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Valkyrie vs Peregrine why Peregrine?

yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
edited March 27 in Federation Discussion
One of the things I have always wondered is how you came to the idea that the federation should use peregrine fighters.

At the time period the game is set in the Peregrine fighters would have been phased out of service for the more modern Valkyrie fighters, but you seem to have chosen to use the older boxy looking Peregrine over the much sleeker modern looking Valkyrie

so what I'm asking for is for the Valkyrie to be added as a flyable and hanger craft as it fits the time period better, but chances are it might be hard to get because of ownership or whatever if so I can understand



peregrine: http://www.foundation3d.com/plugins/p13_download_manager/images/556.jpg


Valkyrie: http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130715031350/startrek/images/1/1c/Gryphon_1.jpg


So pretty cool ship I would definitely buy that thing even if it is a fighter I currently use the Yellowstone due to how much better it's look fits the time period
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  • ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well for one the Valkyrie has never appeared in a Trek show so isn't canon, which means that CBS won't hold the rights to the design and it would require some potentially tricky negotiations to get in game. It's one of the main reasons STO doesn't see ships which have appeared in older Trek titles like Armada etc. The only reason we got the Vesta is because Mark Rademaker was willing to let his design be used.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ufpterrell wrote: »
    Well for one the Valkyrie has never appeared in a Trek show so isn't canon, which means that CBS won't hold the rights to the design and it would require some potentially tricky negotiations to get in game. It's one of the main reasons STO doesn't see ships which have appeared in older Trek titles like Armada etc. The only reason we got the Vesta is because Mark Rademaker was willing to let his design be used.

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  • yuki109yuki109 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Still it would be nice to have the Valkyrie ingame
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Because Peregrine-class comes from the shows.

    In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the Dominion War arc (specifically "Sacrifice of Angels") featured the first-ever use of traditional space fighters in Star Trek, termed Federation attack fighters. These were an idea Starfleet borrowed from the Maquis, who added phasers and torpedoes to Peregrine-class courier ships ("The Maquis, Part II") and used them like the Klingons use B'rels, as fast, lightweight raiding ships.
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Never gonna happen, ever.
    Don't expect to ever see any unique ships from any previous Star Trek games.
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Id rather have a cool looking unique fighter instead of the peregrines. Doesnt have to be from a previous game, it could be fed trainers with weapons :D
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Because it's from ST: Invasion which is owned by Activision. Good luck with those rights! :P
  • matridunadan1matridunadan1 Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I want Data's scout ship.
  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    If you see a ship in another Star Trek property... such as a comic, a video game or a novel... don't waster your time asking for it in STO. The only reason we got the Vesta is a combination of pure luck and the designer is a fan of the game. Getting something from a rival game company (Activision) or one that is defunct (Interplay, Taldrin) simply put: Ain't happening no way no how.
  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ufpterrell wrote: »
    Well for one the Valkyrie has never appeared in a Trek show so isn't canon, which means that CBS won't hold the rights to the design and it would require some potentially tricky negotiations to get in game. It's one of the main reasons STO doesn't see ships which have appeared in older Trek titles like Armada etc. The only reason we got the Vesta is because Mark Rademaker was willing to let his design be used.


    We really need more Mark Rademaker designs in the game. That guy has an eye for starship design. I love his work.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    um... considering the valkyrie is heavily designed off the BSG Fighters, i doubt you will ever see it in game, its a non-canon design from a game bade by another company who owns the design, not CBS.
  • kadamskadams Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    matridunadan1 wrote: »
    I want Data's scout ship.

    I'd happily shell out 5$ for that, and I'm not joking, even if it's identical to the Danube runabout, I'd buy it.
  • sabremeister1sabremeister1 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Maybe not as a new ship, but what about adding the Valkyrie as a skin for the Peregrine?
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    sabremeister1 wrote: »
    Maybe not as a new ship, but what about adding the Valkyrie as a skin for the Peregrine?

    For that Cryptic would still need to obtain the rights to the design from Activision/Blizzard.
  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    Because it's from ST: Invasion which is owned by Activision. Good luck with those rights! :P

    Actually not, everything from Star Trek Invasion is kinda in limbo. If memory serves Activision was the publisher not the developer and the rights to the games content belong to Warthog games, which was bought out by Tiger Teletronics, which went belly up in 2006 and all assets were liquidated to pay the *cough* considerable debt the company owed.

    Its a screwed up mess, but if someone wanted to take the time to untangle it they could find out who now owns the rights to the intellectual properties of Star Trek Invasion. Which I might add if the copyrights haven't been renewed since then, are expired.
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  • ameristamerist Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    matridunadan1 wrote: »
    I want Data's scout ship.

    That is surprisingly cool.
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  • toddjohnson100toddjohnson100 Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    Am I Jack-Frickin crazy, or are there already Valkyrie hangar pets in game? I swear I've
    seen them and I too would LOVE to have a flyable version. I would pay good money for
    one of those as opposed to those flying boxes called Peregrines.
  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,226 Arc User
    OMG it's a necro runnnnnnnnnnnnnn @rattler2 @darkbladejk @baddmoonrizin
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    necro /thread
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