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sacha32
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Hello,
I'm A active player for a long time. And i'd like to say somthing to cryptic. I'm a lifetime subscriber and als i use a lot of the ZEN exchange and buy stuff from STO. But i whant to say that STO Doesn't do enough for the playsers , where they make a lot of money from. Server fallouts, bugs, etc @ game that cost 500 EUr a month , must work . Whe donate a lot of real money into the game and as reward whe got DL or EC, but by giving that money, whe make sure other players get the same chances whe do. Therefore i ask Cryptic, when does the time come you reward vetran players and players that often buy with real money ZEN with new items or ships. Gamming comes in a two way world. Without our money, there is no STO. Think about thanking people, and somtimes mail them a thx or give them something special. It makes evrything a whole fun and respectfull. @ 500 ZEN free from cryptic lookes cheap, srr
Greetings
SachaKim
I'm A active player for a long time. And i'd like to say somthing to cryptic. I'm a lifetime subscriber and als i use a lot of the ZEN exchange and buy stuff from STO. But i whant to say that STO Doesn't do enough for the playsers , where they make a lot of money from. Server fallouts, bugs, etc @ game that cost 500 EUr a month , must work . Whe donate a lot of real money into the game and as reward whe got DL or EC, but by giving that money, whe make sure other players get the same chances whe do. Therefore i ask Cryptic, when does the time come you reward vetran players and players that often buy with real money ZEN with new items or ships. Gamming comes in a two way world. Without our money, there is no STO. Think about thanking people, and somtimes mail them a thx or give them something special. It makes evrything a whole fun and respectfull. @ 500 ZEN free from cryptic lookes cheap, srr
Greetings
SachaKim
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btw cryptic doesnt answer these types of opinions related to entitlement so youre just one the latest in a long line of players who is attacking that dead horse.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
It's really simple when you think about it:
For a LTS, you get 500 Zen pr month, Game-Lifetime access, as it is, to the game with subscriber benefits for all existing and new characters.
For all the Zen you've bought, you get described access to whatever you buy from the C-Store.
Basically, you've gotten everything you've payed for.
But in the end, no one has forced you to pay a cent, and TBH, 500 Euros pr month... That's kinda nuts, isn't it? Thats more than I spend for putting food on the table for me, my GF and my 2 kids each month.
they gave away free items in the summer event,
had a promotion that gave away free c-store items,
gave away a free ship and equipment before season 8,
had a lobi event where players could get 500 lobi for playing missions,
a CE event with increased marks, dilithium etc,
the winter event gives away free ships, weapons and clothes for minimal work,
the eppoh mark converter is giving you 100-200 marks per day, per character on as many characters as you like for minimal work.
the anniversary is coming and will offer more free stuff.
they gave away a free bird of prey to klingons.
this is on top of the fact you never have to pay for anything. all the mission content is free. its a player choice to spend money.
people dont donate money to the game (well they can but that is their choice). what people do is buy stuff they want. you want something, you buy it. its a simple transaction. i dont see why they should reward people simply for wanting stuff, beyond what they already are giving.
i got lts just before lor came out at 150 pounds when it was on discount, at the time i also had bills to pay. i have gotten about half of the total value out of it and in a few months presumably when arc comes with no other choice i will get 3/4 of the value from it, assuming i can avoid arc entirely and play the game from steam then i can get the remaining 1/4 value. but it was worth the price though.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Not exactly sure why you are quoting me... My post was minded at the OP...
I might have missed a point thouhg... wouldn be any news in that.
reyan mentioned better then i could of in regards to your quote.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
So basically: We are in agreement?
Veteran rewards?
500 Zen roughly $5 a month?
access to certain area's which i believe aren't even used?
unlimited EC cap.
extra dilth refinement? i think im not to sure 1000 dilth extra each day? (some talk about it but posts say it's a haggle on it's own)
did i also mention Veteran rewards? free gear, free ships... that can only be obtained by being a sub or a LTS who knows when they'll add more items just for them.
hell im not even a sub or a lts and i'd be happy with all that alone.
Kyuzos7 sums it up quite nicely:
We get quite a great deal of benefits, ON TOP of the general free give aways...
Heck, we even get the ability to get a ton of dil merely by turning in the marks and Items we get for completing "elite" content, that in turn allows us to use other peoples money for zen.
Supporting the game via cstore is basically the only mean without any type of vet rewards. LTS/subscribers have the Vet Rewards, gamblers get lobi - cstore is lacking a comparable component.
doesnt need my answer as you already deduced it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Why give something to the rich when you can give it to everyone? I'm just not a fan of saying you get a reward for the fact you have money to splash. Its no skin off my nose if people who pay nothing get the same rewards I do. The subscriber rewards, you are effectively paying for them specifically, but i dont think there should be a bar that says spend x and get y.
Neverwinter actually does do something like this, if you buy zen in bulk and i dont really approve of it.
I spend big in this game, and it would be very easy for me to say 'I deserve this' but I really want everyone who plays to benefit. I don't need a pat on the head for having money and being willing to part with it.
These rewards are thanks for playing, not thanks for spending, with the hope the people who dont spend, start to.
As has been mentioned,yes you do get free ships and free stuff,but its mostly all junk,and you have to spend money to improve what you have.
I know that you don't have to spend a penny on this game,but lets face it,if you did'nt.it would take many months if not years to get anywhere. Cryptic know this.
Its only dedicated startrek fans who end up finding the money,to buy better items in the game,and even then,ships,weapons and items that you can buy, are very very expensive.
It may be wishful thinking,but one day it would be nice if there were generous reductions,to make it more affordable
The only reason it takes "months" (wich it does not btw), to get enough for anything through farming, is because other people decide the price on Dil for Zen (Or so cryptic keeps insisting).
If people would sell for less, people would also have to spend less time farming.
Guessed you've never played games like Battlestar Galactica Online, world of tanks or the like. Where every year WarGamming gives you a tier 2 tank. STOL gives you for every anniversary and for the winter events END GAME SHIPS. Granted not the VERY best, but still very workable useable ships.
And you want to complain about it. Seriously go play another game and realize how much PWE literally gives away.
I mean jesus this year alone: Ambassador tier 5, Obisesk Carrier, the Lobi giveaway, Winter wonder land and either the breen cruiser or raider.
Last year alone 3 tier 5 ships. And you want to complain about it? GTFO.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
This game is not perfect we all know that it has its problems and bugs but I love logging in to play sto This is my entertainment and do I feel im owed more just because I pay for it no.
Only thing im asking cryptic to do is to release my romulan alt from his load screen prision that he's been placed in the last three days. I promise he'll be good just let him beam down to new romulas without crashing please please please i'll give you back the free ships you gave me this year???
Everyone who has spent even a dollar here deserves a bug free game. But you have 2 choices --- more content faster, or less bugs. The market seems to have decided that a few bugs can be tolerated.
You're getting 500 Zen a month and a ton of bank and inventory slots, free respecs, and lots of other nice bonuses. Since I bought LTS before the game went F2P, I was honestly pretty shocked when I saw how little bank space free players get.
The little things you take for granted are your thanks. It's a game, stop playing it if you're not happy.
And fleet versions of the vet ships.
Its just like that saying "They don't build them like they used to"
Good one. Oh wait- you're actually serious?
I bought STO on CD back before Steam or Arc came out (hence I don't have to worry about using either of them
Regarding the op, you do get something extra for spending money: you get whatever it is you bought. Ships or keys or whatever. And when calculating how fast a lts pays for itself, remember a few things. You permenantly get a skill and expertise point boost that's in constant effect with no limit. That's a super version of the z store items that temporarily raise the amount of skill points you earn, and I assume they stack. Next you get the ship. You can guestimate its worth in zen by comparing its stats to other z store ships, but whatever the value is you get a VA level zstore-esque ship. Next the aforemeantioned 1k dil refinement every 2 days is worth some amount of zen each 2 days comparable to whatever zen/dil is going for in the exchange. Next you unlock the liberated borg race with I say is worth an amount of zen equal to something similar to what the other buyable races go for. You get the android special boff which is worth some amount similar to what those zstore / lobi store special boffs are worth.
I could go on but I'm getting too tired to think. The point is a lts pays for itself faster than one might assume.