Good to see changes are on their way, but whoever was involved with the design and release of that console should get a brain transplant and be deported to a Siberian gulag. Nobody that stupid should have been allowed to release something that stupid in the first place.
well i am quite glad this measure was taken. no mater the situation, this console just was to overpowering. im glad this issue was addressed instead of awkwardly ignored untill we stopped complaining about it. we were never actually going to stop complaining about this one
in effect, it doesn't seem like it really effects PVE ether, asside from it dealing more damage. npcs move so slow they still wont be able to escape it i imagine. im sure there are already a dozen i hate pvper posts about this already. if the notes never got posted, they wouldn't have noticed a difference.
Well from what I can see the important parts still work in pve, it still slows, which means it synergizes will with grav well still, since it keeps targets near the center of the grav well, your not getting shot, they cant shoot out, so works well with the tholian web device still, and as a bonus the collapse does more damage.
So really pve shouldn't see a change outside of, more damage.
How are we going to be compensated for the removal of the cloaks on the elachi ships? The only reason I bought those ships was because of the cloaks. You did not say you were going to change the ships till after you started selling them on the lobi store. I feel this is very unfair I bought 60 keys and opened boxes to get the ship because of that cloak and I spent over 80 mill ec to buy the other one on the exchange. Now I have 2 ships that won't have cloaks and I would not have bought them had I had that knowledge prior to purchase. This seems like a bait and switch tactic and I am not pleased in the least. I am a gold member and have spent alot of money on this game. This is the first time I have felt ripped off by the game and am wondering why I should give you anymore money when this is how you will treat people. I am very upset about this and find it very unfair to have bought a ship with a cloak to find out you plan to remove it after you sold it with a cloak. I want to know how we will be compensated for this or I would like my keys and ec that I spent on it back or to keep the cloaks because that is why I bought the ships. Please let me know how you plan to fix this problem.
How are we going to be compensated for the removal of the cloaks on the elachi ships? The only reason I bought those ships was because of the cloaks. You did not say you were going to change the ships till after you started selling them on the lobi store. I feel this is very unfair I bought 60 keys and opened boxes to get the ship because of that cloak and I spent over 80 mill ec to buy the other one on the exchange. Now I have 2 ships that won't have cloaks and I would not have bought them had I had that knowledge prior to purchase.
Oh hello, it's you again.
I actually think you're lying, personally. Why would you buy a ship because of the cloak? How did you even know it had a cloak?
The cloaking device wasn't included in ANY dev blogs, in-game descriptions or dev posts at all. Nobody knew it had a cloaking device until someone started flying one and noticed it, they posted on the forums, and the developers quickly said "Oh ****" and that it would be removed ASAP.
The Elachi have NEVER had cloaking devices, I really can't understand your mindset. Sounds to me like you just want something for free and you're hoping you can get it.
the blog didn't mention a cloak, the box doesn't mention a cloak, in fact the only way anyone knew it had one someone checked their powers and listed it. If you bought it because a player said it had one, which at the time it did, and didn't read the blog, or the ship box to be sure it wasn't some sort of bug, that's sort of your fault.
the blog didn't mention a cloak, the box doesn't mention a cloak, in fact the only way anyone knew it had one someone checked their powers and listed it. If you bought it because a player said it had one, which at the time it did, and didn't read the blog, or the ship box to be sure it wasn't some sort of bug, that's sort of your fault.
Either the people in QA aren't doing their job properly, Cryptic are not listening to QA, or they know full well it is broken, so release it to make as much money in the short space of time before a planned nerf.
Either way someone at Cryptic is incompetent...
I don't usually belittle people's work, as mistakes happen, but I have to agree with you here. The ship going out with a Cloak and the Console being that over powered makes me wonder if anyone even fly these ships to test them out or if they just assume the math is right and stick them in a box.
I have to wonder how many of the bug issues were currently experiencing throughout the game are simply there because no one's bothering to check anything before they launch it. It's incredibly sloppy work - the type that would get people fired if they had worked for my company. But who knows. Maybe that's why Cryptic has so many job openings right now.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
the blog didn't mention a cloak, the box doesn't mention a cloak, in fact the only way anyone knew it had one someone checked their powers and listed it. If you bought it because a player said it had one, which at the time it did, and didn't read the blog, or the ship box to be sure it wasn't some sort of bug, that's sort of your fault.
I know i was shocked when the battleship had a cloak button.. i thought to myself .. why does this ship cloak? lmao
They can remove it, I don't want it!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
just great. another console nerfed to hell because of PVP.
The Console was broken, PvE or PvP. You shouldn't be able to grab a ship and pew-pew it down without it being able to escape or do anything in return. It doesn't matter if we're talking about a Tac Cube in a ESTF or in PvP against another player.
Any time you see an "I win" ability it's just common sense to know it's a mistake.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
you can say what you want but there are bugs that have been around since beta and some that have been around since F2P.
Every time they release an update they break something.
I am a gold member and my auto refine dilithium on my main toon is broken has been broken for a long time and all I get is auto response to resubmit the ticket.
There are other bugs but this is not the place to post about them because we all know what's broken.
Just thought I would mention, the autorefine does not always work when you zone, however it will refine to the cap if you logout with ore and refine capacity left when the clock clicks over and resets the daily refine limit.
Since you are gold it will also refine up to a couple of days worth of ore when you log in for the first time in a couple of days. Watch for the message on log in if you log out with ore an refine capacity and the refine reset occurs.
just great. another console nerfed to hell because of PVP.
The console hasn't been nerfed, it's actually buffed: It does more damage and still disables all of the enemy powers that matter in PvE, namely, their ability to shoot you or anyone else. It's just no longer wildly OP on PvP as it no longer removes the other player's ability to actually play the game.
So if you're using it in PvE, it actually works BETTER than before.
just great. another console nerfed to hell because of PVP.
Yes my friend. Elite PvP heroes got killed in their OP ships, started to cry and the console was nerfed to TRIBBLE instaid of actually fixing it not to afect captains powers, or even toned it down a bit.
And dont belive all the propaganda about the console been buffed, its really embarrassing to see how they praise this change when even common sense tells u this was made useless.
A +25% out of TRIBBLE damage result in a TRIBBLE damage aswell. Not to mention replacing, if u look at boff skill availability, a Lt.Com skill with a mere Ensign skill wich is easy to counter and nobody cared/wanted anyway.
Even if it was OP its shouldnt been rendered useless. There were soo many suggestions ppl gave but no feedback was taken into consideration.
Yes my friend. Elite PvP heroes got killed in their OP ships, started to cry and the console was nerfed to TRIBBLE instaid of actually fixing it not to afect captains powers, or even toned it down a bit.
And dont belive all the propaganda about the console been buffed, its really embarrassing to see how they praise this change when even common sense tells u this was made useless.
A +25% out of TRIBBLE damage result in a TRIBBLE damage aswell. Not to mention replacing, if u look at boff skill availability, a Lt.Com skill with a mere Ensign skill wich is easy to counter and nobody cared/wanted anyway.
Even if it was OP its shouldnt been rendered useless. There were soo many suggestions ppl gave but no feedback was taken into consideration.
Put him up against the wall. **roflstomp** ensues.
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Well from what I can see the important parts still work in pve, it still slows, which means it synergizes will with grav well still, since it keeps targets near the center of the grav well, your not getting shot, they cant shoot out, so works well with the tholian web device still, and as a bonus the collapse does more damage.
So really pve shouldn't see a change outside of, more damage.
Oh hello, it's you again.
I actually think you're lying, personally. Why would you buy a ship because of the cloak? How did you even know it had a cloak?
The cloaking device wasn't included in ANY dev blogs, in-game descriptions or dev posts at all. Nobody knew it had a cloaking device until someone started flying one and noticed it, they posted on the forums, and the developers quickly said "Oh ****" and that it would be removed ASAP.
The Elachi have NEVER had cloaking devices, I really can't understand your mindset. Sounds to me like you just want something for free and you're hoping you can get it.
Kirk's Protege.
Dingdingdingdingdingdingding.
Ladies and gentleman, we have a winner.
Kirk's Protege.
I have to wonder how many of the bug issues were currently experiencing throughout the game are simply there because no one's bothering to check anything before they launch it. It's incredibly sloppy work - the type that would get people fired if they had worked for my company. But who knows. Maybe that's why Cryptic has so many job openings right now.
I know i was shocked when the battleship had a cloak button.. i thought to myself .. why does this ship cloak? lmao
They can remove it, I don't want it!
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
Any time you see an "I win" ability it's just common sense to know it's a mistake.
Just thought I would mention, the autorefine does not always work when you zone, however it will refine to the cap if you logout with ore and refine capacity left when the clock clicks over and resets the daily refine limit.
Since you are gold it will also refine up to a couple of days worth of ore when you log in for the first time in a couple of days. Watch for the message on log in if you log out with ore an refine capacity and the refine reset occurs.
L2p......you are dismissed
So if you're using it in PvE, it actually works BETTER than before.
That's right!
Anyone who is still confused, or sad, or has indigestion should read the thread in my sig on this particular issue.
Yes my friend. Elite PvP heroes got killed in their OP ships, started to cry and the console was nerfed to TRIBBLE instaid of actually fixing it not to afect captains powers, or even toned it down a bit.
And dont belive all the propaganda about the console been buffed, its really embarrassing to see how they praise this change when even common sense tells u this was made useless.
A +25% out of TRIBBLE damage result in a TRIBBLE damage aswell. Not to mention replacing, if u look at boff skill availability, a Lt.Com skill with a mere Ensign skill wich is easy to counter and nobody cared/wanted anyway.
Even if it was OP its shouldnt been rendered useless. There were soo many suggestions ppl gave but no feedback was taken into consideration.
I indeed wonder if that proc works on anything but tholians. Wouldnt surprise me if it didnt.
PVE ftw!!!
For all the PvPer bashing, not every PvPer cries instantly about the newest OP toys.
Put him up against the wall. **roflstomp** ensues.
This is a wonder that they listen to feedback lawl.