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chalpen
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No this is not another thread asking for it.
Geko just said that it is "very likely to happen" in the GnT show released today.
Thank you.
Feds gave up. That is all.
:P
Geko just said that it is "very likely to happen" in the GnT show released today.
Thank you.
Feds gave up. That is all.
:P
Should I start posting again after all this time?
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R.I.P
More like the KDF went on strike because the Feds got a new ship and they didn't.
If cryptic doesn't want the KDF's money, we are ok with that.
so says the faction that cried for a fed only pvp que because playing against Klingons was too tough....
R.I.P
I would love to see the storyline go deeper into the undine after the war ends
idk I just think its odd that starfleet let everything go when it came to the undine like it was no big deal. well we can only hope for some big changes in the plot in season 9, when ever that will be :rolleyes:
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I mean... I just can't listen to the klingons crying anymore... It's so... Un-klingon.
That and our characters regardless of faction know whats up with the undine by the end of the undine missions but it just ends without any follow up.
That and we know that some elements of starfleet are infiltrated by the undine and that the KDF chancellor may be an undine as well.
I was not party to such an event. PvP can die in a fire for all I care.
I knew it!!!!!!
No Klingon in their right mind would have allowed B'vat to do all the things he did!
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I never got the feeling there was a war going on in STO, I always felt they sicked the feds on us because they couldn't think of anything more creative to put in the missions. The only reason to end this so-called war is to eliminate the need to cut-and-paste fed missions to make Klink ones.
It's a stupid idea to end this war that never really existed, and for what- so we can all hold hands and sing kumbya while we stomp the next big threat to federation space ?
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It is implied several times, like in the path to 2409 where he kills Martok in single combat for the chancellorship behind closed doors without anyone seeing which for a Klingon is odd to do behind closed doors to say the least.
^^^This. If they have to do it (which due to their capacity to handle things obviously do) at least make it logical and interesting.
They way I see it, if this is to happen it should happen as ending the open war and turning it into a reluctant cold war, so it makes sense the factions are joining forces for PvE content, but gives the individual liberty to the captains to have engagements with each other because there is no formal peace treaty, but rather only a temporary truce.
I'm saying this because a huge portion of the KDF content revolves around killing Feds., blowing their ships, invading their bases and taking prisoners, etc. It would need a huge rework of all of this if we're to have proper peace and given how often they put out KDF content, I just don't see all this rework happening.
Exactly. Cryptic has done an extremely bad job in promoting this war and basically expected the war be done in PvP. :rolleyes:
Then there is the Cryptic giving the Federation players all the toys that was unique to the KDF, stripping them of any need to play, except to farm Dilithium.
Well hopefully this will mean we can merge Fleet Event queues, since the KDF Fleet queues have been completely dead, even during the Fleet Events.
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I say call it official ending. Since there really isn't a war to begin with.
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Honestly I'd be surprised if J'mpok was an Undine. He's had a grudge ever since Taris kicked Klingon butt and it was easier to rabble-rouse and blame the Feds rather than admit his own failings. If I were an Undine intent on sowing chaos, I wouldn't replace a guy like that, but rather do everything I could to help him get into power. Bigger shock, maybe have it be Martok (again), and J'mpok and the Council know it and are covering for some reason. Wheels within wheels.
As to ending the war, sure why not? Doesn't mean kiss and make up at all though, but actually there's a lot more room for storytelling on both sides if you're allied with someone you dislike immensely. Look at some of the NPC dialogue around the New Romulus staging area for example; they'll work together, but there are even plenty of Fed NPCs who have a real grudge against the Klingons at this point. "I've never trusted Klingons, and I never will," as it were. Instead you get the opening for stories like A Matter Of Honor and The Wounded or frenemies like Dukat. Heck, I think one of the little mini-missions in the Dyson Sphere where a Fed and KDF ship are about to come to blows over proper procedure for some [REDACTED], and you need to step in and remind them that they're on the same side (and for bonus points, the Fed is being the paranoid hothead). How much room is there for instances like that all over the place, big and small?
As for PVP, it would allow for cross-faction queuing as anything from wargames (and learning to work together) to dealing with rogue elements to captains with a grudge getting it out of their system in simulation. It also solves the logically fallacy that has Romulans killing other Romulans, turning the faction choice into more a question of liaising rather than choosing sides.
The war is just nonsense and does nothing but feed the egos of childishly aggressive and shortsighted people. Theres so much more opportunity if can just drop it.
The farce of a WAR was used to explain why Klingons were a PVP only faction.
Even if the War is officially ended once a Character reaches max level nothing will change because the War never really existed in the first place.
If the Klingon faction had launched with 50% of the Story Content that that Federation factions did the War angle would have never been used and PVP would have been billed has skirmishes.
Just because the war ends does not mean that the two factions will become allies, I'd hope that it would be more like how the Federation and Klingons dealt with each other in the TNG era.
If the War is ended the story better be told in a well done Featured Episode series.
Someone should tell that to all the Klingons showing up alongside me to fight the Borg, Tholians, and Crystalline Entity, and hanging out with me on New Romulus, Nukara, Risa, and Q's Winter Wonderland.
Honestly, outside of B'vat, some PVP matches, and some obsolete Fleet Actions, Cryptic never really gave this whole 'war' thing a shot. I've spent infinitely more time cooperating with the KDF than I did fighting them, even by NPC proxy.
Way I see it, they're not ending a war, just giving up on the illusion that there ever was a war.
Joint STF participation is a joke...
If we were at war we would have been fighting one another.
I blame the devs entirely for this folly.
Their inability or lack of desire to open hostilities has truly been one of the most disappointing aspects of this game.
The Borg have been a threat for a generation...I do not use that crutch as a reason to befriend the KDF. In terms of DOFF missions the KDF constantly are raiding Federation outposts for loot and prisoners. If this were real the Feds would not tolerate this.....again this is pure folly to accept that while fighting the Borg it is ok and tolerated that KDF ships can raid Fed outposts and ships and take prisoners....
Lets us apply that logic to the Earth Cold War.......Suddenly China is the major enemy...So the USSR and USA decide to stop fighting to face the Chineese......in reality the Soviets continue to attack the USA in raids etc...how long is that peace gonna last hmm?
And if they now make everbody buddy buddy I will /roll eyes even worse.
The Klingons in STO are dishonorable, conniving, and need to be isolated from galactic society. They are brigands, thieves and the alien trash of the galaxy.
Except if the KDF wins, there's probably not going to be a Starfleet.
Or a "Federation"
Or an Earth.
So on that basis, the Feds are probably going to either be the winners, or they're going to be the ones pointing out that the Iconians are the bigger threat.
The fact that the war is going to end suggests that there's going to be a bigger threat on the horizon. Roll on Season Nine!
This isn't all that different from Klingons on TNG and DS9, honestly. They had a very loose definition of 'honor', and were more often just bullies and psychopaths.
I...
what.
I've heard rumors that references to it are being scrapped from the opening Fed cinematic.
However, conflict with Klingons has been ADDED to the Fed tutorial.
This all does suggest to me that they plan to do SOME more with it but don't intend for it to be a permanent part of the game's backdrop. Since they are introducing the idea of fighting Klingons in the tutorial but are downplaying J'mpok and the Khitomer Accords in the cinematic.