Because they are smart and don't want that old piece of TRIBBLE as a top tier ship.
You mean they prefer older pieces of TRIBBLE from Enterprise, one of which was blown apart, on-screen with a single torpedo volley from a TOS Constitution.
We are fighting against the Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, Tal Shiar, and Elachi so it makes sense to capture their ships, figure everything about them, and use them if possible. Ferengi are willing to sell anything to make a profit. The only ships that don't make sense are the Temporal ships since it doesn't make sense for 29th Century Starfleet to not put self-destruct mechanisms on their ships to maintain the Temporal Prime Directive. Especially with what happened to Braxton's ship.
You mean like Kirk kept commanding the Bounty after Star Trek IV? Or all the Dominion, Cardassian and Breen ships Starfleet captured and used during the actual Dominion War?:rolleyes:
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I see them doing this with one or two but not hundreds of them. It would take enormous engineering to retrofit these ships versus known Federation/Klingon ships.
There is no logical reason why "CBS" would forbid a movie T5 Connie. I can see Cryptic doing this to preemptively pacify the player objections though.
I see my characters as the Kirk of the early 25th Century. So there is not thousands of Vice Admirals running around doing the exact same content, there is just me and a few other Vice Admirals that are doing regular Vice Admiral content which means not saving the galaxy numerous times.
no they are too close. the only X factor is their capatins
I agree. Ultimately each ship is a series of phaser banks and torpedos. How will they perform? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Spock makes a reference to this when talking about the Kobayashi Maru in TWoK though I don't recall the exact quote. I wish STO would have stayed away from ship classes for this reason as well as assigning marks/types to weaponry. In canon, types 1, 2, and 3 were personnel phasers, and types 4 and above were ship-mounted weapons.
I would hazard a guess they say no to a T5 connie because of the new trek movies and the redisgned connie. The new movies are created under license from CBS so allowing a T5 connie could be an issue with the license between Paramount and CBS as well as CBS and PWE.
As for all the T5 connie, why not an endgame connie with full boff layout but console and weapons left as the low tier ship is with each ship of that tier done as well. then create versions of STF's and other events that is locked to only those ships can be used and those ships cannot be used in T5 ship content. Like having shuttle missions they can have special missions for slightly improved versions of those ships. Wont be T5 but wont be T1 either just endgame special ships for special queue missions or solo play. Everyone would be happy and yay more new content!
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The only reason CBS ever gave through Cryptic was that they didn't want it performing as well as the modern enterprise classes.
I tried to get more out of the company with some emails but they never responded.
But now you can hear people spew the same old hypocrisy like "its too old" or "it was discontinued for a reason" when they don't have any proof of either being true.
You mean like Kirk kept commanding the Bounty after Star Trek IV? Or all the Dominion, Cardassian and Breen ships Starfleet captured and used during the actual Dominion War?:rolleyes:
I am referring to the common practice of renaming captured enemy ships and putting them into service that has been done for hundreds of years. The Federation is at war on countless fronts so it makes sense to use captured ships to replace destroyed Starfleet ships. For the Klingon Empire, it is common practice to steal enemy ships since they have the Orions, Gorn, and Nausicaans.
The Defiant is basically a flying weapon, designed for war. Basically anywhere you hit the thing with a couple quantums and it would of went boom. Depending on where the Defiant hit the Lakota it might have heavily damaged it but the ship could survive.
The Captain of the Lakota held back and obviously Warf did too, but if Captain Benteen didn't hold back I think they would of destroyed the Defiant.
Quite frankly if you have two equal or like forces and if one is holding back and one isn't...the one not holding back is bound to be the victor
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I would hazard a guess they say no to a T5 connie because of the new trek movies and the redisgned connie. The new movies are created under license from CBS so allowing a T5 connie could be an issue with the license between Paramount and CBS as well as CBS and PWE.
I don't understand that argument -
the "JJTrek" Enterprise is different to both the TOS (1966) Constitution),
and the Enterprise A/Refit
The only reason CBS ever gave through Cryptic was that they didn't want it performing as well as the modern enterprise classes.
Which IMHO is another reason why the weapon layout for each ship should have been hard-coded to canon instead of having the option to change the weapon layout and weapon strength. If they would have done this then a skilled player could have taken an older ship into combat and still perform admirably alongside newer ships.
I see my characters as the Kirk of the early 25th Century. So there is not thousands of Vice Admirals running around doing the exact same content, there is just me and a few other Vice Admirals that are doing regular Vice Admiral content which means not saving the galaxy numerous times.
Even so, it would be more likely that your Kirk would be commanding a modernized T5 Connie than a lock box ship.
3 weapons fore, 2 Aft. 3 Engineering slots, 2 Sci, 2 Tac.
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Specail Console set that allows it to fire a Plaentary Disruptor cannon, (console desgin thanks to a one Mr. Dukat via a Mr. Garak)..........
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AHHH but think of the money CBS and PWE would make off a T5 Connie based off of all the give me a T5 connie threads lol....i like the ship but i don't want one myself just sayin
im pretty sure cbs does not make money off of the games performance, cryptic pays a flat fee to them for the rights to the ip..
also, way way back in the time machine of when the game was new, and this topic wasn't old and kicked like a dead horse a thousand times, I believe one of the devs had made some sort of statement that cbs was trying to move the franchise forward, which is why they say no to the t5 connie.. I could be wrong, but that sticks in my head for some reason.. and id love to search for said post, but I think it was lost in the forum changeover like so many other posts.. infact, if I remember correctly, there was talk about how the connie almost didn't make it into the game at all, and that it took a lot of tweaking to get them to say yes..
so be happy its in the game in the first place, and lets let it be, it will NEVER HAPPEN. the end.. almost 4 years of it getting shot down, not even en inkling of hope has ever been shed on the situation, "it's dead jim.."
now that that's settled..
devs, get me my Niagra class... lol..
im pretty sure cbs does not make money off of the games performance, cryptic pays a flat fee to them for the rights to the ip..
also, way way back in the time machine of when the game was new, and this topic wasn't old and kicked like a dead horse a thousand times, I believe one of the devs had made some sort of statement that cbs was trying to move the franchise forward, which is why they say no to the t5 connie.. I could be wrong, but that sticks in my head for some reason.. and id love to search for said post, but I think it was lost in the forum changeover like so many other posts.. infact, if I remember correctly, there was talk about how the connie almost didn't make it into the game at all, and that it took a lot of tweaking to get them to say yes..
so be happy its in the game in the first place, and lets let it be, it will NEVER HAPPEN. the end.. almost 4 years of it getting shot down, not even en inkling of hope has ever been shed on the situation, "it's dead jim.."
now that that's settled..
devs, get me my Niagra class... lol..
Still doesn't shed any light on whether it's the 1966 TOS Enterprise or the Enterprise A/Refit.
If they said no to 1966 TOS Enterprise then the Enterprise A/Refit is fair game.
If they said no to the Enterprise A/Refit then the 1966 TOS Enterprise is fair game.
And in either case, the Reliant doesn't enter into either discussion on the official stance.
I don't understand that argument -
the "JJTrek" Enterprise is different to both the TOS (1966) Constitution),
and the Enterprise A/Refit
You dont understand because you are thinking copyrigjht for the art assets rather than the 2 competing against each other. CBS and Paramount do not want or need competition between the new movies from other media, thus a powerfull T5 Constitution class starship in STO would not be desired as it would compete against the movie design in being the Enterprise. This would affect merchandise sales and getting young people who has never seen TOS or the original movies interested in the new design and the new movies themselves so they will want to see the next movie.
License holders do this all the time when the IP is being rebooted, take Batman for instance. when the bat mobile was redisgned the old one was not allowed in other media or if it was already used would not be allowed to make it better or as good as the new version. That happened 2 times. CBS and Paramount have the new Constitution class design and would rather the old be swept under the rug and forgotten so they can make money off it.
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Even so, it would be more likely that your Kirk would be commanding a modernized T5 Connie than a lock box ship.
You mean like a Sovereign or Odyssey? If Kirk was around in the 25th Century, then he would not be using a 150 year old ship. I am sure that he would use the best ship available since he did use that Klingon ship so he would use a lockbox ship.
The whole Kirk of the 25th Century means that my character is the chosen one. So all the interesting stuff happens to me. I save the Federation on numerous occasions. So by saying my character is the Kirk of the 25th Century doesn't mean my character has the same tastes in ship aesthetics or has the same type of personality. It just means that my character is the main protagonist of the story and all other characters are merely secondary characters just like from another player's perspective, their character is the main protagonist and my character is merely a secondary character. It is just something that has to happen due to players doing the same content. After all, it makes no sense to save a planet from destruction and 5 minutes later they are suffering from the same disaster.
You dont understand because you are thinking copyrigjht for the art assets rather than the 2 competing against each other. CBS and Paramount do not want or need competition between the new movies from other media, thus a powerfull T5 Constitution class starship in STO would not be desired as it would compete against the movie design in being the Enterprise. This would affect merchandise sales and getting young people who has never seen TOS or the original movies interested in the new design and the new movies themselves so they will want to see the next movie.
License holders do this all the time when the IP is being rebooted, take Batman for instance. when the bat mobile was redisgned the old one was not allowed in other media or if it was already used would not be allowed to make it better or as good as the new version. That happened 2 times. CBS and Paramount have the new Constitution class design and would rather the old be swept under the rug and forgotten so they can make money off it.
OK I see what you're saying now.
I also saw this article which seems to say the opposite.
The thread is about what exactly the Official statement/stance from CBS is.
And nobody here can/will provide that.
And there has been at least 10 previous threads exactly like this.. so point not taken.. sure no one says why not, and that is because cbs doesn't have to tell us, and probably never will...
I don't get why people are so worried about a t5 connie or Miranda, when the game is getting flushed down the toilet with t-rexes with lazer beams on their heads.. honestly, there are bigger problems than this to be worked out..
Still doesn't shed any light on whether it's the 1966 TOS Enterprise or the Enterprise A/Refit.
If they said no to 1966 TOS Enterprise then the Enterprise A/Refit is fair game.
If they said no to the Enterprise A/Refit then the 1966 TOS Enterprise is fair game.
And in either case, the Reliant doesn't enter into either discussion on the official stance.
im pretty sure they made a list of ships that they wanted to keep more or less out of the game, or restricted to opening scenes, making them useless at endgame.. (since we do not have a tos, tmp, Miranda, oberth, or nx at t5..) im pretty shure they put the kybosh on anything below (screen time) next generation.. (excluding the excelsior, im sure if cryptic and cbs could go back in time, that ship would never have made t5)..
like I said, I wasn't trying to be a Debbie downer on everyone, just saying what I remember reading.. which was cbs wanted to move the ip away from the original series and tmp era.. I mean, almost every game revolves around it as is.. most of the good games were in that time era only..
And there has been at least 10 previous threads exactly like this.. so point not taken.. sure no one says why not, and that is because cbs doesn't have to tell us, and probably never will...
I don't get why people are so worried about a t5 connie or Miranda, when the game is getting flushed down the toilet with t-rexes with lazer beams on their heads.. honestly, there are bigger problems than this to be worked out..
^ That quote wasn't directed at you - that was at the off topic sarcasm
You dont understand because you are thinking copyrigjht for the art assets rather than the 2 competing against each other. CBS and Paramount do not want or need competition between the new movies from other media, thus a powerfull T5 Constitution class starship in STO would not be desired as it would compete against the movie design in being the Enterprise. This would affect merchandise sales and getting young people who has never seen TOS or the original movies interested in the new design and the new movies themselves so they will want to see the next movie.
License holders do this all the time when the IP is being rebooted, take Batman for instance. when the bat mobile was redisgned the old one was not allowed in other media or if it was already used would not be allowed to make it better or as good as the new version. That happened 2 times. CBS and Paramount have the new Constitution class design and would rather the old be swept under the rug and forgotten so they can make money off it.
not that im even remotely for a t5 connie, you do know that cbs has nothing (absolutely nothing) to do with jjverse right... thus, they could care less if they have the tmp or original connie competing with the dreaded jjverse ship..
The thread is about what exactly the Official statement/stance from CBS is.
And nobody here can/will provide that.
No I know what it's about, and this particular way of passive-aggressively asking of the T5 Connie isn't new or unique in its conversation.
And their might not BE an official statement, you ever think about that? CBS doesn't answer to the player base, nor answers to Cryptic. Cryptic has to answer to CBS. So I'm positive that if PWE/Cryptic could make a T5 Connie, they would, simply because they could charge 5000 zen for it, and make a fortune.
But CBS doesn't have to give them a reason. They can simply say "no" and that's the official statement.
It's also possible that you can't get the answer because of legal reasons. Or its possible that we can't get the official reason because Cryptic is holding out hope that one day CBS will say yes, and misquoting them or running the risk of pissing of CBS would be akin to biting the hand that feeds them.
In the long run, who cares what the reason is why CBS said no. The answer is no, has been no since the game launched and the first time someone asked for a top tier connie, has been no for every time someone asked the question "why not", and has been no regardless of how many times and ways it's been asked.
So literacy has nothing to do with it, its a dead horse, beaten and kicked so much that it's nothing more then a red splotch on the ground, that keeps being kicked by people that just can't accept the answer "no".
^ That quote wasn't directed at you - that was at the off topic sarcasm
ahhh, lol, sorry, Im just kinda tired.. getting ready for bed (this is usually the time I try to avoid being on the forums as it gets me in the most trouble, you know, when your filter is off lol...)
You mean like a Sovereign or Odyssey? If Kirk was around in the 25th Century, then he would not be using a 150 year old ship. I am sure that he would use the best ship available since he did use that Klingon ship so he would use a lockbox ship.
The whole Kirk of the 25th Century means that my character is the chosen one. So all the interesting stuff happens to me. I save the Federation on numerous occasions. So by saying my character is the Kirk of the 25th Century doesn't mean my character has the same tastes in ship aesthetics or has the same type of personality. It just means that my character is the main protagonist of the story and all other characters are merely secondary characters just like from another player's perspective, their character is the main protagonist and my character is merely a secondary character. It is just something that has to happen due to players doing the same content. After all, it makes no sense to save a planet from destruction and 5 minutes later they are suffering from the same disaster.
An Excelsior, or maybe not. Even Scotty hated big buckets of bolts. Kirk used the Bird of Prey temporarily. They didn't fish it out of the bay, retrofit it and give him command after. That's the definition of a lock box ship.
There is no logical reason why "CBS" would forbid someone's chosen one a modernized T5 Connie to command. They supposedly approved lock box ships and for all we know those ship could be a thousand years old.
sometimes i wish moderators would close these T5 connie posts but free speech and all , Its not a viable ship to compete with its successors , because, and bonus internet points if you guess it
It was succeeded for a reason, its successor is a more capable starship thats why they were built, i don't see many people driving Model T Fords, do you?
Deal with it, move on and fly a T5 ship if you want to play endgame, or fly you precioius museum piece and deal with how outdated it is
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sometimes i wish moderators would close these T5 connie posts but free speech and all , Its not a viable ship to compete with its successors , because, and bonus internet points if you guess it
It was succeeded for a reason, its successor is a more capable starship thats why they were built, i don't see many people driving Model T Fords, do you?
Deal with it, move on and fly a T5 ship if you want to play endgame, or fly you precioius museum piece and deal with how outdated it is
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IIRC he was not even on board.
You mean they prefer older pieces of TRIBBLE from Enterprise, one of which was blown apart, on-screen with a single torpedo volley from a TOS Constitution.
You mean like Kirk kept commanding the Bounty after Star Trek IV? Or all the Dominion, Cardassian and Breen ships Starfleet captured and used during the actual Dominion War?:rolleyes:
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I see my characters as the Kirk of the early 25th Century. So there is not thousands of Vice Admirals running around doing the exact same content, there is just me and a few other Vice Admirals that are doing regular Vice Admiral content which means not saving the galaxy numerous times.
I agree. Ultimately each ship is a series of phaser banks and torpedos. How will they perform? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Spock makes a reference to this when talking about the Kobayashi Maru in TWoK though I don't recall the exact quote. I wish STO would have stayed away from ship classes for this reason as well as assigning marks/types to weaponry. In canon, types 1, 2, and 3 were personnel phasers, and types 4 and above were ship-mounted weapons.
As for all the T5 connie, why not an endgame connie with full boff layout but console and weapons left as the low tier ship is with each ship of that tier done as well. then create versions of STF's and other events that is locked to only those ships can be used and those ships cannot be used in T5 ship content. Like having shuttle missions they can have special missions for slightly improved versions of those ships. Wont be T5 but wont be T1 either just endgame special ships for special queue missions or solo play. Everyone would be happy and yay more new content!
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I tried to get more out of the company with some emails but they never responded.
But now you can hear people spew the same old hypocrisy like "its too old" or "it was discontinued for a reason" when they don't have any proof of either being true.
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I am referring to the common practice of renaming captured enemy ships and putting them into service that has been done for hundreds of years. The Federation is at war on countless fronts so it makes sense to use captured ships to replace destroyed Starfleet ships. For the Klingon Empire, it is common practice to steal enemy ships since they have the Orions, Gorn, and Nausicaans.
The Captain of the Lakota held back and obviously Warf did too, but if Captain Benteen didn't hold back I think they would of destroyed the Defiant.
Quite frankly if you have two equal or like forces and if one is holding back and one isn't...the one not holding back is bound to be the victor
I don't understand that argument -
the "JJTrek" Enterprise is different to both the TOS (1966) Constitution),
and the Enterprise A/Refit
Which IMHO is another reason why the weapon layout for each ship should have been hard-coded to canon instead of having the option to change the weapon layout and weapon strength. If they would have done this then a skilled player could have taken an older ship into combat and still perform admirably alongside newer ships.
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I would prefer a T5 Tuffli.
3 weapons fore, 2 Aft. 3 Engineering slots, 2 Sci, 2 Tac.
29k Hull, 1.1 shield Mod, 5 Turn rate. Can Equip dual cannons.
Specail Console set that allows it to fire a Plaentary Disruptor cannon, (console desgin thanks to a one Mr. Dukat via a Mr. Garak)..........
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im pretty sure cbs does not make money off of the games performance, cryptic pays a flat fee to them for the rights to the ip..
also, way way back in the time machine of when the game was new, and this topic wasn't old and kicked like a dead horse a thousand times, I believe one of the devs had made some sort of statement that cbs was trying to move the franchise forward, which is why they say no to the t5 connie.. I could be wrong, but that sticks in my head for some reason.. and id love to search for said post, but I think it was lost in the forum changeover like so many other posts.. infact, if I remember correctly, there was talk about how the connie almost didn't make it into the game at all, and that it took a lot of tweaking to get them to say yes..
so be happy its in the game in the first place, and lets let it be, it will NEVER HAPPEN. the end.. almost 4 years of it getting shot down, not even en inkling of hope has ever been shed on the situation, "it's dead jim.."
now that that's settled..
devs, get me my Niagra class... lol..
Still doesn't shed any light on whether it's the 1966 TOS Enterprise or the Enterprise A/Refit.
If they said no to 1966 TOS Enterprise then the Enterprise A/Refit is fair game.
If they said no to the Enterprise A/Refit then the 1966 TOS Enterprise is fair game.
And in either case, the Reliant doesn't enter into either discussion on the official stance.
What you can't buy is literacy.
The thread is about what exactly the Official statement/stance from CBS is.
And nobody here can/will provide that.
You dont understand because you are thinking copyrigjht for the art assets rather than the 2 competing against each other. CBS and Paramount do not want or need competition between the new movies from other media, thus a powerfull T5 Constitution class starship in STO would not be desired as it would compete against the movie design in being the Enterprise. This would affect merchandise sales and getting young people who has never seen TOS or the original movies interested in the new design and the new movies themselves so they will want to see the next movie.
License holders do this all the time when the IP is being rebooted, take Batman for instance. when the bat mobile was redisgned the old one was not allowed in other media or if it was already used would not be allowed to make it better or as good as the new version. That happened 2 times. CBS and Paramount have the new Constitution class design and would rather the old be swept under the rug and forgotten so they can make money off it.
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You mean like a Sovereign or Odyssey? If Kirk was around in the 25th Century, then he would not be using a 150 year old ship. I am sure that he would use the best ship available since he did use that Klingon ship so he would use a lockbox ship.
The whole Kirk of the 25th Century means that my character is the chosen one. So all the interesting stuff happens to me. I save the Federation on numerous occasions. So by saying my character is the Kirk of the 25th Century doesn't mean my character has the same tastes in ship aesthetics or has the same type of personality. It just means that my character is the main protagonist of the story and all other characters are merely secondary characters just like from another player's perspective, their character is the main protagonist and my character is merely a secondary character. It is just something that has to happen due to players doing the same content. After all, it makes no sense to save a planet from destruction and 5 minutes later they are suffering from the same disaster.
OK I see what you're saying now.
I also saw this article which seems to say the opposite.
http://www.slashfilm.com/complicated-star-trek-rights-could-push-j-j-abrams-into-a-multimedia-star-wars-universe/
And there has been at least 10 previous threads exactly like this.. so point not taken.. sure no one says why not, and that is because cbs doesn't have to tell us, and probably never will...
I don't get why people are so worried about a t5 connie or Miranda, when the game is getting flushed down the toilet with t-rexes with lazer beams on their heads.. honestly, there are bigger problems than this to be worked out..
im pretty sure they made a list of ships that they wanted to keep more or less out of the game, or restricted to opening scenes, making them useless at endgame.. (since we do not have a tos, tmp, Miranda, oberth, or nx at t5..) im pretty shure they put the kybosh on anything below (screen time) next generation.. (excluding the excelsior, im sure if cryptic and cbs could go back in time, that ship would never have made t5)..
like I said, I wasn't trying to be a Debbie downer on everyone, just saying what I remember reading.. which was cbs wanted to move the ip away from the original series and tmp era.. I mean, almost every game revolves around it as is.. most of the good games were in that time era only..
What you can't buy is literacy.
The thread is about what exactly the Official statement/stance from CBS is.
And nobody here can/will provide that.
^ That quote wasn't directed at you - that was at the off topic sarcasm
not that im even remotely for a t5 connie, you do know that cbs has nothing (absolutely nothing) to do with jjverse right... thus, they could care less if they have the tmp or original connie competing with the dreaded jjverse ship..
No I know what it's about, and this particular way of passive-aggressively asking of the T5 Connie isn't new or unique in its conversation.
And their might not BE an official statement, you ever think about that? CBS doesn't answer to the player base, nor answers to Cryptic. Cryptic has to answer to CBS. So I'm positive that if PWE/Cryptic could make a T5 Connie, they would, simply because they could charge 5000 zen for it, and make a fortune.
But CBS doesn't have to give them a reason. They can simply say "no" and that's the official statement.
It's also possible that you can't get the answer because of legal reasons. Or its possible that we can't get the official reason because Cryptic is holding out hope that one day CBS will say yes, and misquoting them or running the risk of pissing of CBS would be akin to biting the hand that feeds them.
In the long run, who cares what the reason is why CBS said no. The answer is no, has been no since the game launched and the first time someone asked for a top tier connie, has been no for every time someone asked the question "why not", and has been no regardless of how many times and ways it's been asked.
So literacy has nothing to do with it, its a dead horse, beaten and kicked so much that it's nothing more then a red splotch on the ground, that keeps being kicked by people that just can't accept the answer "no".
ahhh, lol, sorry, Im just kinda tired.. getting ready for bed (this is usually the time I try to avoid being on the forums as it gets me in the most trouble, you know, when your filter is off lol...)
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An Excelsior, or maybe not. Even Scotty hated big buckets of bolts. Kirk used the Bird of Prey temporarily. They didn't fish it out of the bay, retrofit it and give him command after. That's the definition of a lock box ship.
There is no logical reason why "CBS" would forbid someone's chosen one a modernized T5 Connie to command. They supposedly approved lock box ships and for all we know those ship could be a thousand years old.
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It was succeeded for a reason, its successor is a more capable starship thats why they were built, i don't see many people driving Model T Fords, do you?
Deal with it, move on and fly a T5 ship if you want to play endgame, or fly you precioius museum piece and deal with how outdated it is
^^^^ this 110% couldn't have said it better myself..