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shrapne11
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The recent leech fix did nothing to stop leeching in this game which has gone to the point of being beyond ridiculous. Tonight I have run numerous instances of The Breach and Storming The Spire and in all but 1 we had at least 1 leecher and in some we had multiple leechers.
Some rush in and die never respawning while others fly just outside of combat range doing circles until the instance is nearly over then they come in and fire a shot or two. Then others simply never leave the spawn point.
Other games resolve this quite nicely by have actual GM's in the game. In that case you simply post a GM help request and they come in, evaluate the situation and ban the leecher. In this game you turn in a GM help request and nothing ever happens. In most games GM's are volunteers who have a strict set of rules to follow and if they are found abusing those rules they get punished so it costs the developer nothing but significantly increases the customer service satisfaction of paying customers.
The only way to resolve the leeching problem is for leechers to start getting temporary and permanent bans from the game.
Some rush in and die never respawning while others fly just outside of combat range doing circles until the instance is nearly over then they come in and fire a shot or two. Then others simply never leave the spawn point.
Other games resolve this quite nicely by have actual GM's in the game. In that case you simply post a GM help request and they come in, evaluate the situation and ban the leecher. In this game you turn in a GM help request and nothing ever happens. In most games GM's are volunteers who have a strict set of rules to follow and if they are found abusing those rules they get punished so it costs the developer nothing but significantly increases the customer service satisfaction of paying customers.
The only way to resolve the leeching problem is for leechers to start getting temporary and permanent bans from the game.
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Last week I was in a Kithomer Vortex STF with 3 (three!) leechers.
Yesterday (same STF) there was someone always attacking one of the Transwarp Conduits, getting destroyed, respawned and attacking the same gate again, dying, respawn, attack again. It was like an automated bot.
last time we had one dude doing nothing, I remembered the release notes of November 12, about AFK penalties etc etc, so I stopped and started looking for a button or something to do something for the AFK guy but the only thing I found was the report one, I'm still silver player and that button never really worked for me till now so I didnt tried it at all...just added him in my ignore list after the game ended.
They could add a button so you can "jettison" a guy if all players press it or something...
I saw a leechers as you speak of (never respawning and "vulture" leechers), and even had Brain support me about a week ago when I stated that the new AFK system addresses them and BANS them. Bran tested it himself by running in, dying, and waiting at the revive screen, when the round was over he posted a screenshot of his "ban" notice. So this happens, and I've also seen folks that just fly in circles and not do anything get bans (as no loot drops at the end for folks that get bans instead). So finding that the system actually worked is rather obvious.
The only reason you would fallaciously bring up something like this which is totally false in some lame attempt to change the system currently in place, could only be for selfish reasons.
First wave leechers is what I call them now. They seem to always be in Elachi Alert. They come into the game and are just like any other player through the first wave of enemies. Then they stop. Not die and not respawn just move out of battle and stop. And no they were not shutting down gates. I was on the right spar shutting it down and they were 20km to the right of me way out of range
Yesterday I saw a player do this in Elachi Alert and then left as soon as it was over. I queued for Azure Nebula Rescue right after that. The same player was in that event. And again fought throughout the first wave. Then hid behind a rock for the remainder of the event. As soon as the event was complete they were the first to leave.
Two days ago I noticed two players from the same fleet in a Federation Fleet Alert. One stayed at spawn point for the first two waves while the other fought. Then they traded off and the camper became the fighter, and the fighter became the camper. They traded off again for 7-8 and left the event before the boss wave. I assumed this was a multiboxing situation.
For the Azura event I am not sure what to think about the comments about hiding behind rocks etc as when I go in this event I am normally in my defiant. I hold back until the team has got aggro and then dart in to the captive ship to release it while the enemy is occupied which is pretty much the goal of the mission. Keeping out the line of fire for a FAW does seem like a good idea to me. Would this look like I am leeching though?
The same applies with Elachi alert, in that we dart in and clear the first wave but then somebody needs to do the gate scans to get bonus objectives. By not flying around shooting stuff it is likely this is also being construed as leeching when again it is the goal of the mission.
Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
I go running to an objective with confidence, see a mass of players in back of me, and suddenly they all stop and wait at the threshold while I engage targets. No support, no healing, no crossfires.
I thought this was a Multi Player Game?
Leeching is really bad in all the Voth content.
The problem isn't people occasionally having a legitimate issue with the game or in RL but those who habitually leech off of others. Simply turn on your "system" notifications in chat and watch the person who remains out of combat constantly hit the NEED button. I was in a Spire run the other night with 2 leechers.
I avoid PUGs whenever at all possible and am lucky enough to be in a very active fleet, however there are times that there are not enough fleet mates online, e.g. 2:00AM while I can't sleep. At that point I may pug some of the less team dependent missions like Infected Space, Spire and etc. however you still have the frustration of seeing the same people popping up in random PUG's and doing nothing but spamming the NEED button while never shooting anything. It is a lazy and rude way to get loot, marks, xp and etc.
Personally, I have not played in days, and most likely will not play till after a few more patches go by to improve the game. I will not risk my toons to the current bugs. My suggestion is to NOT play as a form of protest. Use the forums and wait till things are fixed. Complaining about the game while continuing to play the game does nothing to fix the game. A sharp drop in the number of players online is the only motivation that the game owners will understand. So long as we play the game is all that matters to them.
Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it. Me, I just don't care all that much; and I certainly don't go and check 'system' to see who pressed 'NEED' or not: I got better stuff to do (like fight), and I don't want the inventory-filling TRIBBLE anyway, so they can have it.
Also, when I notice the occassional leecher, I don't feel anger or frustration. Ere, more like: "Good, who needs you anyway?! We can kick this Voth *ss ourselves, thank you!" And to said Voth: "Don't think you're not going down with 1 person less, cuz you will!"
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Even if the system is working, perhaps the severity is not good enough.
Maybe a one week ban and a system that measures damage and healing done would motivate them more.
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