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So, the FEDs will have their own Tovan Khev?

galaxyrider0galaxyrider0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
Well, just finished reading the last DEV blog of Season 8, about the new Federation Tutorial.

Maybe I interpreted wrong, but seems the FED toons will have their own version of Tovan Khev, that BOFF we can't fire.

Can any DEV clarify to us if this new BOFF called "Cadet Elisa Flores" will be implemented in the same way as Tovan Khev?

I'm my humble opinion, Tovan Khev have sense in the main Romulan History Arc, but let's be realistic, not being abble to discharge him after the conclusion of the history arc is annoying. His Skills do not justify the use of the BOFF Slot. I have seen so many people with similar opinions about this, that seems worthy of your attention.

If you want to keep this pattern with one BOFF, just make their Skills better and the history arround them rich.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    yeah but he acts and talks like woody allen.

    Puts Kev to shame imho.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    someone who's on tribble told me the other day that she is dischargible.
    It's not my fault if you feel trolled by my Disco ball... Sorry'boutit.



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  • galaxyrider0galaxyrider0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    yeah but he acts and talks like woody allen.

    Puts Kev to shame imho.

    Elisa Flores, it's a woman right? :rolleyes:

    Did you tested her on Tribble?

    No surprise if this new BOFF comes better, they learned from Tovan, and... this is FED stuff, when the DEV cheaps are down double shifts.
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    "If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Jean-Luc Picard
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    someone who's on tribble told me the other day that she is dischargible.

    Oh, okay........
  • jaymadiv#8056 jaymadiv Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    so then Tovan will be dischargeable too right?
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    jmadfour wrote: »
    so then Tovan will be dischargeable too right?

    I don't think we're that lucky.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    * sets up the nerd rage collector*

    What? It's a cheap free power source, and plentiful enough to supply me for eternity. :P
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  • galaxyrider0galaxyrider0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    * sets up the nerd rage collector*

    What? It's a cheap free power source, and plentiful enough to supply me for eternity. :P

    Because in every thread someone has to stand up and lit a fire.

    Who is raging here? No one.
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  • waaagh951waaagh951 Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    discharged an old boff on my main fed for this boff. planning on redoing a new fed toon just for this. i don't see the problem a story boff. cool. me like that
  • beerxhyperbeerxhyper Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    waaagh951 wrote: »
    discharged an old boff on my main fed for this boff. planning on redoing a new fed toon just for this. i don't see the problem a story boff. cool. me like that
    and she acctually has pretty damn good traits <3 i am ssooo getting her on my trill and caitian now if only we could get her for fed allied romulans lol.


  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This is merely the first step in my plan. I will continue to the second step if my demands are not met.

    Rescue Ambassador Spock from the alternate timeline and deliver him to me so that he can finally become my husband!!!

    Hey, Zachary Quinto will work if you can't get Leonard Nimoy.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Great so if I want to do a 3rd fed toon, I get saddled with a toon I can't fire? AWESOME! -facepalm-
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  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    talonxv wrote: »
    Great so if I want to do a 3rd fed toon, I get saddled with a toon I can't fire? AWESOME! -facepalm-

    You can fire Flores. They've already confirmed that multiple times.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I hope so, if not, goodbye snowflakedom. :(
  • elemberq333elemberq333 Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    jmadfour wrote: »
    so then Tovan will be dischargeable too right?

    You can not even discharge Tovan sometimes when you are playing a federation of Klingon character in the Nimbus 3 missions. Often suddenly one of your boff's will start speaking with Tovan's voice...:rolleyes:
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    It's one boff slot...some people really do act like Tovan takes up half their roster...
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • galaxyrider0galaxyrider0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    It's one boff slot...some people really do act like Tovan takes up half their roster...

    It's one slot you have to buy another one if want to use.

    The big picture is: I think most of the people are upset because we don't have the right to discharg him, it's a loss of free will in-game.
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  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    It's one boff slot...some people really do act like Tovan takes up half their roster...

    He takes up a spot in the roster and cannot be dismissed. There is currently a bug where he will replace your department heads in the doff interface. if i was a roleplayer this would be immersion breaking for me i would think. Even if your away team is made up entirely of a new crew, it will glitch out and Tovan will pop in there to talk. Sometimes it even glitches out and his dialogue will show, but a placeholder male Andorian head will show up.

    Then there is his attitude and behavior which some people dont mind, but some people do. He has a tendency to 'steal the spotlight' and i find this to be a distraction. With him it's understandable at least because you and him are friends. But how is Cadet Flores going to act? Imagine for a second if Capt Picard or Janeway captured some bad guy and they were about to interrogate him and get all dramatic, when BAM!!! Cadet Flores comes out of nowhere and she starts speaking all the dramatic dialogue. Cause that actually happens in the Romulan storyline in the game with your captain standing there going errr...and Tovan coming forward saying "ok mr bad guy, time for you to talk".
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    It's one slot you have to buy another one if want to use.

    The big picture is: I think most of the people are upset because we don't have the right to discharg him, it's a loss of free will in-game.
    IMO it's a lot less important than you make it out to be.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yeah, he was called Riker...how many times have we seen Riker talk for Picard, and Picard just sit there.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    IMO it's a lot less important than you make it out to be.
    Even if we were able to dismiss him, a lot of people would keep him. Why ? He have the Romulan Operative, one of the best space traits in the whole game, and an extremely rare traits.
    As a Romulan, that's the only BOFF I have with this traits, except for Satra. I'm not including the Embassy BOFF, as you need an embassy (obviously), and the necessary ressources for it.


    I understand the frustration, but I don't share it. I'm happy with my Tovan.
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Yeah, he was called Riker...how many times have we seen Riker talk for Picard, and Picard just sit there.
    BOFFs always acted as the Captain voice in STO. Nothing new.
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  • valetharvalethar Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I don't think we're that lucky.

    We should be. There's no reason at all that we should be required to keep a BOFF we're never going to use.
  • merescintillamerescintilla Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    Even if we were able to dismiss him, a lot of people would keep him. Why ? He have the Romulan Operative, one of the best space traits in the whole game, and an extremely rare traits.
    As a Romulan, that's the only BOFF I have with this traits, except for Satra. I'm not including the Embassy BOFF, as you need an embassy (obviously), and the necessary ressources for it.

    Then you're clearly doing something wrong. Romulan Operative is easy to get, it's the Superior version that's harder and Tovan doesn't have it.
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    Even if we were able to dismiss him, a lot of people would keep him. Why ? He have the Romulan Operative, one of the best space traits in the whole game, and an extremely rare traits.
    As a Romulan, that's the only BOFF I have with this traits, except for Satra. I'm not including the Embassy BOFF, as you need an embassy (obviously), and the necessary ressources for it

    He only has Basic Romulan Operative though, the one you really want is Superior Romulan Operative (SRO).

    You know how the first 4 boffs are always the named ones? what about the generic boff rewards you get after them? non of your boffs rewarded after Hiven are SRO? i think they are mostly randomized, but i must have really good luck because on one toon two of the generic boffs i got had SRO. On another toon that i wasnt playing much i found that 2 of my candidates were also SRO so i mailed them to my main Romulan toon. I'm thinking about rolling some toons and leveling them just to see if i can get more boffs with SRO lol.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    That because he does, the so called VOICE OF THE PLAYER manages to overshadow every single other Bridge Officer because he is the only one that speaks and I am not talking about having voice acting, I mean he is the only one that talks 90% of the time.

    Go replay the Romulan missions and count how many times Tovan speaks and how many times your other Bridge Officers speak ...

    Besides this a MMO and a Cryptic MMO were customization was supposed to be a selling point, now can I have a all Reman Bridge Officer Team? No ... because the writer decided to force a character onto the player crew, its a something that stands out because everyone else? I can dismiss ... except that one guy that never shuts up.

    ^THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS. Story is okay, but damn, don't force it on me. :(
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    ^THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS. Story is okay, but damn, don't force it on me. :(

    Also

    Some things just dont translate well into games. In the movies and shows Riker may speak for Picard, but if the writers wanted to they could have Picard tell Riker to shut the eff up. But in STO you arent watching this going on you are actually a part of it. I cant tell Tovan to shut up, stand down, as you were, or stay on your station. I have to sit there and listen to his (sometimes bad) dialogue. Unless i'm given the option to hear what my first officer has to say or just go with what i think is right i would rather just have my first officer there being supportive or being quiet. I think there was only one time where i was given the option "what do you think Tovan" and that was during the Khitomer mission.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Yeah, he was called Riker...how many times have we seen Riker talk for Picard, and Picard just sit there.
    A lot. Picard sometimes did the good cop bad cop routine, and Riker would always be the bad cop.
    Then you're clearly doing something wrong. Romulan Operative is easy to get, it's the Superior version that's harder and Tovan doesn't have it.
    not if you don't buy them on exchange. you're not guaranteed to get Boffs with it from your level up Boffs. If you stick with what you get from storyline missions, level ups, and doffing, you may never get a full crew of superior operative(not that you can use more than 5 at a time).
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