When the game came out, once you used your free ship token, all the non c-store ships were listed for sale with EC, the expensive ones were 250,000 EC for RA level.
So, unless you know what you're talking about, shut the F up.
Hence I said "far as memory goes back." And no, my memory doesn't go back to the beginnings of this game. Which is precisely the point: starting a thread, complaining ships aren't for sale for EC is a certified way of saying he either hasn't played the game in years or is indeed, erm, certifiable. :P
The Op can ofcourse play and grind dilithium on one of his other characters and buy/sell zen to get the dilithium needed on his rom to buy the ship. So he really can enjoy the new ship for those 10 levels if he really wanted to.
I do agree the pricing for all the token ships is rather high for what you get, 80k for a T4 ship doesnt make much sense since you will outgrow it quickly enough. 200k for a T5 ship makes about as much sense considering there are mirror ships that can be purchased far cheaper.
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I was under the impression they added a ship for free. meaning when you hit level 30 your free choice is either a t4 ar'kif or a t4 d'deridex. you can only have 1 ship at each level for free.
if you want the variant with the quad cannons that's another choice. so your not forced to spend anything when you hit level 30.
personally I actually liked the fact a player was forced in to a d'deridex. it actually taught you about different ships and classes. some people while levelling would find they was either cruiser person or not. it's a learning curve and it was a short one at that. ok people might not have liked that going from the fast pace of an escort to the stupidly slow turn rate on a d'deridex. but wouldn't people hate it more if they bought the t5 c-store/fleet store cruisers and found out the hard way they didn't like them.
You aren't addressing the OP's concerns. Explain why those prices at those tiers are reasonable if by the time you've grinded enough dilithium for the other ship, you've leveled up to the next rank. Where's the logic in that? Why have those other options then if they aren't feasible?
Because you get a free token at each rank (up through RA) that gives you a free ship.
The 80k Dil only comes into play if you want to have more than one ship from that tier.
A T4 Refit is 1500 Zen. @126 Dil = 1 Zen, that's 189,000 Dil for a T4 Refit if somebody wanted that ship in addition to the free ship. 109k Dil more than a non-Refit T4 ship.
How is somebody going to grind 189k Dill for a second ship at T4?
The same way they would for the 80k Dil if they wanted another ship in addition to the free ship...
In the time one could spend arguing about the price of getting additional ships at T1-T4, they could hit T5... I don't get the issue.
The thing is that you don't need those other ships, get the other one for free and stuggle with it, if you rly rly rly want the other one, then pay for it.
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Because you get a free token at each rank (up through RA) that gives you a free ship..
this.
a perfectly viable ship at that.
you are going to out-level all the non VA ships relatively quickly anyway...not really worth buying them now when they will just be parked in a couple levels anyway as you lvl.
My current STO strategy for flying the ships I want:
the last few characters I have made, I power lvl'd to VA (very easy and very quick nowadays),,,"Then" I bought the ship I liked for that character, and 'then' began running episode missions, and other game content at VA in the new shiny ship. Seems to work better in the new game structure IMO.
you can argue "but, but I want a T3 or T4 ship !!...I can't fly that at VA !!!" that is only partly true....you can indeed fly them at VA....you'll just be a few consoles short of a higher tier ship.....but they are still perfectly viable in all standard content ( flying Kirks T1 connie is actually very fun and challenging when rerunning episodes at vice admiral IMO.... )
so yeah...
tl:dr don't buy ships while leveling, you'll outgrow them too fast, use the free ones they issue you.
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In the earliest days of STO, all ships were purchasable for EC. There were no c-store ships :cool:
Getting a Negh'var upon reaching BGen (max rank back then) only costed like 200k EC.
Good to know. I wasn't here then so I was unaware,... I passed on the Negh'var and bought a Raptor instead, because of the Turn rate/Inertia rating,... I've never regretted buying my Qin Raptor, it's been an awesome little ship for me.
As for the rest of the OP's case, it seems to be a case of buyers remorse. He didn't check up on the new stuff notes and bought a ship with his free token, right before they introduced a new, better ship for that rank.
If he had waited a day or more or read up on what was coming and waited, he'd have his Tactical Warbird, for free, and none of this would be an issue.
Simple, he bought, right before an update,... whether it's games, computers or cars,... it happens. New models come out on sometimes unpredictable schedules, and sometimes people end up with buyers remorse because the new model is intro'd right after them buying.
It's really a non-issue since all players NOW reaching 30, would have access to that ship with their free token,... Besides, he nor anyone else will spend enough time at 30 to be all that concerned about it. He'll be at 50 in a couple days/weeks, and need a better ship anyway,...
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I used my VA ship token the same way I ended up with a D'deridex retrofit instead of the arkif retrofit although that's different since I'm VA and that ships available for Zen.
If you are (say) level 32 when the new ship comes out, and you've already bought your T4 ship, your only option is to buy with dilithium.
If you're (say) 29 when the new ship comes out, no problem.
I too think the dilithium prices for the 'rank up' ships are way too high - and this is likely hurting Cryptic's profit margins too.
Imagine if you usually fly a Science ship, but had the option to try out a Tactical Escort for a cheap price. If you enjoy it, you might then be tempted to drop zen on the Retrofit version of that ship.
sorry to drop this in as a reply have no choice as i cant post my own thred why do i need a 7gb patch to play a mmorpg has this game got hd graphics or something???? or is the programming that rushed????
sorry to drop this in as a reply have no choice as i cant post my own thred why do i need a 7gb patch to play a mmorpg has this game got hd graphics or something???? or is the programming that rushed????
C-Store ships have been Zen or Dilithium for ages,... it was never EC as far as I know,...
As for the rest, 80k isn't that much and is inline with all the other pricings ranging from 80 to 120k,.... In fact I don't think they sell a ship that's NOT a shuttle or fighter, for less,...
They used to be purchased with ECs, but that was such a long time ago. I don't mind the dilithium cost since you get a free one anyway. I have no interest in switching between ships at low levels anyway.
The did this back during the emblem to dill cut over around the s5 changes. What your rant should be about is that it is not even possible for a level 30 - 40 captain to make much dilithium at all since most dilithium is made via emblem level missions which are va missions. you can get some in stfs at level 45 but at that point it is too late.
The only place for a captain at level 30 to make dilithium is by the foundry, pvp and tribble petting for 5 dil/hr.
Don't forget about doffs!
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
lol at all the newbz who think ships were never available for ECs!
Yes the cost of leveling ships is way too high considering you only get a few hours of play time out of them before you level again. It's very easy to go from 1 -> 50 in a few days. Most ships come with a universal console though and I guess that's how they are justifying their cost, however most of these consoles are available on the exchange thanks to lock boxes.
Hence I said "far as memory goes back." And no, my memory doesn't go back to the beginnings of this game. Which is precisely the point: starting a thread, complaining ships aren't for sale for EC is a certified way of saying he either hasn't played the game in years or is indeed, erm, certifiable. :P
OP isnt complaining that it doesnt cost EC. How many times do people have to spell it out for you?
LvL 30 Starship - 80,000 Dil =/= LvL 30 Player - Can Afford.
The OP is complaining that the price is outrageous. And this is evidence against the 'Everything you want in game you can get it without money' argument. Sure you can get this ship after grinding youre way up to LvL 50 but why would you?
Most ships come with a universal console though and I guess that's how they are justifying their cost, however most of these consoles are available on the exchange thanks to lock boxes.
You buy the ship, you have that console for everybody of that faction that you currently have or will ever have.
You buy the console off the Exchange or get it out of a Lockbox, you've got it for that toon.
OP isnt complaining that it doesnt cost EC. How many times do people have to spell it out for you?
LvL 30 Starship - 80,000 Dil =/= LvL 30 Player - Can Afford.
The OP is complaining that the price is outrageous. And this is evidence against the 'Everything you want in game you can get it without money' argument. Sure you can get this ship after grinding youre way up to LvL 50 but why would you?
Why would you need multiple ships for the length of time you're going to be at that Tier?
You buy the ship, you have that console for everybody of that faction that you currently have or will ever have.
You buy the console off the Exchange or get it out of a Lockbox, you've got it for that toon.
Precisely. However most consoles are cheap enough to justify buying them with EC's off the exchange. The exception would be faction limitations like for KDF you have to buy Plasmonic Leech or Feds would have to purchase Antimatter Spread using Zen. Most universal consoles are a waste anyway and STO is no longer an alt-friendly game.
Why would you need multiple ships for the length of time you're going to be at that Tier?
Precisely. Took me about 2 weeks to level up to lv. 50; and many there be who did it much faster, even. So, a Tier 4 ship is going to be with you for what, 3-4 days maybe? Tops.
As for too pricey. that's debatable. 80,000 is a little under half the price of a Tier 5 ship (and a good 100,000 skillpoints between Tier 4 and Tier 5). So it's not 'outrageously' priced in that sense at all.
The true mistake, really, is buying ships along the way to lv. 50, period. I did too, btw. But, in hindsight, that was clearly a mistake om my end; and I'm not afraid to admit it. In fact, to anyone who asks, I usually tell them to just keep their money in their pockets, and just wait a few days until they reached endgame level.
So, in short, is 80,000 Dilithium 'outrageous' for a ship you're only using for like 4 days? Yes. But it's not Cryptic's fault people want instant gratification, and can't wait a few days. The OP should himself have have realized that spending 80,000 Dilithium on a ship that's only with you for several days is an 'outrageous' *purchase* -- not an outrageous offer. Big difference.
This whole thread-start is clearly a case of misattribution of personal responsibility.
Why is it that almost every thread in this forum has everyone filled with TRIBBLE and Vinegar. Yes it sucked that you didn't read the patch notes and could get the free ship that was better than the DD.
The fact is there are dozens of people who missed the ability to get that ship due to just about to out level it or not reading the posts etc etc.
If you want the ship that bad pay for it, or buy the C-store version. If you don't like you said in a few days you will have out leveled it and get the new ship and continue on your journey.
It seem's your making a very big deal over a small matter. Move on, take a deep breath and realize its a game.
Why is it that almost every thread in this forum has everyone filled with TRIBBLE and Vinegar. Yes it sucked that you didn't read the patch notes and could get the free ship that was better than the DD.
The fact is there are dozens of people who missed the ability to get that ship due to just about to out level it or not reading the posts etc etc.
If you want the ship that bad pay for it, or buy the C-store version. If you don't like you said in a few days you will have out leveled it and get the new ship and continue on your journey.
It seem's your making a very big deal over a small matter. Move on, take a deep breath and realize its a game.
Geez people...
But....but...but I don't wanna stop flying my space ship to work! STO is real man-the tribbles, dance parties, touring the universe-I was there man; it was real!!!
C-Store ships have been Zen or Dilithium for ages,... it was never EC as far as I know,...
As for the rest, 80k isn't that much and is inline with all the other pricings ranging from 80 to 120k,.... In fact I don't think they sell a ship that's NOT a shuttle or fighter, for less,...
I guess you were not here during the pre-DIL or pre-Zen years....Your information is wrong...there was a time...long ago in which most ships you could buy on ESD for mere EC or "free" as you level up:D
Since F2P went live its been more like a money grabbing orgy from DEVs rather than to keep players happy....
"Make players grind until their eyes bleed or make them pay through the urethra. We don't care how you milk them dry, just make sure that milking them dry until their nipples petrify and fall off is your only goal. Don't deviate from this goal unless you'd rather be on the bread line." - Prime Directive from PWE
I completely agree that the Dilithium prices on the ships are posalutely-absativly ridiculous.
But it's also very apparent that Cryptic/PWE doesn't give a damn about our opinions on this matter and chooses to ignore anybody complaining about it.
I do hope you feel better now that you've gotten that out of yer system though.
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If you are (say) level 32 when the new ship comes out, and you've already bought your T4 ship, your only option is to buy with dilithium.
If you're (say) 29 when the new ship comes out, no problem.
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-K
None of which means anything.
Cryptic will not and should not release ships based on when someone may or may not be able to claim them, and they are not and should going to give a rotating group of people a discount, just because you happened to get to level and make a purchasing decision 24 hours before they rolled out something new,...
They released a new ship, you weren't able to claim it because you didn't check notes and got to level 24 hours before the release. Tough. You wont spend enough time at the level of that ship to matter. Either pay the money for the ship if you want it that bad, or wait until 50 and buy the Retrofit version. The Retrofit is a better ship anyway.
How self entitled are you people going to act, damn!
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I guess you were not here during the pre-DIL or pre-Zen years....Your information is wrong...there was a time...long ago in which most ships you could buy on ESD for mere EC or "free" as you level up:D
Since F2P went live its been more like a money grabbing orgy from DEVs rather than to keep players happy....
"Make players grind until their eyes bleed or make them pay through the urethra. We don't care how you milk them dry, just make sure that milking them dry until their nipples petrify and fall off is your only goal. Don't deviate from this goal unless you'd rather be on the bread line." - Prime Directive from PWE
"Ohh my gosh its full of EXPLOITs...shut it down"
Sarcasm aside, I'm going to get philosophical. The devs aren't the only ones to blame. We live in a society that is governed by laws and we must either live by these laws or seek to change them through legal means. Currently, U.S. Law allows the sort of greedy practices we see in this game and many other MMO's. The same trend even occurred in the airline industry with the execs turning every possible service into a micro transaction (most airlines charge you per bag of checked in luggage). This is precisely what happens when economies aren't properly regulated and when the citizenry gets lazy. People will try to generate wealth out of anything regardless of the moral implications and social woes that follow. However, the criticisms must go both ways. We, too, are responsible for the current state of affairs-in so much as we elect our leaders and they pass legislation and if we dislike them, we elect another politician. Yes, that's right. In part, our laziness as citizens resulted in the destruction of the entire U.S. economy (because we allowed the legalization of derivative schemes). Likewise, we've allowed (U.S. Congress) gambling schemes like lock boxes to negatively impact the entire mmo video game industry. Now, gaming companies like PWE are forced to use chance boxes because otherwise they will disappoint investors with their lower than expected returns. Every gaming company that works with MMO's must either adapt to this new market or risk losing profitability. So as you can see, it's not as simple as blaming the devs.
They don't. It's just an excuse people use to blame Cryptic when they can't accept responsibility for their own choices and have "Buyers Remorse" after using the free token to buy a different ship.
How can you have buyer's remorse when what you want wasn't an option at the time of purchase?
I hate to be the Devils Advocate....but:
As the prices were stated a few posts back, the T5, 30,000 Dil, really isn't that much.
For arguments sake, lets just say the current Dil to Zen ration is 120 (Zen to Dil depending on how you wish to look at it) 30k Dil is only 250 Zen.
Thats less than 5 dollars worth of Zen ($5=500 Zen) so about $2.50. So pretty cheap.
Now, from my personal experience, buying any ship with Zen or Dil before level 50, is almost a waste, unless there's a console involved.
The reason I say this is because you can go from level 1 to level 50 in pretty much two to three days of playing, especially if you end up doing Mirror Invasion.
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Hence I said "far as memory goes back." And no, my memory doesn't go back to the beginnings of this game. Which is precisely the point: starting a thread, complaining ships aren't for sale for EC is a certified way of saying he either hasn't played the game in years or is indeed, erm, certifiable. :P
I do agree the pricing for all the token ships is rather high for what you get, 80k for a T4 ship doesnt make much sense since you will outgrow it quickly enough. 200k for a T5 ship makes about as much sense considering there are mirror ships that can be purchased far cheaper.
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5,000 Dilithium tier 1
7,500 Dilithium tier 2
10,000 Dilithium tier 3
15,000 Dilithium tier 4
30,000 Dilithium tier 5
That would be more reasonable and you might actually have some people buy them at least more then currently.
Don't some Shuttles cost Energy Credits?
if you want the variant with the quad cannons that's another choice. so your not forced to spend anything when you hit level 30.
personally I actually liked the fact a player was forced in to a d'deridex. it actually taught you about different ships and classes. some people while levelling would find they was either cruiser person or not. it's a learning curve and it was a short one at that. ok people might not have liked that going from the fast pace of an escort to the stupidly slow turn rate on a d'deridex. but wouldn't people hate it more if they bought the t5 c-store/fleet store cruisers and found out the hard way they didn't like them.
Because you get a free token at each rank (up through RA) that gives you a free ship.
T1 ship, free.
T2 ship, free.
T3 ship, free.
T4 ship, free.
T5 (RA) ship, free.
The 80k Dil only comes into play if you want to have more than one ship from that tier.
A T4 Refit is 1500 Zen. @126 Dil = 1 Zen, that's 189,000 Dil for a T4 Refit if somebody wanted that ship in addition to the free ship. 109k Dil more than a non-Refit T4 ship.
How is somebody going to grind 189k Dill for a second ship at T4?
The same way they would for the 80k Dil if they wanted another ship in addition to the free ship...
In the time one could spend arguing about the price of getting additional ships at T1-T4, they could hit T5... I don't get the issue.
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this.
a perfectly viable ship at that.
you are going to out-level all the non VA ships relatively quickly anyway...not really worth buying them now when they will just be parked in a couple levels anyway as you lvl.
My current STO strategy for flying the ships I want:
the last few characters I have made, I power lvl'd to VA (very easy and very quick nowadays),,,"Then" I bought the ship I liked for that character, and 'then' began running episode missions, and other game content at VA in the new shiny ship. Seems to work better in the new game structure IMO.
you can argue "but, but I want a T3 or T4 ship !!...I can't fly that at VA !!!" that is only partly true....you can indeed fly them at VA....you'll just be a few consoles short of a higher tier ship.....but they are still perfectly viable in all standard content ( flying Kirks T1 connie is actually very fun and challenging when rerunning episodes at vice admiral IMO.... )
so yeah...
tl:dr don't buy ships while leveling, you'll outgrow them too fast, use the free ones they issue you.
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Good to know. I wasn't here then so I was unaware,... I passed on the Negh'var and bought a Raptor instead, because of the Turn rate/Inertia rating,... I've never regretted buying my Qin Raptor, it's been an awesome little ship for me.
As for the rest of the OP's case, it seems to be a case of buyers remorse. He didn't check up on the new stuff notes and bought a ship with his free token, right before they introduced a new, better ship for that rank.
If he had waited a day or more or read up on what was coming and waited, he'd have his Tactical Warbird, for free, and none of this would be an issue.
Simple, he bought, right before an update,... whether it's games, computers or cars,... it happens. New models come out on sometimes unpredictable schedules, and sometimes people end up with buyers remorse because the new model is intro'd right after them buying.
It's really a non-issue since all players NOW reaching 30, would have access to that ship with their free token,... Besides, he nor anyone else will spend enough time at 30 to be all that concerned about it. He'll be at 50 in a couple days/weeks, and need a better ship anyway,...
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If you are (say) level 32 when the new ship comes out, and you've already bought your T4 ship, your only option is to buy with dilithium.
If you're (say) 29 when the new ship comes out, no problem.
I too think the dilithium prices for the 'rank up' ships are way too high - and this is likely hurting Cryptic's profit margins too.
Imagine if you usually fly a Science ship, but had the option to try out a Tactical Escort for a cheap price. If you enjoy it, you might then be tempted to drop zen on the Retrofit version of that ship.
-K
Not really the time or place for that.
They used to be purchased with ECs, but that was such a long time ago. I don't mind the dilithium cost since you get a free one anyway. I have no interest in switching between ships at low levels anyway.
Don't forget about doffs!
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
Yes the cost of leveling ships is way too high considering you only get a few hours of play time out of them before you level again. It's very easy to go from 1 -> 50 in a few days. Most ships come with a universal console though and I guess that's how they are justifying their cost, however most of these consoles are available on the exchange thanks to lock boxes.
OP isnt complaining that it doesnt cost EC. How many times do people have to spell it out for you?
LvL 30 Starship - 80,000 Dil =/= LvL 30 Player - Can Afford.
The OP is complaining that the price is outrageous. And this is evidence against the 'Everything you want in game you can get it without money' argument. Sure you can get this ship after grinding youre way up to LvL 50 but why would you?
You buy the ship, you have that console for everybody of that faction that you currently have or will ever have.
You buy the console off the Exchange or get it out of a Lockbox, you've got it for that toon.
Why would you need multiple ships for the length of time you're going to be at that Tier?
Precisely. However most consoles are cheap enough to justify buying them with EC's off the exchange. The exception would be faction limitations like for KDF you have to buy Plasmonic Leech or Feds would have to purchase Antimatter Spread using Zen. Most universal consoles are a waste anyway and STO is no longer an alt-friendly game.
Precisely. Took me about 2 weeks to level up to lv. 50; and many there be who did it much faster, even. So, a Tier 4 ship is going to be with you for what, 3-4 days maybe? Tops.
As for too pricey. that's debatable. 80,000 is a little under half the price of a Tier 5 ship (and a good 100,000 skillpoints between Tier 4 and Tier 5). So it's not 'outrageously' priced in that sense at all.
The true mistake, really, is buying ships along the way to lv. 50, period. I did too, btw. But, in hindsight, that was clearly a mistake om my end; and I'm not afraid to admit it. In fact, to anyone who asks, I usually tell them to just keep their money in their pockets, and just wait a few days until they reached endgame level.
So, in short, is 80,000 Dilithium 'outrageous' for a ship you're only using for like 4 days? Yes. But it's not Cryptic's fault people want instant gratification, and can't wait a few days. The OP should himself have have realized that spending 80,000 Dilithium on a ship that's only with you for several days is an 'outrageous' *purchase* -- not an outrageous offer. Big difference.
This whole thread-start is clearly a case of misattribution of personal responsibility.
The fact is there are dozens of people who missed the ability to get that ship due to just about to out level it or not reading the posts etc etc.
If you want the ship that bad pay for it, or buy the C-store version. If you don't like you said in a few days you will have out leveled it and get the new ship and continue on your journey.
It seem's your making a very big deal over a small matter. Move on, take a deep breath and realize its a game.
Geez people...
But....but...but I don't wanna stop flying my space ship to work! STO is real man-the tribbles, dance parties, touring the universe-I was there man; it was real!!!
I guess you were not here during the pre-DIL or pre-Zen years....Your information is wrong...there was a time...long ago in which most ships you could buy on ESD for mere EC or "free" as you level up:D
Since F2P went live its been more like a money grabbing orgy from DEVs rather than to keep players happy....
"Make players grind until their eyes bleed or make them pay through the urethra. We don't care how you milk them dry, just make sure that milking them dry until their nipples petrify and fall off is your only goal. Don't deviate from this goal unless you'd rather be on the bread line." - Prime Directive from PWE
"Ohh my gosh its full of EXPLOITs...shut it down"
But it's also very apparent that Cryptic/PWE doesn't give a damn about our opinions on this matter and chooses to ignore anybody complaining about it.
I do hope you feel better now that you've gotten that out of yer system though.
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
None of which means anything.
Cryptic will not and should not release ships based on when someone may or may not be able to claim them, and they are not and should going to give a rotating group of people a discount, just because you happened to get to level and make a purchasing decision 24 hours before they rolled out something new,...
They released a new ship, you weren't able to claim it because you didn't check notes and got to level 24 hours before the release. Tough. You wont spend enough time at the level of that ship to matter. Either pay the money for the ship if you want it that bad, or wait until 50 and buy the Retrofit version. The Retrofit is a better ship anyway.
How self entitled are you people going to act, damn!
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
It is if you chose the wrong ship on accident and the ship you chose by mistake is a type you dislike.
Sarcasm aside, I'm going to get philosophical. The devs aren't the only ones to blame. We live in a society that is governed by laws and we must either live by these laws or seek to change them through legal means. Currently, U.S. Law allows the sort of greedy practices we see in this game and many other MMO's. The same trend even occurred in the airline industry with the execs turning every possible service into a micro transaction (most airlines charge you per bag of checked in luggage). This is precisely what happens when economies aren't properly regulated and when the citizenry gets lazy. People will try to generate wealth out of anything regardless of the moral implications and social woes that follow. However, the criticisms must go both ways. We, too, are responsible for the current state of affairs-in so much as we elect our leaders and they pass legislation and if we dislike them, we elect another politician. Yes, that's right. In part, our laziness as citizens resulted in the destruction of the entire U.S. economy (because we allowed the legalization of derivative schemes). Likewise, we've allowed (U.S. Congress) gambling schemes like lock boxes to negatively impact the entire mmo video game industry. Now, gaming companies like PWE are forced to use chance boxes because otherwise they will disappoint investors with their lower than expected returns. Every gaming company that works with MMO's must either adapt to this new market or risk losing profitability. So as you can see, it's not as simple as blaming the devs.
How can you have buyer's remorse when what you want wasn't an option at the time of purchase?
As the prices were stated a few posts back, the T5, 30,000 Dil, really isn't that much.
For arguments sake, lets just say the current Dil to Zen ration is 120 (Zen to Dil depending on how you wish to look at it) 30k Dil is only 250 Zen.
Thats less than 5 dollars worth of Zen ($5=500 Zen) so about $2.50. So pretty cheap.
Now, from my personal experience, buying any ship with Zen or Dil before level 50, is almost a waste, unless there's a console involved.
The reason I say this is because you can go from level 1 to level 50 in pretty much two to three days of playing, especially if you end up doing Mirror Invasion.
I'd show you a picture, but this site has rules against posting pornographic images.