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hank900
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Let's try and not complain and submit your ideas in the proper forums instead of putting down everything PWE does.
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In before the flames erupt.
I support the Star Trek Battles channel.
I am annoyed by the senseless raging a lot. Some of the complaints are so ridiculous it's not even funny.
I'm sure they'll come in here soon.
Really though, with the waxing and waning of people playing sto which is reliant on the content releases, during the drought times the forums are only populated by the hardcore players, many of which have become jaded. It's hard not to be jaded really. That and its easier to be negative about something then it is to be positive about something.
But yeah, people seriously need to simmer down with the complaints.
*dies lol-ing*
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So if you have an issue with people complaining, then either put those individuals on ignore or you simply don't read those threads.
Yeah, this forum is so toxic. I have almost totally stopped coming here because of how toxic it is.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
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^^THIS!!^^ lol
Also, isn't complaining about complainers technically.....complaining?
Normally yes, but if they are deemed simply trolling than I suppose not.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
They just shift attention away from more important stuff that is lacking like bugfixes and more ships and content for the KDF, and balancing overpowered stuff.
Check out REAL mmo forums from proven successful games and the amount of bile far outweighs the usefull information. Best thing you can do is not get involved, and threads like this one really dont accomplish anything.
Its cool to hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
"I'm addicted to you, don't you know that your toxicc!!!!" Yeah, we hate the forums but we keep on coming back like a crack addict going back to their dealer
Also, complaining about complaining isn't productive. It tends to bait trolls into flaming you and these types of threads always get shutdown eventually.
In other words you want people to shut their mouths and not state facts
So, first you lie and then you attack people for stating facts.
translation: we should shut anyone up who dares state facts and doesn't kiss up to cryptic
In other words you're attacking people and calling them 'toxic' for stating facts. You know why people get angry? Because they have legitimate reasons to be. Period
Ever heard the expression pot calling the kettle?
I ask this, due to your temper tantrum post here, attacking people for expressing their views.
Now, take a chill pill and come back after puberty, you will feel better, k
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What are you talking about me lying? You must be looking at the wrong comment or something.
Don't let it bother you. If that's what a liar is, then I'm a liar too.
His/her comment about mine makes absolutely zero sense.
I know. But then....
Some peoples children.
But then on the other hand, my god is the forums entertaining, reading the forums, is like reading a transcript to a town meeting gone wrong. It's like watching morning talk shows, you know their stupid, but you can't help but watch and be glad you're not them, but glad they entertain you at their expense.
My all time favorite is someone thinking their idea is so awesome , that everyone in game and on the forms must love it as well, and we all think a like because we're the Borg. So we all just think the same, and if you don't agree you're a rouge collective, but so small you don't matter and can't mess with perfection.:D
Simple: There are two different kinds of complaints.
Complaint type 1: The rage quitting ones, where you simply go something like "ZOMG, THAT NEW CARRIER IS OWERPOVZERED... The missions is stupid long, FIX IT STO (<- Blames the game rather than the developer).
These people are the ones, where I am in full agreement with the OP. You should never rage just to rage, or complain just to complain, and especially not if you don't provide reasoning behind your complaint.
If you want to complain, you should do so using the
Complaint type 2: The structured, well considered complaint, that pinpoints the exact elements where the user is dissatisfied, and potentially provides one or more solutions to the issue:
The new carrier brought into the game, seems to be somewhat overpowered in regards to factor-x. The problem is when a player has skill-y and uses them while doing-z.
A potential work around for this, could be to apply <some restriction> to the ship while in red alert..
Now obviously, the above are simplified examples, but you get the picture.
No one should be restricted from bring up valid complaints... That IS after all how any company knows how and when to change their product, and as long as there is thought behind the complaints, I believe that they should keep coming.
Taco doesn't count because he is trolling 90% of the time, and Brandon doesn't count because he is the PR dude from PWE. Which is fine, but i'm talking about the Devs that came here to ask for feedback and responded to ideas and bounced ideas of the community (Heretic, Gozer (what ever happened to the weekly PvP updates? lol ... ), Cpt. Logan... heck even dStahl came here to just talk and tease)...
since the Devs left i feel out of the loop, my feedback isn't wanted or required anymore so i moved on to games where the Devs are still around and give a damn (in Marvel Heroes you can see many Devs post every day, there is constant back and forth and the game is getting better and better because of it).
And my feeling is that when the Devs left the forums, that most players that WANTED to give constructive feedback and ideas left soon after, so now all that is left are people complaining or talking nonsense...
that is, if anything moves at all on the first page. i can remember days when the first page of General Discussions flipped over within an hour, now it takes a day or two for a post without replies to flip over to page 2.
Of course Season 8 will come soon and then we will have lots to talk about, but little to actually influence anymore because it is pretty much a done deal already and they barely started teasing us yet.
And the irony is that the dev that (seemingly) triggered the shut-up, actually just made a minor slip... nothing too serious, and he wasn't even in a position to make a clear statement on said topic (wich he didn btw).
It was almost as if PWE were just waiting for such a slipup, to shut communications down.
These days, it really just serves to promote people to be dis-satisfied, and not getting anything from Cryptic to put their mind at ease or at least make people understand the hows and whys.
But that of cause still doesn't allow (in my world) for randomness... Either you support complaints with strong arguments, or you don't complain.
And when was the last time you saw that here?
All we do have is people coming here, posting their opinion as god-given facts, complaining why the Devs do not listen to him/her (they often write "Us" or "the Playerbase" instead... but in this case it's simply pluralis maiestatis) and keep on ranting and attacking anything that dares to come near.
Sure there is one or two different threads, good threads but they usually drown in the above stuff not long after been posted.
But all that is made possible by 2 Factors:
1. Gaming Forums are generally a very hostile territory, especially if it is Multiplayer oriented but it does spill over to singleplayer games from time to time and it's growing, I don't know exactly why but most likely due to the inherent Competition in MP Games and the anonymity of the Internet
2. As my experience shows me (and I just might be very unlucky) Star Trek Fans (real Fans not just people with some interest) are ironically the most ignorant, aggressive, close-minded, self-centered, flagellantic and zealous people around as I lamented in a previous post of mine in one of those "Dinos?! Seriously?!"-Threads which promotes this "You have to listen to ONLY ME! You have to answer to MY POST immediately and better say YES or I drag you down into the mud!" we see so often here and even in this thread as most people still confuse "to listen" with "do everything I say".
So we're bound to have situations where something is stated, Dev says "We listen" and people go apesh*t because they associate "We listen" directly without any other consideration with "We're gonna do that! Just wait!" because they see themselves as the ultimum of Trek-Knowledge and so it doesn't occure to them that someone might not think they are right.
These two factors, being brought together in a MMOG, are more or less self-propelled, fueled by one another, intesifying each step...
I for one am still surprised that there are still people (not just Cryptic or PWE) in this world that dare to get involved with this Combination (Star Trek & Gaming), I would have quit long ago, no money in the world would be worth the psychological damage that is to suffer when being exposed to us for to long.
With the whining, insults, entitlement, and victim complexes, I wouldn't post here if I were a developer. The way some people on here act, you would think that Cryptic was a bunch of baby-eating ogres that like to kick puppies and stomp kittens. Which, of course, they are not.
On the forums? Shortly after Season 5 was released.
In the game: Upcoming season 8... The rep-system (for dysons command at least) has gotten some good upgrades, and the space adventure zone is something i've seen requested more than just a few times.