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D'deridex a warbird not a cruiser
mirrorshatner
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As above, yes that's always been the case, but with the DD having a turning circle the size of a planetary orbit. Cruisers have shared that problem - but not anymore - cruisers get cruiser commands and can buff their own turn rate.
Fair? Well cruisers don't have singularity powers, but now they can increase their own turn rate.
Leaves the DD as the worst turning ship in the game.
Fair? Well cruisers don't have singularity powers, but now they can increase their own turn rate.
Leaves the DD as the worst turning ship in the game.
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With beam weapons enjoying a resurgence to power you really just need to adjust how you play and stop moaning
Sing powers are much more valuable and OP than a measly 3 at best increase in turn rate and let's face it if your using something other than the weapon boost on the cruiser powers your a noob and need your head looking at
BEHOLD!
My character Tsin'xing
You can't fly it as an escort, I have found the most efficient tactic is decloak at 3km, Pop rapid fire/EptW/Beta/Tacteam/Tractor beam and just blow the target to bits. Then either rotate if your next target is left/right of you or cloak/subspace jump if they are behind you.
Here's my build, I'm more than happy with how it preforms in PvE's (Can just about hold it's own in kerrat too!)
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=rrwsajuuk_0
I completely agree with you, but this is just not how STO mechanics work. There is always this one build which far exceeds all other options. The sad thing about the D'D is that it would only need ONE more Lt Eng station and you'd see it everywhere in PvP. Even if it would loose its LtC Sci station in exchange for that it would be so much more powerful in comparison. But since this is not the case it remains a pure vanity PvE ship, just like the Fed Galaxy.
Go fly the haakona, leave my D'd alone.
So if you really want to make that D'D turn there are ways.
*pat pat* shhh ... it's alright. No one is gonna take your D'Derpidex. :rolleyes:
Romulans do not have Cruisers
Federation and Klingons do
Here is the link
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=890841
Cruisers
Ships that fall into this category receive all four Cruiser Commands. Below is a list of ships that are classified as Cruisers:
Federation
Battle Cruisers
Ships that fall into this category receive three Cruiser Commands: Command - Strategic Maneuvering, Command - Shield Frequency Modulation and Command - Weapon System Efficiency. Below is a list of ships that are classified as Battle Cruisers:
Federation
Klingon Empire
You seem to be applying the same brush to all Romulan warbirds, when there are only a couple that have the traditional "cruiser" characteristics. The D'deridex is one of them.
The only others are Ha'apax and Haakona.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Romulan_playable_starship
Also, not every cruiser on Federation and Klingon got the same amount of powers. The TOS 1966 Constitution got all four powers (!), the D7/K'tinga only got 3 of them.
This post answers your question if you want that big ship to turn u are gonna have to give up some tankiness to make it happean. Which is a fair trade off keeps the game balanced also another person hit the nail on the head it's a big ship it's not made to fly like an escort if you had a ship that could tank and do great dps there would be no point In having other ships in game now would they.
Well, running 1 atb instead of 2 is good enough for most pvp engagements cmobined with decloack and the allmighty crth crthd buff romulan boffs come with youll have plenty of firepower to end the engagement. If it takes much longer than that youre allready in a situation where disengaging is the best thing to do. At least most times.
tactical initiative plus singulrity overload can go a long way to compensate for the loss of the secont atb.
Ok, than the Bird Of Prey is not an escort, it is a Bird Of Prey.
Raptors are not heavy escort, they are raptors.
It is called:
D'deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser, which makes it battle cruiser
Go to the shipyard and uncheck the "Warbird" category.
Can you still find the D'D in the list of purchaseable ships? No?
That's because it's a Warbird.
STO term battlecruiser genearlly refers to a engineer type ship that can equip dhcs and has enough manuverability to use them. Until recently, that was the KDF's claim to fame. The Avneger provides that kind of gameplay to the feds, now. The Romulans don't have anything in this ball park. They have warbirds that turn like cruisers but can use dhcs for decloaking alphas. They (D'D, Ha'pax, and Hakona) are poorly equipped to dog fight with dhcs without cloaking. Bear in mind that no battlcruiser to date has battlecloak. 100% fair trade off.
All the "Romulans are OP" talk aside, both ships are the slowest Romulan vessels there are, they don't have any unique abilities that would differentiate them from the Scimitar for example, they can barely turn and are generally underwhelming compared to other ships available.
For example, the Tal Shiar Battle Cruiser has better turn rate, can cloak, has sensor analysis and a set of three Comm Array commands. The D'deridex has worse turn rate, no special abilities other than singularity stuff (at the expense of -40 power) and no comm array powers. It only has battle cloak, to its advantage.
Yes, Romulans as a whole need to be balanced. Their traits are ridiculous, certain ships are overpowered and so on. Still, I just think that giving the older ships something to make them more in line with the rest is in order. It's a similar issue like the one with the Galaxy. Just give the D'deridex and the Ha'apax at least two Comm Array abilities to at least lessen the gap between them and the Scimitar everyone's flying now.
I vote for Strategic Maneuvering and Attract Fire to be added to the D'deri and the Ha'apax. I mean, if the Ha'nom can use sensor analysis and subsystem targeting, like a proper science vessel, then romulan battlecruisers should receive cruiser powers as well.
The Tal Shiar battlecruiser is also not a warbird and thus has no singularly powers, Romulan battle cloak gives you a better turn boost than the comm arrays already.
Technically it is a D'D, but with a Warp Core rather than a Singularity core, thus it looses its Singularity powers. The Adapted Battlecruiser with the adapted set, the borg set and the borg tech set, along with Comm Array is darn near indestructible.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
If the D'deridex *only* got the "increase threat" ATTRACT FIRE command - would that make it more OP?
If the D'deridex *only* got the "increase turn" STRATEGIC MANEUVERING - would that make it more OP?
Until now, the Sovereign started with a turn rate of 7 - which is already 2 points higher than the D'deridex. Now with the Aura it can add +3 which puts it even further ahead.
Battlecloak turn doesn't make up for that, and it's not "always on"
and the TS adapted battle cruiser is not a warbird = no singularly powers.
'66 Constitution qualified as Heavy Cruiser in it's day. Now it's a light CRUISER small but tough.
26th Fleet
O yes, i just bought Tal Shiar Battle Cruiser (90 mil EC) and already had Destroyer so i completed the set.
Before the comm array in was around 70 mil.
This thing now is indestructible tank with so much firepower.
And once in a while I'll equip quad disruptors on it just for fun. I know it's probably a detriment.. buuuuuuut.. I love how it looks when that beast of a warbird swoops in while decloaking and those things start firing.
I'm easily amused.
There used to be a similar outcry about Tauren in classic WoW. The model was so big, its run animation moved slower... but the actual character had the same run speed as every other race. People kept complaining that the Tauren were slower than other races, but they weren't. The animation was just slower because of how tall the Tauren were.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.