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time for more klingon ship love - again ?

czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
edited January 2014 in Klingon Discussion
every klingon player is glad for new kligon ship - mogh, but need to say, it was just needed move to offset fed avenger.
I think it is time for some more kligon counterparts to otehr fed ships (or soem with unique abilities) - first come to min is klingon version of delta shutle - by many best shutle in game now (and no i dont want it nerfed).
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  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Season 8.5 is gonna release new kingon bird of prey, is that not enough?
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    saxfire wrote: »
    Season 8.5 is gonna release new kingon bird of prey, is that not enough?

    Not confirmed. Unless you know something I don't. Source?

    OP: I think the first counterpart ship that is needed is an escort carrier type ship. Most would prefer it to be Ferasan in design, looking something like this.:
    http://www.klingon-empire.org/photopost/data/500/Kzinti_vessel_c2150s.jpg
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    saxfire wrote: »
    Season 8.5 is gonna release new kingon bird of prey, is that not enough?

    thats it? just one bop?

    not sure on the anniversary gift for the kdf, so thats open. beyond that just another glass cannon and nothing else. hardly what you would call context. no it's not enough considering what cryptic could do to bring the kdf more in line. i mean the hairstyles, clothing choices and such would be helpful.

    also notice the difference in head ridges, hair and other things.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nausicaan

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon
    - discount jjcrap.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Slar
    - notice the gorn looks more dinosaur and reptile like

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Gorn#Captain
    - notice the brow bridge

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Orions_(22nd_century)
    - various clothing, metal attachments to males and the male corset

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrad-Sar
    - facial spikes, clothing

    and that is just a little research into getting more stuff in the character customization screen. then there is the storyline that is missing. yeah its not enough considering.
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  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Not confirmed. Unless you know something I don't. Source?

    OP: I think the first counterpart ship that is needed is an escort carrier type ship. Most would prefer it to be Ferasan in design, looking something like this.:
    http://www.klingon-empire.org/photopost/data/500/Kzinti_vessel_c2150s.jpg

    Rly ISNT, fed have cca 2x more ships than klingons and even romulasn have more ships than klingons, so i tink it is realy tiem to try to even numbers.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    Rly ISNT, fed have cca 2x more ships than klingons and even romulasn have more ships than klingons, so i tink it is realy tiem to try to even numbers.

    I agree with you. What I was saying was that the first ship that should be considered for the KDF should be a counterpart to the HEC. The Roms got one, why not us? I recomended the Ferasan design, because the Ferasans don't have a ship yet, and it would be in line with them being more aggressive Caitians. (Caitians use a full carrier.)
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  • praxian2012praxian2012 Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    it's all been said, but this guy here supports more Klingon content!

    +1 Thread. :)
  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    No. The game should be completely revamped with a modified Crysis engine, every other faction stripped down to the bare minimal needed to fulfill their roles as "disruptor fodder", and the game renamed to "Eternal Glory of the Klingon Empire Online". Then it will be enough.

    Your a genious!!! LOL you are SO right... They will never stop ********. Just ignore them. Just because politicians have to give a TRIBBLE about every minuscule unimportant minority doesn't mean we have too!
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  • solidshatnersolidshatner Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    samt296 wrote: »
    Your a genious!!! LOL you are SO right... They will never stop ********. Just ignore them. Just because politicians have to give a TRIBBLE about every minuscule unimportant minority doesn't mean we have too!

    Um . . . so you represent the FEDERATION? And you Captain a FEDERATION ship??? Too bad - that was said like a true KLINGON.


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  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Um . . . so you represent the FEDERATION? And you Captain a FEDERATION ship??? Too bad - that was said like a true KLINGON.


    Qua'pla!

    You know ironically your right! I don't know if this is what you meant but I got this... True Klingons take life by ankles rather than complaining like lilly livered 3-legged targs who've got about as much backbone as a politician... I'm too busy to think up some creative way to insult their honor so just imagine me throwing a horribly scathing insult about how Klingon behave on the forums and we'll be done...

    Yeah im a FED but I fly my BADASS S'Golth Escort!

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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Is "Klingon" actually the word for Klingon in Klingon? You never hear the word "Klingon" when Klingons speak Klingon. And if Klingon is just a racial designation used by other species, why does Worf refer to himself as a Klingon. It's like Native Americans calling themselves "Indians".

    No it is not. The proper word is tlhIngan Hol, but to keep the feds from being chuckled at when they flub it we dont mind being called Klingon. But smile when you say it.
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  • furiontassadarfuriontassadar Member Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    No it is not. The proper word is tlhIngan Hol, but to keep the feds from being chuckled at when they flub it we dont mind being called Klingon. But smile when you say it.

    It could be worse. As I understand it, Romulans actually refer to themselves as Rihannsu; hence why New Romulus is referred to as Mol'Rihan here and there in the game. If I remember correctly, the name "Romulan" actually has negative connotations.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It could be worse. As I understand it, Romulans actually refer to themselves as Rihannsu; hence why New Romulus is referred to as Mol'Rihan here and there in the game. If I remember correctly, the name "Romulan" actually has negative connotations.

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    If one did not know that translators exist one may think think the Humans where being snobish
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    No. The game should be completely revamped with a modified Crysis engine, every other faction stripped down to the bare minimal needed to fulfill their roles as "disruptor fodder", and the game renamed to "Eternal Glory of the Klingon Empire Online". Then it will be enough.

    Seems legit. ;)
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    czertik123 wrote: »
    every klingon player is glad for new kligon ship - mogh, but need to say, it was just needed move to offset fed avenger.
    I think it is time for some more kligon counterparts to otehr fed ships (or soem with unique abilities) - first come to min is klingon version of delta shutle - by many best shutle in game now (and no i dont want it nerfed).

    totally agree. would love to see more kdf love!!

    personally ship wise I wont be happy until I can fly a fleet k'vort.
    the mogh was nice but I actually wanted a negh'var refit. I was hoping the mogh was the equivalent to the feds 'regent' would have been fairly apt actually considering in the mirror universe worf son of mogh was the..... regent. small link the powers that be totally missed. mogh was just that horrible avenger equivalent instead *sigh* :(

    without giving the kdf, romulans or even the cardassians any love how do they expect any one to ever play them.

    star wars games I've played past and present swg and tor respectively each side was always fleshed out equally and that explains why both side are extremely popular. and it's not a 1 sided game.

    sadly I get the feeling that the dev teams mains are all... feds. I would love to see the devs post and say I'm a Klingon thru and thru or I'm a green blooded romulan till I die. also I'd love to know their fav ship in game and ship they would like to see. is there some dev agents out there waiting for cardassians ?
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Is "Klingon" actually the word for Klingon in Klingon? You never hear the word "Klingon" when Klingons speak Klingon. And if Klingon is just a racial designation used by other species, why does Worf refer to himself as a Klingon. It's like Native Americans calling themselves "Indians".

    The Klingon (thlIngan Hohl) word for Klingon is thlIngan. It's used like we would use "Human". Klingons have a lot of species pride, hence Worf always saying "I am a Klingon!"

    Also, re: your previous post. There is no glory in killing a defenseless foe. Honor is won by fighting as the underdog. Truly, today is a good day to die!

    I will admit, though, that some sci vessel parity would be nice. How about a Phalanx retrofit, or some other t5 ship, like a KDF reskin of the Vesta?
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Mmm... you know why? Because it's Star Trek! A show about the UFP, (Humans) encountering, and dealing with, aliens. The audience only needs to know enough about the aliens in order to advance the plotline. Seriously, Klingon players like to complain that there isn't enough Klingon stuff in the game. Well, we basically have everything Klingon alluded to in the series/movies, in the game. We even have Klingon farmers FFS! A violent, hegemonic, race of conquerors, has farmers! The only way to add more Klingon content to STO, is to let Cryptic start making s**t up. When you do that, you get Klingon farmers.

    YOU SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR OUR EMPIRE'S FARMERS!

    They may not fight with swords to defend their homes and families, but they fight the greatest of foes--Qo'nos itself, with its harsh climate and unforgiving seasons--with nothing better than farming tools!

    Seriously, man. A species that literally does nothing but fight is going to die out very quickly. CF the koloss in Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. Klingon culture is very similar to medieval Norse and early Sumerian and Greek culture, with a focus on epics, heroes, and a farming economic base supplemented by raiding.

    Please actually think before you diss the Empire. ThlIngan maH!
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Ghengis Khan conquered all of Asia save Japan, and half of Europe, by doing exactly this. Problem was he ran out of enemies to fight, and got old.

    Nope. His mooks were herding and hunting when he wasn't fighting. His armies had camp followers, suppliers, people with important animals like sheep, camels, and goats, and cooks. You CANNOT run an armor on scavenged supplies alone; pretty soon your enemies will retreat after destroying all supplies, and your minions will starve.

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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    So we just call them Romulans, and Remans because... they remind us of Romans? What do the Remans call themselves?

    Harvannsu, if memory serves. Remus is semi-canonically called ch'Harvan. Just as Romulus is supposed to be ch'Rihan.

    Although, Remans may use "Reman" due to "Harvannsu" having Romulan connotations.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    OP has a point. KDF need more love. None of this "when we can do it" stuff. I want KDF love weekly.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Don't they have bars that you can go to for that sort of thing?

    probably. but only in nevada.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Can you post that phonetically, in English?

    tlh [tˡɬ]
    This is a tough one to describe. Put your tongue in position to say a "t," but instead of pulling the tip of your tongue away from your palate, drop the sides, sort of like what happens near the end of the word "waddle" in English. This should leave you in position to say an "l," but make sure you don't use your voice: whisper the "l"; hiss it out between your teeth. The dropping of the sides of your tongue should be done forcefully; this is another spitter.

    I [ɪ]
    Like the "i" sound in English "bit."

    ng [ŋ]
    The same sound as occurs at the end of English "thing," only in Klingon it can also come at the beginnings of words. Be careful when starting a word or syllable with this sound. It's against the rules of English, and it may take some practice

    a [a]
    Like the "a" sound in English "father." Never like in "acid" (American pronunciation).

    n[n]
    Like in English "nose" or "any."

    H [x]
    A harsh sound in the throat, found in German (as in "Bach") or the Hebrew toast "l'chayim." Make sure you pronounce this harshly and unvoiced.

    o [o]
    Like in English "note" or "mosaic." As with other letters, don't get distracted by English words spelled with the same letters. The Klingon word not sounds like English "note," not like "not" (which in Klingon lettering would be spelled nat).

    l [l]
    Like in English "lunch."

    Or look here for the entire alphabet Sounds of Klingon
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