Really like the way this is progressing so far. I really like Frek (and Rin for that matter...why is it, do you think, that so many of us have tough-as-nails Ferengi Tactical officers on our bridge crews?),
I suspect, as jonsills hinted at with his Captain Grunt, that those sorts of Ferengi may be considered "deviant" by Ferengi society. Perhaps Starfleet is a better fit for them than most jobs back home.
I'm going to enjoy seeing Schrodi's TRIBBLE nailed to the wall then cashiered out of the fleet :cool: If Jesu doesn't do it, ch'Harrell will :cool: She's getting too much of a liability to remain in command, and her crew can see it. Might even be cool to see a 'mutiny' of sorts to remove her from command :cool:
Which raises the question, is it mutiny if the reason for removal is a war crime on the captain's part?
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Which raises the question, is it mutiny if the reason for removal is a war crime on the captain's part?
To be fair, under these circumstances, it wouldn't really be a mutiny, just the removal of an unfit captain, as regulations would call for. According to the regs, Schrodi should be hauled to the brig for a court-martial. I can normally tolerate things via 'the needs of the many', but in this case, Schrodi's a liability and disgrace to the uniform, and this won't be the first time her behaviour has been unacceptably out of line...
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A thought/suggestion... Schrodi goes bad... Maybe not Full On Cultist, but a recurring nemesis...
I'm going to enjoy seeing Schrodi's TRIBBLE nailed to the wall then cashiered out of the fleet :cool: If Jesu doesn't do it, ch'Harrell will :cool: She's getting too much of a liability to remain in command, and her crew can see it. Might even be cool to see a 'mutiny' of sorts to remove her from command :cool:
Except after telling them the truth, they quit grumbling and are fully behind her. Armageddon in a few weeks kinda changes things
"It may be better to be a live jackal than a dead lion, but it is better still to be a live lion. And usually easier." R.A.Heinlein
Except after telling them the truth, they quit grumbling and are fully behind her. Armageddon in a few weeks kinda changes things
Even Admiral-conduct-unbecoming-an-officer-Kane would call the line at someone replicating a Genesis Device and GGing a Cardassian supply depot, and pass rumours of such onto the admiralty of Resources to start a disciplinary
Her court martial would be fascinating to watch, though. On the one hand, she committed war crimes condemned by every interstellar civilization in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, at least (we have no idea how the various groups in Delta feel about it, nor the remnant of the Dominion in Gamma); on the other, the Gray Goo scenario dealt with an abandoned Cardassian facility, one probably slated for demolition anyway, and one which if left in the hands of the terrorist group holding it could have endangered the entire galaxy by diverting crucial resources from the imminent attack at Goralis. And she was careful to program a necrosis factor into the nanites, so that the Goo would cease being a threat in a matter of hours.
The remaining question, then, is whether the Genesis Device has in fact been outlawed. There was never any mention in canon of this - the Klingon ambassador certainly said bad things about it before the Federation Council, but part of that was simply posturing (as he also referred to it as "the ultimate weapon", and claimed that the Mutara incident was a "test firing" of the weapon). And while STIII mentioned that use of protomatter was considered unethical in the Federation, it apparently hadn't been specifically outlawed, as Dr. David Marcus was able to obtain some amount of it to use in the design of Genesis. It's possible that this is merely frowned upon, rather than constituting an actual war crime, and its deployment will be justified if it's successful in stopping the incursion of - well, of whatever's coming through that rift (could be Undine, could be Fek', could even be the Masters themselves).
So there's a fair chance that Schrodi could avoid prison, if her plan works. (And we have the benefit of knowing that if it doesn't work, Facility 4028 will probably be her best chance to be among the last survivors...) She will almost certainly lose her commission, of course, if her complicity in the Gray Goo is revealed, which would be a shame, but there you go.
Her court martial would be fascinating to watch, though. On the one hand, she committed war crimes condemned by every interstellar civilization in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, at least (we have no idea how the various groups in Delta feel about it, nor the remnant of the Dominion in Gamma); on the other, the Gray Goo scenario dealt with an abandoned Cardassian facility, one probably slated for demolition anyway, and one which if left in the hands of the terrorist group holding it could have endangered the entire galaxy by diverting crucial resources from the imminent attack at Goralis. And she was careful to program a necrosis factor into the nanites, so that the Goo would cease being a threat in a matter of hours.
The remaining question, then, is whether the Genesis Device has in fact been outlawed. There was never any mention in canon of this - the Klingon ambassador certainly said bad things about it before the Federation Council, but part of that was simply posturing (as he also referred to it as "the ultimate weapon", and claimed that the Mutara incident was a "test firing" of the weapon). And while STIII mentioned that use of protomatter was considered unethical in the Federation, it apparently hadn't been specifically outlawed, as Dr. David Marcus was able to obtain some amount of it to use in the design of Genesis. It's possible that this is merely frowned upon, rather than constituting an actual war crime, and its deployment will be justified if it's successful in stopping the incursion of - well, of whatever's coming through that rift (could be Undine, could be Fek', could even be the Masters themselves).
So there's a fair chance that Schrodi could avoid prison, if her plan works. (And we have the benefit of knowing that if it doesn't work, Facility 4028 will probably be her best chance to be among the last survivors...) She will almost certainly lose her commission, of course, if her complicity in the Gray Goo is revealed, which would be a shame, but there you go.
This is the thing, given the dressing down she and Monroe got from Admiral ch'Harrell, she's already skating on thin ice in terms of shenanigans, and something like this could allow for an intriguing plot twist where character shenanigans often overlooked for plot sake (ie Kirk being demoted but still getting a new ship) might not be... Arguably, Marcus should have been dishonorably discharged once the circumstances of his sister's death were revealed, but as the events came to me non-linearly, it's one of those plot flaws I can't get round... Still, he's getting his galactic comeuppance
Glad you're enjoying it. what do you think of the bathroom scene-did we manage to get teh funny in?
Very much so, it definitely had teh lulz I had a feeling someone was going to get their TRIBBLE nailed to the wall, I just wasn't expecting it to be Nahona-San yet, but it's good to see As a side note, from the examples of ch'Raul and ch'Harrell, I'm seeing that Andorian chans are more hardcore than I gave them credit for :cool:
Her court martial would be fascinating to watch, though. On the one hand, she committed war crimes condemned by every interstellar civilization in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, at least (we have no idea how the various groups in Delta feel about it, nor the remnant of the Dominion in Gamma); on the other, the Gray Goo scenario dealt with an abandoned Cardassian facility, one probably slated for demolition anyway, and one which if left in the hands of the terrorist group holding it could have endangered the entire galaxy by diverting crucial resources from the imminent attack at Goralis. And she was careful to program a necrosis factor into the nanites, so that the Goo would cease being a threat in a matter of hours.
Not necessarily. One of the cool things about gray goo is that's one of those things that you really do need to kill with fire. Just inserting a "DIE" command doesn't destroy the nanites, it just turns them off, leaving a handy cloud of programmable WMD for the next mad scientist to come along to pick up.
Another cool thing about gray goo is that the distributed intelligence of the swarm increases exponentially until the swarm grows beyond the transceiver range sphere of your programming interface. And since these are nanostructures about the size of a human brain cell, that means the goo can get to be scary-smart in a hurry.
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- Anne Bredon
Very much so, it definitely had teh lulz I had a feeling someone was going to get their TRIBBLE nailed to the wall, I just wasn't expecting it to be Nahona-San yet, but it's good to see As a side note, from the examples of ch'Raul and ch'Harrell, I'm seeing that Andorian chans are more hardcore than I gave them credit for :cool:
Funny...I always wrote chans as (more often) the bolder guys, with thaans as a little lower-key (such as Thraz). But even if Treklit canon says something about it, people are people, and can be whatever regardless of gender or race.
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Not necessarily. One of the cool things about gray goo is that's one of those things that you really do need to kill with fire. Just inserting a "DIE" command doesn't destroy the nanites, it just turns them off, leaving a handy cloud of programmable WMD for the next mad scientist to come along to pick up.
Another cool thing about gray goo is that the distributed intelligence of the swarm increases exponentially until the swarm grows beyond the transceiver range sphere of your programming interface. And since these are nanostructures about the size of a human brain cell, that means the goo can get to be scary-smart in a hurry.
And an 'electronic signature' in the programming for someone else to identify the creator... I don't think even JAG wunderkindt Daniel Kaffee IX will be able to get Schrodi out of this one...
Funny...I always wrote chans as (more often) the bolder guys, with thaans as a little lower-key (such as Thraz). But even if Treklit canon says something about it, people are people, and can be whatever regardless of gender or race.
I've never really seen anything specific about which were the more aggressive (or if there indeed was a behavioural difference) but I always took the example of Shran being a thaan as the example for that gender, so for some reason, figured chans to be slightly less aggressive/assertive. I guess my character of Cadet Benn ch'Rmann, is going to be a bit different than I first anticipated, beyond being a pun on the brandname
I caught up with this story yesterday in one sitting, pretty much. It's a great story, well told, with plenty of sympathetic characters (and some not so much) and exciting action. However, taken on its own and in combination with others in the same continuity that have been posted here in the past, I've begun to see a pattern that I find somewhat disturbing.
This is a version of the Trek galaxy in which the "Godzilla Threshold" has been passed - where any action, no matter how extreme or even illegal (in the ordinary course of law), is preferable to the alternative of enslavement and/or extinction. A setting in which the term "war crime" loses all meaning (if they lose, the Good Masters aren't going to stop eating people to hold tribunals, and if they win, I sincerely doubt anyone mentioned here is going to get more than a slap on the wrist like Jim Kirk at the end of Trek IV), except perhaps as a codeword for "effective tactic". What's a little grey goo, or a Genesis torpedo, in the face of literal Armageddon, right? Besides, these are the Good Guys, fighting the good fight! Just ask them.
It's a setting where soldiers - true soldiers, not bullies and slavers and r**ists - are always right and always justified. Well-meaning civilians may wring their hands, but we are shown again and again that everything done by and to them is necessary, for the greater good. Otherwise, more people would die (often lots more). The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (who make that sacrifice knowingly and willingly), let alone silly little things like "due process" or "rules of war" (as if you could make war follow rules). The ends truly justify the means. Those who fail to understand this, who cling to some naive and fluffy notion of how things should be, will be killed (or worse) by the terrible things that lurk outside the walls.
It's a setting where Section 31 - and others who oppose them, but employ similar methods themselves - is shown, at the end of the day, to be right.
Well, it's definitely not the Trekverse as shown either on TV (except for some episodes of DS9) or in-game - but it's an interesting, and damn well-told, story all the same.
And given what we've seen of ch'Harrel's reactions so far, I'm not so sure about that "slap on the wrist" thing - I think it's quite likely that many of the principals in this tale will wind up cashiered, or worse (I think Ssharki was about ready to eat the guy that sent the Moabites out too soon, in an unfinished ship...). They'll be able to comfort themselves afterward with the fact that what they did saved the galaxy, but - are you familiar with a website called the SCP Foundation? Pooryoric wrote a tale for the site once, in the form of a poem, referencing several SCP items (and one tale concerning SCP-231-7), called "black white black white black white black white grey" (caution: language NSFW, SCP items referenced may be disturbing).
The ending: "I'm alive to write about it. You want happy endings?
**** you. You're alive to read it.
God help us all."
Sometimes there aren't any good solutions, just least-bad ones. And sometimes the "heroes" aren't exactly the kind of people you'd hold a parade for, and are doing things they themselves find horrific, because the alternative is even worse. Nobody's ever going to sing the praises of the guy who developed Procedure 110-Montauk, but an XK-class End-of-World scenario is being avoided by something so terrible that Class-A amnestics are handed out like party favors to the personnel involved.
And nobody but Schrodi is ever going to agree that Gooing the True Way was a good idea, or even justified - but on the other hand, it is preventing that particular shipyard from supporting the Good Master cultists...
I'm quite familiar with the SCP Wiki, thanks. And I note that the actual person who came up with 110-Montauk wasn't anyone in universe, but an author, trying to make a point and/or get a reaction. (My personal feelings on that point are too long and tangential to include here, but they include the word "gratuitous", to give you some idea.)
"In the Pale Moonlight" is a remarkable episode, provocative, unique. When it becomes the tone for an entire continuity, however, I can't help but feel that something is lost. Nor can I help but think of a question asked by another Ron Moore show - is survival all that matters? Is any sacrifice, any compromise, acceptable in that context? Or does there come a point where a people, a culture, no longer deserve to survive?
The Halkans in TOS "Mirror, Mirror" were willing to die, as a race, to avoid being complicit in what the Terran Empire was going to do with their resources. One could well argue (as our Kirk did) that this was a meaningless gesture - that the Empire would simply raze the planet and take what they wanted anyway. But sometimes, such gestures - taking a stand on principle, saying "this far, no further" or "we're not going to do that - today!" - are all that is left to us, if we are to be true to ourselves.
... or maybe Bashir's bitter observation has come true, and there is nothing left of the Federation but a 25th century Rome, in which the law is silent. I hope not, I really do. I'd like to believe there's more than that. Because as that other show said, without law to say that X is a Captain, Y's an Admiral or Z's a President, it's all just a gang of thugs on spaceships, doing as they please.
... or maybe Bashir's bitter observation has come true, and there is nothing left of the Federation but a 25th century Rome, in which the law is silent. I hope not, I really do. I'd like to believe there's more than that. Because as that other show said, without law to say that X is a Captain, Y's an Admiral or Z's a President, it's all just a gang of thugs on spaceships, doing as they please.
I'd like to hope you'll be pleasantly surprised by what happens down the road in this, were not even to the half way point i think. There are consequences for actions, as necessary as they may seem at the time. Schrodi for one, is expecting a nice cozy room at Facility 4028 once this is done-assuming that she survives that is. But this is an apocalyptic scenario, and as such, the heroes have to make hard choices-some that may be hard to live with-they have to fight monsters, while risking becoming monsters themselves.
"It may be better to be a live jackal than a dead lion, but it is better still to be a live lion. And usually easier." R.A.Heinlein
I expect that there will be consequences, yes. And that the characters who suffer them will do so nobly, declaring that they did what they had to do, would do it again, and that it was ultimately the right thing to do. And the tone of the narrative will back them up - that however terrible, it was all necessary.
If anyone would be interested in writing it into the plot line, I've spent the afternoon researching the UCMJ, and come to the conclusion that Schrodi could potentially be charged with nine UCMJ Articles... If anyone is interested, I can PM them the researched details, as well as the requisite investigations...
Because as that other show said, without law to say that X is a Captain, Y's an Admiral or Z's a President, it's all just a gang of thugs on spaceships, doing as they please.
This is my fear, and why I would want to see Schrodi sanctioned, for her behaviour and not given 'a hero/martyr's death which would enable further such actions...
One point, though I don't want to say too much: IMHO it is notable that the Cardassians followed the path of the ends justifying the means almost all the way to its bitter end. I think that affects them because they have had to face the demon in themselves openly. The fight between the loyalists and the True Way is about more than just democracy versus oppression. It's more than just a fight about form of government. It is also about truth versus denialism and whether morality is determined by principle or power.
The Cardassians, perhaps, could be said to be a living object lesson.
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One point, though I don't want to say too much: IMHO it is notable that the Cardassians followed the path of the ends justifying the means almost all the way to its bitter end. I think that affects them because they have had to face the demon in themselves openly. The fight between the loyalists and the True Way is about more than just democracy versus oppression. It's more than just a fight about form of government. It is also about truth versus denialism and whether morality is determined by principle or power.
The Cardassians, perhaps, could be said to be a living object lesson.
In my research, the Cardassians would have be within their rights to demand the extradition of the person responsible for GGing their depot and killing their citizen, and recklessly endangering others. The UCMJ does not defend against that request, but willingly allows the extradition. Given the level of Cardassian oversight required for the joint presence in Cardassian space, I would imagine they would want answers about the loss of the depot when Jesu's investigation of the Gray Goo comes to their attention...
That would require that they be inclined to do so-remembr, this was a base under the control of violent, fanatical criminals who'd just spent the last few days indulging in an orgy of terrorism, ****, hostage taking, mutiny, mutilation, brutality, cop-killing...
But was the base always thus, or was it one that the Cardassian government might have appreciated the return of? Regardless of if the Cardassians would have wanted the depot back or not, what struck me while I was doing my research, was that the UCMJ would punish an officer for the act of the breach regardless of if there was justification, as the act itself, is beneath an 'officer and a gentleman'. I believe this is what hfmudd is referring to, as it is a concern I share...
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I suspect, as jonsills hinted at with his Captain Grunt, that those sorts of Ferengi may be considered "deviant" by Ferengi society. Perhaps Starfleet is a better fit for them than most jobs back home.
Which raises the question, is it mutiny if the reason for removal is a war crime on the captain's part?
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A thought/suggestion... Schrodi goes bad... Maybe not Full On Cultist, but a recurring nemesis...
Except after telling them the truth, they quit grumbling and are fully behind her. Armageddon in a few weeks kinda changes things
"he's as dangerous as a ferret with a chainsaw."
I wouldn't say bad-just not going to obey laws that get in the way of her saving the universe. It isan interesting idea tho ... ^.^
"he's as dangerous as a ferret with a chainsaw."
I have them every now and again -- even a broken clock is right twice a day
The remaining question, then, is whether the Genesis Device has in fact been outlawed. There was never any mention in canon of this - the Klingon ambassador certainly said bad things about it before the Federation Council, but part of that was simply posturing (as he also referred to it as "the ultimate weapon", and claimed that the Mutara incident was a "test firing" of the weapon). And while STIII mentioned that use of protomatter was considered unethical in the Federation, it apparently hadn't been specifically outlawed, as Dr. David Marcus was able to obtain some amount of it to use in the design of Genesis. It's possible that this is merely frowned upon, rather than constituting an actual war crime, and its deployment will be justified if it's successful in stopping the incursion of - well, of whatever's coming through that rift (could be Undine, could be Fek', could even be the Masters themselves).
So there's a fair chance that Schrodi could avoid prison, if her plan works. (And we have the benefit of knowing that if it doesn't work, Facility 4028 will probably be her best chance to be among the last survivors...) She will almost certainly lose her commission, of course, if her complicity in the Gray Goo is revealed, which would be a shame, but there you go.
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Very much so, it definitely had teh lulz
:cool: I'll look forward to the next head on a pike :cool:
Mild spoiler: The next 'head' isn't gonna go onto that pike quietly or without a fight.
Not necessarily. One of the cool things about gray goo is that's one of those things that you really do need to kill with fire. Just inserting a "DIE" command doesn't destroy the nanites, it just turns them off, leaving a handy cloud of programmable WMD for the next mad scientist to come along to pick up.
Another cool thing about gray goo is that the distributed intelligence of the swarm increases exponentially until the swarm grows beyond the transceiver range sphere of your programming interface. And since these are nanostructures about the size of a human brain cell, that means the goo can get to be scary-smart in a hurry.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Funny...I always wrote chans as (more often) the bolder guys, with thaans as a little lower-key (such as Thraz). But even if Treklit canon says something about it, people are people, and can be whatever regardless of gender or race.
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I've never really seen anything specific about which were the more aggressive (or if there indeed was a behavioural difference) but I always took the example of Shran being a thaan as the example for that gender, so for some reason, figured chans to be slightly less aggressive/assertive. I guess my character of Cadet Benn ch'Rmann, is going to be a bit different than I first anticipated, beyond being a pun on the brandname
This is a version of the Trek galaxy in which the "Godzilla Threshold" has been passed - where any action, no matter how extreme or even illegal (in the ordinary course of law), is preferable to the alternative of enslavement and/or extinction. A setting in which the term "war crime" loses all meaning (if they lose, the Good Masters aren't going to stop eating people to hold tribunals, and if they win, I sincerely doubt anyone mentioned here is going to get more than a slap on the wrist like Jim Kirk at the end of Trek IV), except perhaps as a codeword for "effective tactic". What's a little grey goo, or a Genesis torpedo, in the face of literal Armageddon, right? Besides, these are the Good Guys, fighting the good fight! Just ask them.
It's a setting where soldiers - true soldiers, not bullies and slavers and r**ists - are always right and always justified. Well-meaning civilians may wring their hands, but we are shown again and again that everything done by and to them is necessary, for the greater good. Otherwise, more people would die (often lots more). The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (who make that sacrifice knowingly and willingly), let alone silly little things like "due process" or "rules of war" (as if you could make war follow rules). The ends truly justify the means. Those who fail to understand this, who cling to some naive and fluffy notion of how things should be, will be killed (or worse) by the terrible things that lurk outside the walls.
It's a setting where Section 31 - and others who oppose them, but employ similar methods themselves - is shown, at the end of the day, to be right.
And I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
And given what we've seen of ch'Harrel's reactions so far, I'm not so sure about that "slap on the wrist" thing - I think it's quite likely that many of the principals in this tale will wind up cashiered, or worse (I think Ssharki was about ready to eat the guy that sent the Moabites out too soon, in an unfinished ship...). They'll be able to comfort themselves afterward with the fact that what they did saved the galaxy, but - are you familiar with a website called the SCP Foundation? Pooryoric wrote a tale for the site once, in the form of a poem, referencing several SCP items (and one tale concerning SCP-231-7), called "black white black white black white black white grey" (caution: language NSFW, SCP items referenced may be disturbing).
The ending: "I'm alive to write about it. You want happy endings?
**** you. You're alive to read it.
God help us all."
Sometimes there aren't any good solutions, just least-bad ones. And sometimes the "heroes" aren't exactly the kind of people you'd hold a parade for, and are doing things they themselves find horrific, because the alternative is even worse. Nobody's ever going to sing the praises of the guy who developed Procedure 110-Montauk, but an XK-class End-of-World scenario is being avoided by something so terrible that Class-A amnestics are handed out like party favors to the personnel involved.
And nobody but Schrodi is ever going to agree that Gooing the True Way was a good idea, or even justified - but on the other hand, it is preventing that particular shipyard from supporting the Good Master cultists...
"In the Pale Moonlight" is a remarkable episode, provocative, unique. When it becomes the tone for an entire continuity, however, I can't help but feel that something is lost. Nor can I help but think of a question asked by another Ron Moore show - is survival all that matters? Is any sacrifice, any compromise, acceptable in that context? Or does there come a point where a people, a culture, no longer deserve to survive?
The Halkans in TOS "Mirror, Mirror" were willing to die, as a race, to avoid being complicit in what the Terran Empire was going to do with their resources. One could well argue (as our Kirk did) that this was a meaningless gesture - that the Empire would simply raze the planet and take what they wanted anyway. But sometimes, such gestures - taking a stand on principle, saying "this far, no further" or "we're not going to do that - today!" - are all that is left to us, if we are to be true to ourselves.
... or maybe Bashir's bitter observation has come true, and there is nothing left of the Federation but a 25th century Rome, in which the law is silent. I hope not, I really do. I'd like to believe there's more than that. Because as that other show said, without law to say that X is a Captain, Y's an Admiral or Z's a President, it's all just a gang of thugs on spaceships, doing as they please.
I'd like to hope you'll be pleasantly surprised by what happens down the road in this, were not even to the half way point i think. There are consequences for actions, as necessary as they may seem at the time. Schrodi for one, is expecting a nice cozy room at Facility 4028 once this is done-assuming that she survives that is. But this is an apocalyptic scenario, and as such, the heroes have to make hard choices-some that may be hard to live with-they have to fight monsters, while risking becoming monsters themselves.
"he's as dangerous as a ferret with a chainsaw."
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This is my fear, and why I would want to see Schrodi sanctioned, for her behaviour and not given 'a hero/martyr's death which would enable further such actions...
The Cardassians, perhaps, could be said to be a living object lesson.
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In my research, the Cardassians would have be within their rights to demand the extradition of the person responsible for GGing their depot and killing their citizen, and recklessly endangering others. The UCMJ does not defend against that request, but willingly allows the extradition. Given the level of Cardassian oversight required for the joint presence in Cardassian space, I would imagine they would want answers about the loss of the depot when Jesu's investigation of the Gray Goo comes to their attention...
But was the base always thus, or was it one that the Cardassian government might have appreciated the return of? Regardless of if the Cardassians would have wanted the depot back or not, what struck me while I was doing my research, was that the UCMJ would punish an officer for the act of the breach regardless of if there was justification, as the act itself, is beneath an 'officer and a gentleman'. I believe this is what hfmudd is referring to, as it is a concern I share...