoles and 6 turn rate, now its pretty deep in also ran territory
Also, as mentioned in the blog, the Apex can equip the console from the escort. It's got some pretty cool VFX when it does: because it's so large, when it's doing the "flip/ u-turn" (I think there are 3 different VFX for the "flip" that plays at random, btw), it fires off thrusters/ retro-rocket visuals from the sides since it would need that due to its size.
but... why? that station setup style was good enough for the orb weaver and d'deridex? eh, this things not to special anymore. with 5 eng consoles and 6 turn rate, now its pretty deep in also ran territory
Yeah, with that original boff layout, it was basically a carrier with no hangars, but cruiser weapons. That's actually interesting. That's something not present in STO.
But I guess we can't have things that are too interesting and unique.
Was really interested in the Apex until I saw it's stats. Been flying the c-store Mogh lately and really enjoying it but to me I think I might not buy the Apex now mainly due to only having the four fore weapon slots and the turn rate. A bit surprised at that considering it is called a battlecruiser, which normally are quite good on the turn rate at the expense of some hull.
"The Mirror Negh'Var Heavy Battle Cruiser favors science Bridge Officer Seating and Console Slots more than the Prime Universe version does."
nooooooo i wanted it to favor Tactical Bridge Officer Seating nooooooo why did you do this to meeee.
I think they did a great job, KDF need more science orientated vessels, while not a true science ship this is much better than a Vorcha clone. I might pick one of these up.
Also, as mentioned in the blog, the Apex can equip the console from the escort. It's got some pretty cool VFX when it does: because it's so large, when it's doing the "flip/ u-turn" (I think there are 3 different VFX for the "flip" that plays at random, btw), it fires off thrusters/ retro-rocket visuals from the sides since it would need that due to its size.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
So is the escort console account bound not character so we don't have to waste a second lock box ship on the one character?
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Also, as mentioned in the blog, the Apex can equip the console from the escort. It's got some pretty cool VFX when it does: because it's so large, when it's doing the "flip/ u-turn" (I think there are 3 different VFX for the "flip" that plays at random, btw), it fires off thrusters/ retro-rocket visuals from the sides since it would need that due to its size.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
it sounds nice and i dont wanna be the stat hungry guy here but well other than this nice looking ability, which already costs a console slot, its a not so special ship in the end..
you guys set the standards pretty high with the scim and i was hoping for something with a little more teeth to at least get closer to that for non-roms
Also, as mentioned in the blog, the Apex can equip the console from the escort. It's got some pretty cool VFX when it does: because it's so large, when it's doing the "flip/ u-turn" (I think there are 3 different VFX for the "flip" that plays at random, btw), it fires off thrusters/ retro-rocket visuals from the sides since it would need that due to its size.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
And that's the biggest disappointment with that console for me and the reason I won't be looking to get it.
Ships that actually need it (cruisers) can't use it, and ships that have the highest turn rate in the game don't need it all that much.
You let the Apex with 6 turn rate use it, but Odyssey, Bortasqu and other slow turners are left out.
My dream of a Dead Ringer Cloaking Device* in STO hasn't only come true but is better then what I thought of which only cloaks your ship while faking its destruction. The Alpha Deception Field cloaks your ship, fakes its destruction, and leaves behind a powerful trap.
*I got the name and idea from watching YouTube videos of people playing Dead Ringer Spy in Team Fortress 2.
The game to me just feels like we are falling back into the state of game prior to f2p. Where its more about profit profit and less about delivering playable (Star Trek) content.
Was really interested in the Apex until I saw it's stats. Been flying the c-store Mogh lately and really enjoying it but to me I think I might not buy the Apex now mainly due to only having the four fore weapon slots and the turn rate. A bit surprised at that considering it is called a battlecruiser, which normally are quite good on the turn rate at the expense of some hull.
I think they did a great job, KDF need more science orientated vessels, while not a true science ship this is much better than a Vorcha clone. I might pick one of these up.
So is the escort console account bound not character so we don't have to waste a second lock box ship on the one character?
check out the fleet kamarang, basically a fleet version of that mirror negvar
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Now that you made Hirogen Bridges, are we going to Trapped (Federation Romulan Storyline Mission) revised with this new set?
prime universe has 3 Engineer officers 1 lt tactical and 1 lt science... that's not favoring tactical either...
the Qu'Daj class of the battle cruiser gets a Mirror Coat of paint as well?
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However I honestly hope we'll see even more new Mirror Universe ships in the future, instead of the same old ones we've been getting for years now.
Oh please make the Mirror D'deridex next... I want that black hull material...
well im not making to big of a deal with it now after looking and comparing the 2.
that extra ensign tactical will have to do.
For god's sake, put it back in your pants!
Love the stats of the Mirror Cheyenne. If I don't find it in the box. Perhaps on the Exchange for a decent price. Sometimes those mirror ships are cheap. Plus this gives me the Cheyenne I thought of getting, without the huge investment from getting it from the Fleet.
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2 Lieutenant's 1 ensign 1 Lieutenant Commander and 1 Commander
It's only been one year since the mirror boxes came out, two years in July
I wanted to pop in and let you know we discovered an error in the listed seating for the Hirogen Apex Heavy Battlecruiser. It was way off. The blog should be updated soon (if it hasn't already been updated). It is actually: Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science, Ensign Universal, Lieutenant Universal.
Sorry for the confusion!
Regards,
Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski
No Milk and Cookies for Smirk before he gets to bed :P
Well, the Apex really looks glorious, commend the artist for me. And its stats aren't that bad either, (EDIT: As per Gorn's post, this was wrong in the blog) it's the uber special 1 Commander, 2 Lt Comm. , 1 Lt. and 2 Ensigns. I believe there's only the Orb Weaver like it. Also the hull and shields are respectable. I can see it as a very potent beamboat.
And the Mirror vessels aren't bad either.
The Heavy cruiser is an Ambassador with switched eng console to sci, little more turn and slightly less hull. Definitely useful for those that like the look (I guess there must be some) or those that missed on the last Anniversary Ambassador.
The Negh'var is a bulkier, slower version of the Kamarag, again with the 3-3-3 console slot setup.
And the Dhelan is basically one of the possibilities you can have on the Mogai (a possibility I didn't end up trying yet). Given I like the Mogai look better, well, I think this Mirror Dhelan doesn't have much to offer.
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but... why? that station setup style was good enough for the orb weaver and d'deridex? eh, this things not to special anymore. with 5 eng consoles and 6 turn rate, now its pretty deep in also ran territory
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
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Yeah, with that original boff layout, it was basically a carrier with no hangars, but cruiser weapons. That's actually interesting. That's something not present in STO.
But I guess we can't have things that are too interesting and unique.
Most likely not.
I think they did a great job, KDF need more science orientated vessels, while not a true science ship this is much better than a Vorcha clone. I might pick one of these up.
So is the escort console account bound not character so we don't have to waste a second lock box ship on the one character?
it sounds nice and i dont wanna be the stat hungry guy here but well other than this nice looking ability, which already costs a console slot, its a not so special ship in the end..
you guys set the standards pretty high with the scim and i was hoping for something with a little more teeth to at least get closer to that for non-roms
And that's the biggest disappointment with that console for me and the reason I won't be looking to get it.
Ships that actually need it (cruisers) can't use it, and ships that have the highest turn rate in the game don't need it all that much.
You let the Apex with 6 turn rate use it, but Odyssey, Bortasqu and other slow turners are left out.
Wasted opportunity.
*I got the name and idea from watching YouTube videos of people playing Dead Ringer Spy in Team Fortress 2.
check out the fleet kamarang, basically a fleet version of that mirror negvar