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Avenger class aesthetic opinions?
edwardianed
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Personally, after seeing the screenshots in the latest Dev blog, I think the new Avenger class is an absolutely hideous monstrosity of a design.
I would be curious to know if my opinion is that of the minority or the majority, so what does everybody think? Badass starship with awesome looks; or bad starship with awful looks?
I would be curious to know if my opinion is that of the minority or the majority, so what does everybody think? Badass starship with awesome looks; or bad starship with awful looks?
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It's certainly better than the Bellerophon.
Jo Cox 22.6.1974 - 16.6.2016
I happen to think the Galaxy class is the greatest ship design in Trek (I even have a painting of her hanging on my study wall
but i remember when people first hated the odyssey then it grew on them. i remember not liking the sovereign at first then grew to love it so its always worth giving new ships a little time to sink in.
Why thank you. I do believe that we forumites can have a sensible discussion without resorting to verbally destroying everything we don't agree with :P
(Also, I fully recognise that starship design is contentious, and that there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" aesthetics; as my grandmother used to say "it takes all sorts to make a world").
The statement "It does not look like a Starfleet ship" confuses me. What does it look like? A Klingon ship? Cardassian? Borg? Khazon? What, tell me please. You want a ship that doesn't look Starfleet, go no farther than the Defiant.
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Have you even readed the last blog talking about the design process of the ship?
Of course I have. What does that have to do with anything?
I was responding to various comments around the forums saying it doesn't look Starfleet. It looks Starfleet to me.
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I dont think they're aggresive, and less the Galaxy, its looks diplomatic, serene, serious, but not aggresive. As some other stated here recently, Starfleet doesnt build ships to make war, but to end it. Other than that, pure functionality for exploration and deep space research.
Yeah, if we're talking "in-universe" reasons for starship design, the primary one is functionality. Starships are certain shapes to create the best potential warp field to facilitate to best possible fuel economy when traveling, whilst still being able to maintain the ships primary function (usually exploration, but not exclusively so).
Player A: I like blue!
Player B: No! Green is better!
Player A: You're an idiot for liking green! Everyone knows blue is best!
Both Player A & B: Blah, blah, blah.
If we all only liked the same thing we'd all only be flying around in a Sovereign.
So an escort would give me better DHC performance and the Excelsior is a nicer broadsider in my opinion.
I hope that doesn't mean me, I wasn't arguing, I was curious to see what other people thought i.e.
Player A: I don't like blue, does anyone else like blue?
Player B: Yeah, I quite like blue, why, do you like green?
Player A: Interesting, I always personally thought blue wasn't as good as green.
Player B: I wonder why it is that some people like blue and others green, let's gauge the opinions of others and perhaps we can find some reasoning behind peoples views for the purpose of polite conversational debate.
Both Player A & B: Blah, blah, blah.
Although, perhaps that version of events only exists in the polite fantasy land in my head, or at the very least, not on the internet
When the Dominion War was requiring a lot of resources and personal from starfleet, they built the Sovereign(Enterprise E), a Multipurpose ship. One that can stand alone against almost any threat from their time. Except to the Scimitar, because that ship, not the ingame one we have, the original, was a beast.
So yes, when the Federation need, they show teeths, It's like the Jedi-Clones fall into the Sith trap, but what else you could do? Stay put and watch the whole Federation burn?
About the design, what they need to take a look is the textures, hell... the Odissey has good textures, close to the Canon Ships, but then the Vesta was born and that ship is ugly, not because of it's shape, but because of the textures, looks like plastic in space.
The Avenger Class is following the same path... please Designers, use the same materials of the Sovereign or the Odissey, would make the ship great.
Or... want to go all the way to TAC? Make the Ship black! Like the USS Vegeance from the JJ TRIBBLE. Raw materials like metals and most of the alloys have cold and dark colors, so to be more economic, Starfleet stoped painting and spending resources in making the ships look shinny.
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Jean-Luc Picard
As it is now it looks like they added spots to direct torpedoes and such directly into the crew quarters.
If a more elegant/graceful design is available with the ship then I'll consider picking it up. It is my understanding, presently that this is the only option, so I won't be buying it.
I always thought the federation ships were meant to be graceful like a swan, instead they have become so brick like and ugly over the years, the klingon and Romulan ships are far more appealing.
Ive noticed this about starship design in TV, movies, games etc. They have shifted away from distinctive and memorable and replaced them with brick or blob like monsters.
You can have practical and graceful together.
Seems that the concept artists of today as technically brilliant as they are have zero asthetic sence.
If you liked the Vengeance, chances are you'll like the Avenger, and vice versa.
As in the weapon hardpoints, the enforced deflector and bussard collectors, the definition around the escape pods, and especially the array of impulse engines.
It looks like a practical design.
I would loose the fins on the outside of the warp nacelles but that's about it.
Definitly beats JJs MacapplePrize, but I guess that would be setting the standards too low.
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