My god did you even WATCH Nemsis. Data transferred his entire self into B4's neural Matrix. At first data thought he failed. But that song he is singing, it's one data was LEARNING BEFORE THAT BODY WAS DESTROYED.
Don't you get it? Data transferred his contentiousness over to B4. And it's starting to manifest.
But wait we're in your universe where only your logic[or lack there of] is what you see.
God you're so blind to things it's a wonder you don't run into brick walls.
You folks are incurable.
As a quick note, your firm assertion that Data was saved is controversial, at best. B-4 was vastly inferior to Data, and showed major signs of robotic retardation. B-4's partial recovery of some of Data's (the word you're looking for is) consciousness is iffy proof of anything. And if you look at Picard's melancholic face, you could just as well say he's realizing that B-4, despite the song, will never be more than a pale shadow of the Data we knew.
Well, that's a shame. After 20 years of enjoying Star Trek (since I was five) from TOS to Abrams (although, obviously much less love for Abrams), sitting here in my study in front of my extensive collection of Star Trek books, under the gaze of my Enterprise-D portrait, with my Kirk vs Gorn figurines next to my PC speakers, having just looked up the train arrangements for my trip to the Destination Star Trek: Germany convention, typing on a Star Trek MMO forum, drinking a cup of tea given to me in my Star Trek mug by my Trekkie wife; it turns out that because I was born after 1969 I can't possibly be a true Star Trek fan.
Oh well, suppose I better hang up my combadge and accept the facts... -_-
I have the same problem with Transformers..... I happen to have a collection of original G1, many Masterpiece figures, Binaltech and a collection of every Transformers cartoon from original G1 to Prime..... including the animated movie.... but since I like Michael Bay's version I'm not really a "true fan". Apparently in both franchises, to some, if you like too much (or the wrong type) of the franchise... you suddenly are no longer a fan.
As a quick note, your firm assertion that Data was saved is controversial, at best. B-4 was vastly inferior to Data, and showed major signs of robotic retardation. B-4's partial recovery of some of Data's (the word you're looking for is) consciousness is iffy proof of anything. And if you look at Picard's melancholic face, you could just as well say he's realizing that B-4, despite the song, will never be more than a pale shadow of the Data we knew.
And yet STO's backstory in The Path to 2409 clearly states that not only did Data's consciousness assert itself, he also upgraded the B-4 body's circuitry.
As far as STO is concerned, canon. Deal with it.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
And I answer that with this clip from near the end of the exact same film, where B-4 sings the exact song Data sang at Will and Deanna's wedding reception at the beginning. This is the sequel hook that STO used to bring Data back from the dead.
You can go Fxxk this and go Kiss your A$$.
Anatomically impossible, age03. But you're welcome to try.
(Bonus points if you get the reference. )
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I thought he was a higher Mk than that. Let me google it. IMDB, you are correct he is a Mk II, i was wrongly assumed.
For the person who keeps arguing data.....
In the film Star Trek: Nemesis, Data beams Picard off an enemy ship before destroying it, sacrificing himself, saving the captain and crew of the Enterprise. However, Data previously copied his core memories into B-4, Data's lost brother who is introduced in the movie. This was done with the reluctant help of Geordi LaForge who voiced concerns about how this could cause B-4 to be nothing more than an exact duplicate of Data.
In the comic book miniseries Star Trek: Countdown (the official prequel to the reboot Star Trek film), Data, having successfully transferred his positronic pathways and memories into B-4, now commands the Enterprise-E in its mission to stop the Romulan Nero. Spock compares Data's "resurrection" with his own death and return years earlier.[10]
In the book series Data is returned by having his memories and neural net transferred from B4 into a new body which contained the memory engrams of Data's creator Doctor Noonian Soong after he was dying and being attacked by Lore years earlier. Data then takes control of the body after Soong deletes himself. After a tearful reunion with his old ship mates Picard offers to reactivate Data's commission and to rejoin the crew but Data declines as he says he requires time.
Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
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You do know Star Trek: First Contact was #1 for its opening weekend? Also, It is #6 in 1996 for highest gross weekend. The movie grossed $92,027,888 domestically and $54,000,000 foreign, for a total of $146,027,888 worldwide. That was all from the site you provided if you just opened your eyes and read it.
Again, First Contact didn't lose money. While it might have not done great, it did well because it was made for Star Trek fans not the lowest common denominator like JJTrek.
Ok, just to solve the debate: the Enterprise-E's fate is still in the air, but it's implied destroyed in the the story im using as proof.
An Unexpected Honor by Christine "Kestral" Thompson of Cryptic Studios dealing with Captain Shon getting his blessing from Professor Data at Oxford.
His return was also covered in the Star Trek Online novel The Needs of the Many and in the Path to 2409.
As far as STO is concerned, Data lives but is a Civilian now. The Enterprise-E? Possibly destroyed. I remember something from Al Rivera (I think) about CBS vetoing them to explore the end of the ENT-E, and just make theirs.
And yet STO's backstory in The Path to 2409 clearly states that not only did Data's consciousness assert itself, he also upgraded the B-4 body's circuitry.
As far as STO is concerned, canon. Deal with it.
LOL. I should have known better than to get drawn into this obsessive nerd/fandom. Anyway, I don't have to 'deal with it,' as I don't care either way.
And since when is The Path to 2409 canon? And since when STO, for that matter?
LOL. I should have known better than to get drawn into this obsessive nerd/fandom. Anyway, I don't have to 'deal with it,' as I don't care either way.
And since when is The Path to 2409 canon? And since when STO, for that matter?
I meant it's canon to STO.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
A true Star Trek fan would know how to spell petaQ properly.
(On a side note, see how stupid the argument sounds when somebody else uses it?)
And I answer that with [url=http://youtu.be/S02T1j9qzwg[/url]this clip from near the end of the exact same film[/url], where B-4 sings the exact song Data sang at Will and Deanna's wedding reception at the beginning. This is the sequel hook that STO used to bring Data back from the dead.
Anatomically impossible, age03. But you're welcome to try.
(Bonus points if you get the reference. )
You provide no friggin prooof what so f ever.It is P'Taq.That is Data it is 404 error.
LOL. I should have known better than to get drawn into this obsessive nerd/fandom. Anyway, I don't have to 'deal with it,' as I don't care either way.
And since when is The Path to 2409 canon? And since when STO, for that matter?
He said it was cannon as FAR AS THE GAME IS CONCERNED. Game has to have what is cannon.
Facts on the ground far as THE GAME IS CONCERNED. Data is alive. Fact. Ent E, decommissioned. Fact. Capt Shon actually TALKED to Data and got his blessings to command Ent F. FACT.
As far as the game is concerned these events HAPPENED. Now far as the Star Trek cannon[such as it is] this game does not even exist. Nor do the events.
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Read the STO tie in novel "The Needs of the Many" it clearly and explicitly states that Data came back to life in B4's body. In fact B4 deletes himself so that Data can reassert himself.
He says (as in left a virtual note for him) goodbye with the words "I love you brother", which he chose on purpose since it was the last thing Lore said before Data deactivated him permanently.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
"One Klingon term used as an insult on numerous occasions was petaQ"
Read the STO tie in novel "The Needs of the Many" it clearly and explicitly states that Data came back to life in B4's body. In fact B4 deletes himself so that Data can reassert himself.
He says (as in left a virtual note for him) goodbye with the words "I love you brother", which he chose on purpose since it was the last thing Lore said before Data deactivated him permanently.
Ok I just checked the translator and you are right.I not concerned about the STO novel as far as I ma concerned Cryptic should of left the cast out of this game and stay away from canon as much as possible.Make the ships they want with some fan favourites.
Why didn't Picard just use shuttle craft or the thier transporters?
Tht maybe the case of data in the game but canon wise he is dead gone.It is what made Nemisis do poor at the box office.It is no different when Generations came out and the death of Kirk (Who happens to be my Favourite Star Trek Captain and Hero) after this I couldn't care about TNG.I will always resent Bermon and Braga for doing this.They forgot a cardinal rule never kill as Star Trek icon.Iamgine what would of happened if Spock stayed dead after Star Trek 2 that would of been it.It is why Activision sued Paramount as to low sales of Starfleet Command 3.Activision won it and got over Million/s from Paramount.
I really don't care about TNG as I ma more of classic fan although I did like Tasha as well as DS9.I ma enjoying this.http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ it is nice to see that good ship again as well as that era.
I ma pretty sure that even JJ knows better not to kill off an Icon especially a legendary Captain like Kirk.
That is why I say the orginal fan club in the US/Can gave up on TNG after Generations.It is why all publication of the Star Trek communicator closed down.They had suscribers cancelling thier subscritions.
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Ok I just checked the translator and you are right.I not concerned about the STO novel as far as I ma concerned Cryptic should of left the cast out of this game and stay away from canon as much as possible.Make the ships they want with some fan favourites.
Why didn't Picard just use shuttle craft or the thier transporters?
Tht maybe the case of data in the game but canon wise he is dead gone.It is what made Nemisis do poor at the box office.It is no different when Generations came out and the death of Kirk (Who happens to be my Favourite Star Trek Captain and Hero) after this I couldn't care about TNG.I will always resent Bermon and Braga for doing this.They forgot a cardinal rule never kill as Star Trek icon.Iamgine what would of happened if Spock stayed dead after Star Trek 2 that would of been it.It is why Activision sued Paramount as to low sales of Starfleet Command 3.Activision won it and got over Million/s from Paramount.
I really don't care about TNG as I ma more of classic fan although I did like Tasha as well as DS9.I ma enjoying this.http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ it is nice to see that good ship again as well as that era.
I ma pretty sure that even JJ knows better not to kill off an Icon especially a legendary Captain like Kirk.
That is why I say the orginal fan club in the US/Can gave up on TNG after Generations.It is why all publication of the Star Trek communicator closed down.They had suscribers cancelling thier subscritions.
Sorry Kirk in Generations was over the hill, retired pushing what 60? I'm glad Kirk died the way he did, one more ride into glory. Least he didn't die in his sleep. He died as a Captain should, in action.
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Sorry Kirk in Generations was over the hill, retired pushing what 60? I'm glad Kirk died the way he did, one more ride into glory. Least he didn't die in his sleep. He died as a Captain should, in action.
Who cares what you think he was the biggest Icon of Star Trek next to Nimoy.He wasn't over the hill if he can raise horses he sure in good shape.He didn't die like Capt should it was meaningless death with no honour to it.
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Ok I just checked the translator and you are right.I not concerned about the STO novel as far as I ma concerned Cryptic should of left the cast out of this game and stay away from canon as much as possible.Make the ships they want with some fan favourites.
Why didn't Picard just use shuttle craft or the thier transporters?
Tht maybe the case of data in the game but canon wise he is dead gone.It is what made Nemisis do poor at the box office.It is no different when Generations came out and the death of Kirk (Who happens to be my Favourite Star Trek Captain and Hero) after this I couldn't care about TNG.I will always resent Bermon and Braga for doing this.They forgot a cardinal rule never kill as Star Trek icon.Iamgine what would of happened if Spock stayed dead after Star Trek 2 that would of been it.It is why Activision sued Paramount as to low sales of Starfleet Command 3.Activision won it and got over Million/s from Paramount.
I really don't care about TNG as I ma more of classic fan although I did like Tasha as well as DS9.I ma enjoying this.http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ it is nice to see that good ship again as well as that era.
I ma pretty sure that even JJ knows better not to kill off an Icon especially a legendary Captain like Kirk.
That is why I say the orginal fan club in the US/Can gave up on TNG after Generations.It is why all publication of the Star Trek communicator closed down.They had suscribers cancelling thier subscritions.
Those may be the reasons that you don't like those films, but don't presume to speak for everyone. I personally don't like those two films for quite different reasons than you, and most of the people that I've seen comment on them have not mentioned the death of Kirk as their primary reason for disliking Generations, or the "death" of Data as the primary reason for their dislike of Nemesis. In both cases, most that I've spoken to about those films disliked both because of their rather weak stories.
Also, all that we know is that the lawsuit that Activision brought against Viacom was settled. No details were ever released of the settlement. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1415400/activision-viacom-settle-trek-suit If you know more, then you are probably in breach of contract by saying so, but you probably don't, as you just make up "facts" to further your points that are based on personal biases and general misunderstandings of what is clearly presented.
This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
It is why Activision sued Paramount as to low sales of Starfleet Command 3.Activision won it and got over Million/s from Paramount.
The lawsuit was between Activision and the holding company (Viacom).
Activision did not "win"; the two parties made and out of court settlement on the matter, and all pending suits were dismissed.
Neither company released any details on the particulars of the settlement other than Activision would get to continue certain titles.
Those may be the reasons that you don't like those films, but don't presume to speak for everyone. I personally don't like those two films for quite different reasons than you, and most of the people that I've seen comment on them have not mentioned the death of Kirk as their primary reason for disliking Generations, or the "death" of Data as the primary reason for their dislike of Nemesis. In both cases, most that I've spoken to about those films disliked both because of their rather weak stories.
Also, all that we know is that the lawsuit that Activision brought against Viacom was settled. No details were ever released of the settlement. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1415400/activision-viacom-settle-trek-suit If you know more, then you are probably in breach of contract by saying so, but you probably don't, as you just make up "facts" to further your points that are based on personal biases and general misunderstandings of what is clearly presented.
I read about it in official Fan mag as I got it The Communicator and most of them are in the US/Can.It is mostly the baby boom Generation.
Who cares what you think he was the biggest Icon of Star Trek next to Nimoy.He wasn't over the hill if he can raise horses he sure in good shape.He didn't die like Capt should it was meaningless death with no honour to it.
wow dying to save over 300 million humanoids is a worthless death? Nice to know.
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you are right although Acti did get what they wanted some where in the millions.
it was me who even published it.
Paramount/Activision lawsuit Setteled
Author: Age [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:41 am ]
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Here is something I copied from another forum.
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Video game publisher Activision Inc. (ATVI.O: Quote, Profile, Research) and media conglomerate Viacom Inc. (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) on Friday said they have settled their dispute over video games based on the "Star Trek" franchise. Both sides said all pending lawsuits related to the dispute have now been dismissed. Other terms of the settlement were not disclosed.
Activision sued Viacom in July 2003, claiming Viacom diminished the value of the "Star Trek" game license by not promoting the latest "Trek" series or making new "Trek" movies or TV shows.
Viacom countered at the time that the suit was just a ploy to renegotiate the license.
More details to come...
Author: Steve Angelis [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:57 am ]
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When was this?
Author: IndyV72 [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:04 am ]
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I'd be surprised though if Activision got to make any other ST game.
Author: Steve Angelis [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:05 am ]
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Oh they wont. They are out of Trek Gaming if I understand it right. They wont want to risk another one of these.
Author: IndyV72 [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:13 am ]
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New blood is what's need anyways.
Author: Age [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:29 am ]
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Here is the link to the full story and Activision can release some great games as in the Total War Series as I playing MTWViking Invasion.Here is the full story and link.
Updated
Author: Steve Angelis [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:32 am ]
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Thanx
Author: DisRuptor [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:08 am ]
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big grin Don't get Rome Total War Age or we'll lose all contact for a few months big grin
Author: flyingvirtual [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:24 am ]
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hehe, or any other game that could keep your attention for several months
Author: Steve Angelis [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:28 pm ]
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That good or bad?
Author: DisRuptor [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:17 pm ]
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:doh Bad of course - we rely on Age to keep us up to date. 8-)
Author: Age [ Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:34 pm ]
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No.I won't fly away off the way The Pelican did with RTW as I still consider myself a Trek gamer first and foremost.There is one thing about the TW series and that is my MTWVI didn't need a patch and it was published by Activision no less but some do.The Developer is Creative Assembly in the UK and they have been bought out by Sega Genisis yes those that make up playstation games for Sony.
Sega publishes their own games and developes them as well.What this means is that Activision will no longer publish the Total War series as it will be Sega but Creative Assembly will be subsiduary company of Sega and will continue the ever popular Total War series for some time to come.I can see why The Pelican chose to start playing RTW as it really makes you think and is very strategic in game play.I mentioned on a TW forum about a Star Trek total war series as some mentioned Star Wars so I said Trek.These people do good work.I wonder if Paramount has looked outside the US to publish and develope new Trek games like Total War and it is getting bigger and popular as there is something for someone or everyone young or old.No I won't be leaving you as where else am I suppose to get waffles and all the nice items. smile
We don't hotlink.From the boards of Star Trek Gamers itself.
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you are right although Acti did get what they wanted some where in the millions.
it was me who even published it.
We don't hotlink.From the boards of Star Trek Gamers itself.
Picard's time? Really? Seriously? There is no hope for you. Generations was meant to pass the buck from the original crew to the TNG crew. Sorry it was Kirk's time. He'd retired, he was done. He jumped that horse like that BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL. Why he left the Nexus.
Again least he went out swinging and in action. Not quietly in his bed.
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And it failed because there was no such thing nor there was the need of such think.
From what I gathered the movie had some heavy interference from upstairs leading to such nonsensical plot, here is one that makes no sense.
Why the hell did Soran had to make the Nexus to go over a planet when the first time he got inside was IN A FREAKING STARSHIP!
This is a example of bulletpoint plot to the degree few things even make sense, if Soran wanted to go into the Nexus he could just get into a ship and go there because thats what originally happened instead we had that stupid plot that makes no sense.
You know what the other problem is? TNG did not lend itself well to a movie ... TOS was the 60's so it had some things that worked well but not TNG, this is why all the TNG movies were off and Generations was not a good start, the same interference happened with First Contact were the Borg Queen was pushed in because "they needed a villain" leading to the Borg being turned into the joke they were in Voyager and then come Insurrection with PICARD ACTION HERO! that remained into Nemesis.
Let me say this, just because you are a "fan" does not mean you have to unconditional love and accept everything from the franchise, the moment you abandon your criticism because you are "a fan" makes you a fanboy at best and a tool at worst.
Umm I never said I was a hardcore fan. I was merely explaining the premise of the movie. Out of them all it's actually one of the ones I hate the most. Yes I totally agree the whole premise of the movie was asinine. Though some of the Data moments were funny.
TNG actually could lend itself quite well to movies, if they had better screen writers.
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You folks are incurable.
As a quick note, your firm assertion that Data was saved is controversial, at best. B-4 was vastly inferior to Data, and showed major signs of robotic retardation. B-4's partial recovery of some of Data's (the word you're looking for is) consciousness is iffy proof of anything. And if you look at Picard's melancholic face, you could just as well say he's realizing that B-4, despite the song, will never be more than a pale shadow of the Data we knew.
Indeed, that EMH Mk II was really A. Dick
Odd, doesn't look all that different from previous few Star Trek movies.
I have the same problem with Transformers..... I happen to have a collection of original G1, many Masterpiece figures, Binaltech and a collection of every Transformers cartoon from original G1 to Prime..... including the animated movie.... but since I like Michael Bay's version I'm not really a "true fan". Apparently in both franchises, to some, if you like too much (or the wrong type) of the franchise... you suddenly are no longer a fan.
And yet STO's backstory in The Path to 2409 clearly states that not only did Data's consciousness assert itself, he also upgraded the B-4 body's circuitry.
As far as STO is concerned, canon. Deal with it.
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(On a side note, see how stupid the argument sounds when somebody else uses it?)
And I answer that with this clip from near the end of the exact same film, where B-4 sings the exact song Data sang at Will and Deanna's wedding reception at the beginning. This is the sequel hook that STO used to bring Data back from the dead.
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Beat that! :cool:
I thought he was a higher Mk than that. Let me google it. IMDB, you are correct he is a Mk II, i was wrongly assumed.
For the person who keeps arguing data.....
In the film Star Trek: Nemesis, Data beams Picard off an enemy ship before destroying it, sacrificing himself, saving the captain and crew of the Enterprise. However, Data previously copied his core memories into B-4, Data's lost brother who is introduced in the movie. This was done with the reluctant help of Geordi LaForge who voiced concerns about how this could cause B-4 to be nothing more than an exact duplicate of Data.
In the comic book miniseries Star Trek: Countdown (the official prequel to the reboot Star Trek film), Data, having successfully transferred his positronic pathways and memories into B-4, now commands the Enterprise-E in its mission to stop the Romulan Nero. Spock compares Data's "resurrection" with his own death and return years earlier.[10]
In the book series Data is returned by having his memories and neural net transferred from B4 into a new body which contained the memory engrams of Data's creator Doctor Noonian Soong after he was dying and being attacked by Lore years earlier. Data then takes control of the body after Soong deletes himself. After a tearful reunion with his old ship mates Picard offers to reactivate Data's commission and to rejoin the crew but Data declines as he says he requires time.
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This might be dead now, BUT...
You do know Star Trek: First Contact was #1 for its opening weekend? Also, It is #6 in 1996 for highest gross weekend. The movie grossed $92,027,888 domestically and $54,000,000 foreign, for a total of $146,027,888 worldwide. That was all from the site you provided if you just opened your eyes and read it.
Then if you go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_trek_first_contact you can see Star Trek: First contact had a production cost of only $45 million.
146,027,888 - $45,000,000 = $101,027,888
Again, First Contact didn't lose money. While it might have not done great, it did well because it was made for Star Trek fans not the lowest common denominator like JJTrek.
An Unexpected Honor by Christine "Kestral" Thompson of Cryptic Studios dealing with Captain Shon getting his blessing from Professor Data at Oxford.
His return was also covered in the Star Trek Online novel The Needs of the Many and in the Path to 2409.
As far as STO is concerned, Data lives but is a Civilian now. The Enterprise-E? Possibly destroyed. I remember something from Al Rivera (I think) about CBS vetoing them to explore the end of the ENT-E, and just make theirs.
TRIBBLE Hydra! Hail Janeway!
LOL. I should have known better than to get drawn into this obsessive nerd/fandom.
And since when is The Path to 2409 canon? And since when STO, for that matter?
Then why would you care to post here? The thread is about Data, the Ent-E and their fate in STO.
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I meant it's canon to STO.
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He said it was cannon as FAR AS THE GAME IS CONCERNED. Game has to have what is cannon.
Facts on the ground far as THE GAME IS CONCERNED. Data is alive. Fact. Ent E, decommissioned. Fact. Capt Shon actually TALKED to Data and got his blessings to command Ent F. FACT.
As far as the game is concerned these events HAPPENED. Now far as the Star Trek cannon[such as it is] this game does not even exist. Nor do the events.
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingonese#petaQ
"One Klingon term used as an insult on numerous occasions was petaQ"
Read the STO tie in novel "The Needs of the Many" it clearly and explicitly states that Data came back to life in B4's body. In fact B4 deletes himself so that Data can reassert himself.
He says (as in left a virtual note for him) goodbye with the words "I love you brother", which he chose on purpose since it was the last thing Lore said before Data deactivated him permanently.
Take special note age03, that there are eight separate potential spellings of petaQ mentioned in the article; yours isn't one of them...
Whoops, I goofed up the BBcode. Fixed.
Repost for your convenience: http://youtu.be/S02T1j9qzwg
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Why didn't Picard just use shuttle craft or the thier transporters?
Tht maybe the case of data in the game but canon wise he is dead gone.It is what made Nemisis do poor at the box office.It is no different when Generations came out and the death of Kirk (Who happens to be my Favourite Star Trek Captain and Hero) after this I couldn't care about TNG.I will always resent Bermon and Braga for doing this.They forgot a cardinal rule never kill as Star Trek icon.Iamgine what would of happened if Spock stayed dead after Star Trek 2 that would of been it.It is why Activision sued Paramount as to low sales of Starfleet Command 3.Activision won it and got over Million/s from Paramount.
I really don't care about TNG as I ma more of classic fan although I did like Tasha as well as DS9.I ma enjoying this.http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ it is nice to see that good ship again as well as that era.
I ma pretty sure that even JJ knows better not to kill off an Icon especially a legendary Captain like Kirk.
That is why I say the orginal fan club in the US/Can gave up on TNG after Generations.It is why all publication of the Star Trek communicator closed down.They had suscribers cancelling thier subscritions.
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Sorry Kirk in Generations was over the hill, retired pushing what 60? I'm glad Kirk died the way he did, one more ride into glory. Least he didn't die in his sleep. He died as a Captain should, in action.
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Who cares what you think he was the biggest Icon of Star Trek next to Nimoy.He wasn't over the hill if he can raise horses he sure in good shape.He didn't die like Capt should it was meaningless death with no honour to it.
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Those may be the reasons that you don't like those films, but don't presume to speak for everyone. I personally don't like those two films for quite different reasons than you, and most of the people that I've seen comment on them have not mentioned the death of Kirk as their primary reason for disliking Generations, or the "death" of Data as the primary reason for their dislike of Nemesis. In both cases, most that I've spoken to about those films disliked both because of their rather weak stories.
Also, all that we know is that the lawsuit that Activision brought against Viacom was settled. No details were ever released of the settlement. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1415400/activision-viacom-settle-trek-suit If you know more, then you are probably in breach of contract by saying so, but you probably don't, as you just make up "facts" to further your points that are based on personal biases and general misunderstandings of what is clearly presented.
The lawsuit was between Activision and the holding company (Viacom).
Activision did not "win"; the two parties made and out of court settlement on the matter, and all pending suits were dismissed.
Neither company released any details on the particulars of the settlement other than Activision would get to continue certain titles.
I read about it in official Fan mag as I got it The Communicator and most of them are in the US/Can.It is mostly the baby boom Generation.
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I read the Atii did win.
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wow dying to save over 300 million humanoids is a worthless death? Nice to know.
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It should of been Picard not Kirk it wasn't his time.
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you are right although Acti did get what they wanted some where in the millions.
it was me who even published it.
We don't hotlink.From the boards of Star Trek Gamers itself.
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Picard's time? Really? Seriously? There is no hope for you. Generations was meant to pass the buck from the original crew to the TNG crew. Sorry it was Kirk's time. He'd retired, he was done. He jumped that horse like that BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL. Why he left the Nexus.
Again least he went out swinging and in action. Not quietly in his bed.
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Umm I never said I was a hardcore fan. I was merely explaining the premise of the movie. Out of them all it's actually one of the ones I hate the most. Yes I totally agree the whole premise of the movie was asinine. Though some of the Data moments were funny.
TNG actually could lend itself quite well to movies, if they had better screen writers.
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