I agree, and not just a fleet holding or something like that. However our own starbase would lead to needing our own fleets and doff systems, ect...I just honestly do not see that happening.
However we already have the makings of an awesome Romulan Starbase...Gasko station!
They could give us that and add in the little shiny bits that cost us loads of Dil to spruce up the place.
The boss being a gigantic Winter Epohh Researcher. As you lay waste to the Epohh Horde, she can occasionally cry out things like, "Didn't you want an Epohh friend?"
While I would support a Romulan Starbase . I honestly don't see Cryptic stepping up to the plate to deliver a home run here. What I would prefer and it's been suggested before, I'm just utterly too lazy to go searching the forums to dig up citation . Is the Suggestion for a feature project that would allow you to toggle an outer and inner skin for either fed or KDF to change to a Romulan themed Base.
But again the 8000 pound elephant in the room says Denied , this ain't ever going to happen.
The OP must be correct because he put some of the title in capitals.
Let's not forget that a separate starbase means a separate faction and so splitting all the different PvP queues into 3 different groups. And in the process reduce the number of players in each queue, effective killing PvP stone dead.
And we would have the joy of grinding a whole new starbase, embassy, etc. Because I really want to do that again.
I could never understand why Romulan's didn't have their own starbase to begin with...
Other factions added at a later date will probably be forced to use Fed / Kdf bases too :mad:
because we're not a faction we're third class members of the Federation and Klingon Empire thats why :P
The best we can really hope for is a Rom Sklin project for bases so our fleets can toss buckets of Dilithium into and make it look like we have our own station even tho itll function just like a fed/kdf one
Aaaaaand how much time do you spend on your overpriced clubhouse? Enough to justify dropping a couple million dil into it?
Dont misunderstand, my Rom fleet would probably drop everything and work on those vanity projects exclusively so we could have a Rom looking base. Im just sayin that a custom skin is prolly the only thing we MIGHT get off cryptic
Dont misunderstand, my Rom fleet would probably drop everything and work on those vanity projects exclusively so we could have a Rom looking base. Im just sayin that a custom skin is prolly the only thing we MIGHT get off cryptic
I am thinking that you are probably correct, though I would go find a Romulan fleet for that. It would be so nice to go to a place that didnt have a garish red hue and smelly targs wandering around.
Dont misunderstand, my Rom fleet would probably drop everything and work on those vanity projects exclusively so we could have a Rom looking base. Im just sayin that a custom skin is prolly the only thing we MIGHT get off cryptic
A custom skin is probably the only reasonable thing we can ask for, considering.
In modern MMO history there has never been a game that successfully added a full, completely-equal-in-every-way third faction (where there were previously TWO factions) and integrated it smoothly and without major failure or complaint, and bringing that third faction up to a true level of competitiveness with the existing ones. Hell, it's arguable that STO hasn't been able to get TWO factions right, since the KDF were originally a half-faction and are STILL neglected TODAY (well, a tiny bit less neglected now that the Mogh is out )
That is especially unlikely in STO, which demands a great deal of investment from its fleets into Starbases and fleet holdings. If Romulans were a full third faction with completely separate fleet systems, no long-time player would make a romulan character except purely for kicks or Rommie fanboyism, purely because of the costs that would be involved with getting romulans back up to the same standard of access as the KDF and Fed fleets they've had 2+ years to invest in.
Cries that the Romulan faction was a cash-grab to bilk players out of even MORE dilithium, commodities, time and EC would be even louder than they were when we all learned that Romulans were a sub-faction.
I disagree with your assessment that "no one" would make rom characters, sure the min/max munchkins would never do it but they're also a cancerous tumor in gaming communities whos only use is to shuck out buckets of cash to keep the game open. :P
More seriously tho I do disagree, but since the only way we'll ever find out will never happen..
I disagree with your assessment that "no one" would make rom characters, sure the min/max munchkins would never do it but they're also a cancerous tumor in gaming communities whos only use is to shuck out buckets of cash to keep the game open. :P
More seriously tho I do disagree, but since the only way we'll ever find out will never happen..
If these min/max munchkins are the people keeping the game open, then I'd say that they're pretty damn useful and we should thank them on our hands and knees for keeping such a nice and open game active
If these min/max munchkins are the people keeping the game open, then I'd say that they're pretty damn useful and we should thank them on our hands and knees for keeping such a nice and open game active
Those guys frustrate me the most. Many (but not all) whine and complain if you are on their team in PvP or and STF and you have not optimized your build like they have. Often, they play then leave. Holding their attention long is an act of futility. That being said, there are a few who do act professional and don't need to brag because they know they are **** hot and have nothing to prove. Some even take it as a challenge to do well despite a gimped team. THOSE players I would gladly team up with.
I don't see a full fledged starbase happening at this point. Most reasonable thing you could hope for is a fleet holding with largely exclusive Romulan stuff. A Romulan reskin for the aesthetics of the full starbase might also be possible but that seems like a lazy solution that would get more complaints than anything else.
The only answer I can see would be for them to create a Romulan fleet with Romulan appearance that accepts only Romulan members independently of ally affiliation, so that Romulans could pick a side and belong to either an allied fleet OR a Romulan fleet.
Of course, they haven't even managed to deliver Romulan teaming yet, as originally stated, but then backpedalled on.
Those guys frustrate me the most. Many (but not all) whine and complain if you are on their team in PvP or and STF and you have not optimized your build like they have. Often, they play then leave. Holding their attention long is an act of futility. That being said, there are a few who do act professional and don't need to brag because they know they are **** hot and have nothing to prove. Some even take it as a challenge to do well despite a gimped team. THOSE players I would gladly team up with.
Depends, some ships I don't expect a lot from, simply because of the state of the game and it's "balance" and so there's no point raging at someone like that. Having said that you don't have to min/max to be good enough to do STF.
Also if someone who is in a very optimised ship asks, politely, for you to do something as part of the team usually it's because it is efficient. I've seen complete noobs complete STFs in a competitive time to good players by following good advise and putting what power they have in the most efficient place.
Then I've also seen obstinate stuck up good players fail an STF because they refused to and vice versa in all of this. I won't pretend that good players don't have a big head sometimes but far too often I see bad players with low skill refusing to do things in even a way that would eventually finish the STF when 4 people on the team are asking politely for them to stop.
Also if someone who is in a very optimised ship asks, politely, for you to do something as part of the team usually it's because it is efficient. I've seen complete noobs complete STFs in a competitive time to good players by following good advise and putting what power they have in the most efficient place.
wait people outside your own fleet talk during stfs?? where?? dont think Ive ever seen that
How about a starbase project to turn the current starbase (whether KDF or Federation) into a Romulan-themed one, cosmetically speaking? You could even keep it within the lore by naming the project "Turn Over Starbase Operations to the Romulan Republic" or some such to indicate that Starfleet is turning over the starbase to their allies.
Everyone keeps their fleet progress. No need to start over from scratch.
All of the cosmetic projects would already be unlocked (but with a romulan theme).
Romulan-only fleets would be able to have their true Romulan starbase.
Current NPCs could be mirrored to become Federation/KDF representatives, if not replaced by Romulan NPCs entirely.
If you don't like the current Romulan theme -- offer the same project to turn it back into a Fed-themed starbase with the same costs, etc.
Furthermore this opens up the possibility for more 'theme' projects in the future. Maybe a Cardassian starbase when we get playable Cardassians (our very own DS9!)... or a Dominion starbase that the Fed/KDF 'liberate'... etc., KDF could further have Orion, Gorn, Nausicaan, Lethean, etc. starbases (not saying it would happen but it would at least be possible with this idea). Or a partially assimilated starbase a la Starbase 82 from Infected ground.
And Cryptic gets the purple stuff from us.
It's not perfect, but I think it's a very reasonable compromise with winners on all sides.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
What we need is customizable ship interiors and fleets. There are a lot of alien-focused fleets in the game. Some fleets don't accept a new fleet member unless they are the right race. Being able to add the proper alien features to a Fleet Starbase would work.
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However we already have the makings of an awesome Romulan Starbase...Gasko station!
They could give us that and add in the little shiny bits that cost us loads of Dil to spruce up the place.
-Seacat
Other factions added at a later date will probably be forced to use Fed / Kdf bases too :mad:
But again the 8000 pound elephant in the room says Denied , this ain't ever going to happen.
Alas we can all Dream right .
Let's not forget that a separate starbase means a separate faction and so splitting all the different PvP queues into 3 different groups. And in the process reduce the number of players in each queue, effective killing PvP stone dead.
And we would have the joy of grinding a whole new starbase, embassy, etc. Because I really want to do that again.
The best we can really hope for is a Rom Sklin project for bases so our fleets can toss buckets of Dilithium into and make it look like we have our own station even tho itll function just like a fed/kdf one
I am thinking that you are probably correct, though I would go find a Romulan fleet for that. It would be so nice to go to a place that didnt have a garish red hue and smelly targs wandering around.
-Seacat
A custom skin is probably the only reasonable thing we can ask for, considering.
In modern MMO history there has never been a game that successfully added a full, completely-equal-in-every-way third faction (where there were previously TWO factions) and integrated it smoothly and without major failure or complaint, and bringing that third faction up to a true level of competitiveness with the existing ones. Hell, it's arguable that STO hasn't been able to get TWO factions right, since the KDF were originally a half-faction and are STILL neglected TODAY (well, a tiny bit less neglected now that the Mogh is out )
That is especially unlikely in STO, which demands a great deal of investment from its fleets into Starbases and fleet holdings. If Romulans were a full third faction with completely separate fleet systems, no long-time player would make a romulan character except purely for kicks or Rommie fanboyism, purely because of the costs that would be involved with getting romulans back up to the same standard of access as the KDF and Fed fleets they've had 2+ years to invest in.
Cries that the Romulan faction was a cash-grab to bilk players out of even MORE dilithium, commodities, time and EC would be even louder than they were when we all learned that Romulans were a sub-faction.
More seriously tho I do disagree, but since the only way we'll ever find out will never happen..
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If these min/max munchkins are the people keeping the game open, then I'd say that they're pretty damn useful and we should thank them on our hands and knees for keeping such a nice and open game active
Also wtf do they do with all these doffs?!?
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Those guys frustrate me the most. Many (but not all) whine and complain if you are on their team in PvP or and STF and you have not optimized your build like they have. Often, they play then leave. Holding their attention long is an act of futility. That being said, there are a few who do act professional and don't need to brag because they know they are **** hot and have nothing to prove. Some even take it as a challenge to do well despite a gimped team. THOSE players I would gladly team up with.
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Of course, they haven't even managed to deliver Romulan teaming yet, as originally stated, but then backpedalled on.
Depends, some ships I don't expect a lot from, simply because of the state of the game and it's "balance" and so there's no point raging at someone like that. Having said that you don't have to min/max to be good enough to do STF.
Also if someone who is in a very optimised ship asks, politely, for you to do something as part of the team usually it's because it is efficient. I've seen complete noobs complete STFs in a competitive time to good players by following good advise and putting what power they have in the most efficient place.
Then I've also seen obstinate stuck up good players fail an STF because they refused to and vice versa in all of this. I won't pretend that good players don't have a big head sometimes but far too often I see bad players with low skill refusing to do things in even a way that would eventually finish the STF when 4 people on the team are asking politely for them to stop.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
No, it doesn't mean that at all. Cryptic has said that it would be possible to offer Romulan fleets in the future if there was enough demand for them.
Everyone keeps their fleet progress. No need to start over from scratch.
All of the cosmetic projects would already be unlocked (but with a romulan theme).
Romulan-only fleets would be able to have their true Romulan starbase.
Current NPCs could be mirrored to become Federation/KDF representatives, if not replaced by Romulan NPCs entirely.
If you don't like the current Romulan theme -- offer the same project to turn it back into a Fed-themed starbase with the same costs, etc.
Furthermore this opens up the possibility for more 'theme' projects in the future. Maybe a Cardassian starbase when we get playable Cardassians (our very own DS9!)... or a Dominion starbase that the Fed/KDF 'liberate'... etc., KDF could further have Orion, Gorn, Nausicaan, Lethean, etc. starbases (not saying it would happen but it would at least be possible with this idea). Or a partially assimilated starbase a la Starbase 82 from Infected ground.
And Cryptic gets the purple stuff from us.
It's not perfect, but I think it's a very reasonable compromise with winners on all sides.
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I already suggested ... well, anyway, here.
I wonder what Elite Plasma weapons would be like.
Romulan Plasma with an extra [Dmg] tacked on, most likely.
If they want demand, then lets give it to them!
Heck, I would support that. It was a nice graphic, just used in the wrong place. I would like to see them return it used in a more appropriate spot.