The roleplayers in the chat channel 'SB381' discriminate against non-roleplayers. They initially ignore anyone not roleplaying, and if you refuse to roleplay they will refuse to send an invite to their fleet's Starbase. It's that simple...
Don't expect to be treated equally unless you are willing to modify your behavior to suit their preferences. They DO NOT treat non-roleplayers with respect.
Why are you even in that channel if not for roleplaying? As far as I know the channel and starbase owners are exclusively looking for roleplayers. If you are just looking for an invitation to a maxed starbase you are better off by joining NoP Public Service.
I see...
One was trying to get easy access to Fleet Stuff (or thought it would be easy access to it due to the Guestblog) but got refused and now is pissed...
That's like complaining about an icehockey team discriminating against a baseball player wanting in on the team and their playingfield to play baseball.
Why is it that every time there's a Guest Blog about something in the game done by players for players, it seems to start people off on silly season?
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
The roleplayers in the chat channel 'SB381' discriminate against non-roleplayers. They initially ignore anyone not roleplaying, and if you refuse to roleplay they will refuse to send an invite to their fleet's Starbase. It's that simple...
Don't expect to be treated equally unless you are willing to modify your behavior to suit their preferences. They DO NOT treat non-roleplayers with respect.
Ever thought about humoring them for five seconds and request docking permission, like it says in the blog, before complaining about how they refuse to let you use their starbase as a shopping mall?
The roleplayers in the chat channel 'SB381' discriminate against non-roleplayers. They initially ignore anyone not roleplaying, and if you refuse to roleplay they will refuse to send an invite to their fleet's Starbase. It's that simple...
Don't expect to be treated equally unless you are willing to modify your behavior to suit their preferences. They DO NOT treat non-roleplayers with respect.
Maybe it would be helpfull to adapt? Remember the old proverb "When on Romulus do as the Romulans do"
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It's their fleet, it's their rules, they can run it how they want, and let in whoever they want.
Also isn't this technically naming and shamming
OP is just let us know that he is a TRIBBLE, he goes to a RP channel (private) and complain when he doesn't follow the rules...
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The roleplayers in the chat channel 'SB381' discriminate against non-roleplayers. They initially ignore anyone not roleplaying, and if you refuse to roleplay they will refuse to send an invite to their fleet's Starbase. It's that simple...
Don't expect to be treated equally unless you are willing to modify your behavior to suit their preferences. They DO NOT treat non-roleplayers with respect.
Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
You mean they kidnapped him to their Starbase and forced him, at phaserpoint, to roleplay?
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Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
As he is especially complaining that they do not respect Non-Roleplayers.. that possibility is very low.
Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
Regardless... He wants access to their base... They make the rules, and if he dosen't want to follow them, he is the one who has to either adjust or get lost (from their channel).
Personally I hate (yes... I really hate) roleplayers... They are disruptive and get in the way... 381 at least keeps their senseless babble in their own channel, and I support that strongly...
But I also stay out of their way and their channel, because we simply aren't compatible.
OP should do the same.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
He doesn't strictly identify himself as a non-roleplayer, but only talks about the channel members' treatment of people he explicitly identifies as non-roleplayers, nothing that can really read as a style or method conflict.
To go with the devil's advocate theem, I suppose it is arguably possible he's speaking as a roleplayer and complaining about 381's treatment of outsiders, which doesn't fit what I've heard second hand about the group, but kind of makes me want to lurk the channel to see for myself...
I'm a casual RPer, but I think it's pretty rude and arrogant when RPer's get mad about having their RP conversations disrupted when the RPer's insist on using public channels that are open to everyone.
That's what custom channels are for. RPers can make them public or private and moderate them accordingly.
If you insist on using the open channels you have to accept that non-RPer's will interrupt you. Just like if you go into a PvP zone you'll encounter PvPers who will gank you.
And if you choose to join a dedicated RP channel you can't get mad if you are booted for not RPing.
That's exactly my point... You hit the nail on the head.
Role-playing is just as disruptive to regular game-play, as Role-players being interrupted can be.
I don't seek out RP'ers do annoy them, like some do, but if they are somewhere where I have to be to do what I want to do, they are pr definition in my way, and disrupting my game-play, and as such I feel no obligation to respect theirs... Especially since I often find the RPing people do provocative... And I shouldn have to switch instance, to avoid them.
But when people bother making their own channel, and then offer their resources as a service to other people who want to use theirs, people should bend over and follow the confines set up by them...
They make an effort not to get in the way, then people who actively seek them out should play by their rules... not Vice versa.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Role-playing is just as disruptive to regular game-play, as Role-players being interrupted can be.
I don't seek out RP'ers do annoy them, like some do, but if they are somewhere where I have to be to do what I want to do, they are pr definition in my way, and disrupting my game-play, and as such I feel no obligation to respect theirs... Especially since I often find the RPing people do provocative... And I shouldn have to switch instance, to avoid them.
And yet, there's a reason STO is called an MMORPG ...
The roleplayers in the chat channel 'SB381' discriminate against non-roleplayers. They initially ignore anyone not roleplaying, and if you refuse to roleplay they will refuse to send an invite to their fleet's Starbase. It's that simple...
Don't expect to be treated equally unless you are willing to modify your behavior to suit their preferences. They DO NOT treat non-roleplayers with respect.
Respect =/= Giving you everything you want. They respect non-roleplayers just fine.... You attempting to disrupt their RP chat and ***** about wanting access to their facilities outside of their terms is what is disrespectful.
And yet, there's a reason STO is called an MMORPG ...
Correction... That's what you and some others call it... Most people I've spoken to call it a MMOG...
Futher supported by very few who seem to roleplay, and those who do, stick to specific areas.
And regardless what you call it or not, I don't roleplay... I never intended to roleplay and I never will...
Like most I meet, I am here to play a game... Not to imagine that I am some 25'th century Kirk.
Edit: Heck... even the webpage avoids the RolePlaying part of the MMO description:
In this free-to-play massively multiplayer online game from Cryptic Studios
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Just like to point out that this game was sub based it was marketed/advertised and sold under the Role-Playing category for years. Even after going F2P it could still be found under that heading.
It doesn't matter what people privately call it, if you are going to market/sell it as an RPG it's an RPG.
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Well I am not going into a argument over this... I admit, I was headed down that road, but I generally try to avoid de-railing threads... The above was a mistake (I still stand by my statements though).
REGARDLESS of what people call the game, The topic at hand, namely if the OP should follow said fleets rules or not, IMO still stands as the OP being wrong on the subject at hand.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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Why are you even in that channel if not for roleplaying? As far as I know the channel and starbase owners are exclusively looking for roleplayers. If you are just looking for an invitation to a maxed starbase you are better off by joining NoP Public Service.
One was trying to get easy access to Fleet Stuff (or thought it would be easy access to it due to the Guestblog) but got refused and now is pissed...
Also isn't this technically naming and shamming
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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Ever thought about humoring them for five seconds and request docking permission, like it says in the blog, before complaining about how they refuse to let you use their starbase as a shopping mall?
Maybe it would be helpfull to adapt? Remember the old proverb
"When on Romulus do as the Romulans do"
OP is just let us know that he is a TRIBBLE, he goes to a RP channel (private) and complain when he doesn't follow the rules...
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
Oh, cool, another RP channel !!!
I don't see what the hangup is, Brave New Worlds and all that.
But!... But!...
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Perhaps he is a roleplayer roleplaying that he is not roleplaying??, and by posting to this forums, he is actually roleplaying?? .. my head hurts...
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Is it just barely possible that the OP is complaining about being forced into Starbase 381's roleplay style rather than being able to use/continue their own style?
Just a slight possibility that I had not seen anyone bring up.
You mean they kidnapped him to their Starbase and forced him, at phaserpoint, to roleplay?
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
As he is especially complaining that they do not respect Non-Roleplayers.. that possibility is very low.
Regardless... He wants access to their base... They make the rules, and if he dosen't want to follow them, he is the one who has to either adjust or get lost (from their channel).
Personally I hate (yes... I really hate) roleplayers... They are disruptive and get in the way... 381 at least keeps their senseless babble in their own channel, and I support that strongly...
But I also stay out of their way and their channel, because we simply aren't compatible.
OP should do the same.
He doesn't strictly identify himself as a non-roleplayer, but only talks about the channel members' treatment of people he explicitly identifies as non-roleplayers, nothing that can really read as a style or method conflict.
To go with the devil's advocate theem, I suppose it is arguably possible he's speaking as a roleplayer and complaining about 381's treatment of outsiders, which doesn't fit what I've heard second hand about the group, but kind of makes me want to lurk the channel to see for myself...
That's exactly my point... You hit the nail on the head.
Role-playing is just as disruptive to regular game-play, as Role-players being interrupted can be.
I don't seek out RP'ers do annoy them, like some do, but if they are somewhere where I have to be to do what I want to do, they are pr definition in my way, and disrupting my game-play, and as such I feel no obligation to respect theirs... Especially since I often find the RPing people do provocative... And I shouldn have to switch instance, to avoid them.
But when people bother making their own channel, and then offer their resources as a service to other people who want to use theirs, people should bend over and follow the confines set up by them...
They make an effort not to get in the way, then people who actively seek them out should play by their rules... not Vice versa.
And yet, there's a reason STO is called an MMORPG ...
Respect =/= Giving you everything you want. They respect non-roleplayers just fine.... You attempting to disrupt their RP chat and ***** about wanting access to their facilities outside of their terms is what is disrespectful.
Correction... That's what you and some others call it... Most people I've spoken to call it a MMOG...
Futher supported by very few who seem to roleplay, and those who do, stick to specific areas.
And regardless what you call it or not, I don't roleplay... I never intended to roleplay and I never will...
Like most I meet, I am here to play a game... Not to imagine that I am some 25'th century Kirk.
Edit: Heck... even the webpage avoids the RolePlaying part of the MMO description:
Well I am not going into a argument over this... I admit, I was headed down that road, but I generally try to avoid de-railing threads... The above was a mistake (I still stand by my statements though).
REGARDLESS of what people call the game, The topic at hand, namely if the OP should follow said fleets rules or not, IMO still stands as the OP being wrong on the subject at hand.