test content
  • Games
  • Social
  • Arc News
  • Support
  • Zen
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Forums > Home› Feedback› Klingon Discussion

Why no female Gorn, Nausicaan or Lethean BOffs?

pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Klingon Discussion
I know, I know ... they'd certainly be among the ugliest female aliens in the Trek universe, but I really don't see why we can't have female Gorn, Nausicaan and Lethean BOffs in STO.

Sure, I can make a female "Alien" BOff who kinda looks like one of these species, but I don't get the unique traits for Gorn, Nausicaan or Letheans.

Come on, devs. You gave us Reman female (which we never saw on screen in any Trek TV show or movie) so why not give us females from these KDF species?

My male Gorn Captain is lonely. ;)
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."

Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Post edited by pweistheworst on
«134

Comments

  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Who's to say they have females like you think?

    Gorn are lizards. Lizard male and female look just about identical. Nausicaan and Lethean may not have a female at all. Consider the Jem'Hadar and Horta, who are genetically engineered and cloned. They probably don't even have reproductive organs.
  • pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm fine if the devs want to make the females from these three species look exactly like the males ... just with the "female" label in the description to differentiate them. I'm not looking for more eye candy in the game ... I just think it's silly we don't see females of these three species in the game and there's no good reason the females should be absent.

    Also, I'm pretty sure there was an episode of Enterprise where Dr. Phlox mentioned female Nausicaans have an adrenal gland that smells like human female sweat or some such nonsense. Anyway, my point is that female Nausicaans exist and there's no good reason why we can't have them in the game as BOffs.
    In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."

    Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    Who's to say they have females like you think?
    How do you know how he or she thinks? The facts is, Gorns, Nausicaans or Letheans don't have a character creation option for female. Even if female versions of those species look exactly like the males(and I doubt that they do, but that's just me), there would still be the possibility of an option to make females of those species. Hell, it would be a cakewalk for the devs if that were true - all they'd have to do is copy/paste the males into the female options, and boom.

    But that isn't the case.

    Most likely explination for the Gorn I've heard is, those larger NPC Gorn are females, but aren't options because they simply can't fit into starships.
    U.S.S.%20Mastermind%20Signature_zpsgsyjxxz1.jpg~original
    Helpful Tools: Dictionary.com - Logical fallacies - Random generator - Word generator - Color tool - Extra Credits - List of common English language errors - New T6 Big booty tutorial
  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    For that matter why are there not other sexes on some of the aliens, they are alien after all. So far the Andorians are the only race in the game with non standard genders.
    New home of the Romulan Republic.
    I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
    I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
    I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited January 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Most likely explination for the Gorn I've heard is, those larger NPC Gorn are females, but aren't options because they simply can't fit into starships.

    But then how did all the female gorn get to Q'onos if not by starship?

    actually female Gorn and Nausicaan Boffs are in game apparently but only if you are fed and have reached the rank of Ambassador. (which must mean there is a player usable model floating around somewhere)

    Jiro Sugihara Ambassador Boff awards

    That would also shoot down the female Gorn are too big to be on Starships idea, more likely that kdf was rushed to be finished before launch and afterwards the problems were not corrected till recently. Hopefully, this will be an issue a future patch solves.


    PS devs, Still waiting for that KDF uniform fix having 25-50% of uniforms unaccessible is just frustrating.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited January 2014
    This content has been removed.
  • kublahkankublahkan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Canon-wise, if they allowed Ferengi females into the game, there should be females for Gorns, Nausicaans and Letheans.

    Cheers
    "Starship captains are like children. They want everything right now and they want it their way. The secret is to give them what they need, not what they want."
    - Scotty, to La Forge
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    They added female Pakled, Sarian, and Tellarite in game but completely shafted the KDF. I for one would make female Nausicaan for sure if I had the option, for the awesome armor!
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kapla1755 wrote: »
    But then how did all the female gorn get to Q'onos if not by starship?
    In the cargo bays. Of course. =p
    kapla1755 wrote: »
    actually female Gorn and Nausicaan Boffs are in game apparently but only if you are fed and have reached the rank of Ambassador. (which must mean there is a player usable model floating around somewhere)

    Jiro Sugihara Ambassador Boff awards
    That list must be outdated, because in-game there's no female Gorn or Nausicaan BOFF rewards there.
    U.S.S.%20Mastermind%20Signature_zpsgsyjxxz1.jpg~original
    Helpful Tools: Dictionary.com - Logical fallacies - Random generator - Word generator - Color tool - Extra Credits - List of common English language errors - New T6 Big booty tutorial
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    In the cargo bays. Of course. =p

    That list must be outdated, because in-game there's no female Gorn or Nausicaan BOFF rewards there.
    Yeah. I double checked in person. There are no female options for diplomacy Gorn or Nausicaans.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    My character Tsin'xing
    Costume_marhawkman_Tsin%27xing_CC_Comic_Page_Blue_488916968.jpg
  • bladewolf5bladewolf5 Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    i always thought they must have women's rights issues, culture thing, i guess they are not allow to go to work.:D
  • alan171717alan171717 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    bladewolf5 wrote: »
    i always thought they must have women's rights issues, culture thing, i guess they are not allow to go to work.:D

    I see no reason why that would be true, I mean, at least in the Nausican case.

    Anyway, I see a lot of problems with the genders of STO, like how all the Tholians are listed with a gender, and from what I saw, same with Xindi-Insectoid. And the Breen, probably one of the most equal societies, doesn't have female DOFFs or BOFFs.
    "I am a travelor of both time and space to be where I have been"
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    That's OK, My Gorn Bridge Officers are more useful to me without broken limbs and crushed rib cages.
    If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
    Oh Hell NO to ARC
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I wish we had the gorn from that JJ game.
    King of Lions rawr! Protect the wildlife of the world. Check out my foundry series Perfection and Scars of the Pride. arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1138650/ashkrik23s-foundry-missions
    ashkrik_by_lindale_ff-d65zc3i.png
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I wish we had the gorn from that JJ game.

    Are you serious??? :eek:
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I wish we had the gorn from that JJ game.

    Siriusly?!
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    shurato2099 wrote:
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    thegalaxy31 wrote: »
    Siriusly?!

    Problem?
    10chars.
    King of Lions rawr! Protect the wildlife of the world. Check out my foundry series Perfection and Scars of the Pride. arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1138650/ashkrik23s-foundry-missions
    ashkrik_by_lindale_ff-d65zc3i.png
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Problem?
    10chars.

    BIG problem! We refuse to believe you. ;)
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I can deal with handwaving Gorn females as a reptile thing, but I do kinda wish they'd add female Nausicaans and Letheans.
    CD6tmmY.gif
    I Support Disco | Disco is Love | Disco is Life
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    BIG problem! We refuse to believe you. ;)

    Refuse all you want. I like the new Gorn more. I always like stuff others don't.
    King of Lions rawr! Protect the wildlife of the world. Check out my foundry series Perfection and Scars of the Pride. arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1138650/ashkrik23s-foundry-missions
    ashkrik_by_lindale_ff-d65zc3i.png
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I think I postulated it before, but I would like it if the smaller more intelligent Nausicaans from ENT were the females.

    As for Gorn I like the 'no external difference so just copy and paste' plan.

    But Letheans? Who plays them anyway? Just stick a set of TRIBBLE on them.
    22762792376_ac7c992b7c_o.png
    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    I think I postulated it before, but I would like it if the smaller more intelligent Nausicaans from ENT were the females.

    As for Gorn I like the 'no external difference so just copy and paste' plan.

    But Letheans? Who plays them anyway? Just stick a set of TRIBBLE on them.

    Their faces didn't look very feminine :P

    But I wouldn't mind if they took the ENT Nausicaan as a basis for the females...I always kinda liked the Nausicaan, they seemed to have a little more color to them if I recall.
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Their faces didn't look very feminine :P

    You kidding, they are a hot piece of...:o
    Hhmm... um aliens :D .
    22762792376_ac7c992b7c_o.png
    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Their faces didn't look very feminine :P
    And Tellarites do? :D
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    My character Tsin'xing
    Costume_marhawkman_Tsin%27xing_CC_Comic_Page_Blue_488916968.jpg
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It's because you're KDF and you don't buy your ships with cash like the Fed suckers do. :P
    [SIGPIC]http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=94154940000&dateline=1390007378[/SIGPIC]
  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    Who's to say they have females like you think?

    Gorn are lizards. Lizard male and female look just about identical. Nausicaan and Lethean may not have a female at all. Consider the Jem'Hadar and Horta, who are genetically engineered and cloned. They probably don't even have reproductive organs.

    Leathans are reptiles as well.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Aren't Saurians also Reptiles? Somebody goofed there, unless those particular parts of a saurian females anatomy aren't a mammary gland.
    If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
    Oh Hell NO to ARC
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Sticking to the entirely Earth-based idea that reptiles don't have TRIBBLE is a bit narrow-minded in an IP that contains sentient rocks and space jellyfish. You kind of need to take it case by case.

    Gorn, I think, would work better thematically if females were simply larger, and perhaps also had a different set of head spikes for further optional visual differentiation. They're one of the few races we've seen that could be called "radically different" than the common humanoid archetype we see in Trek, so giving them sexes that fall outside that norm aesthetically is sensible.

    Nausicaans and Letheans are much more humanoid in appearance. They aren't excessively larger than humans or have any other traits that sets them drastically apart from humanoids (beyond the rubber masks, anyway). There's no real reason they couldn't have females as we know them.
    CD6tmmY.gif
    I Support Disco | Disco is Love | Disco is Life
  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited January 2014
    I want an extra large female Gorn in the Warrior's Decorated skirt and the Orion bikini top doing the Nimbus Fan Dance just to hear the cries of "Oh my eyes, my eyes make it stop" :P
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    I think I postulated it before, but I would like it if the smaller more intelligent Nausicaans from ENT were the females.

    As for Gorn I like the 'no external difference so just copy and paste' plan.

    But Letheans? Who plays them anyway? Just stick a set of TRIBBLE on them.

    I do for one and there are quite a few others to. Plus Letheans are reptilian so TRIBBLE would make as much sense as gorn females having them.
Sign In or Register to comment.