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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    I have a few clipping issue's based on my mains new outfit. The toon this effects is
    Avitus@sqwishedgrape , Human ,male, Federation

    Area affected is the around the shoulders and upper chest/back Areas effected have been highlighted by the red boxes for ease of identification.

    Costume options used that caused the issues are
    Upper : Vaadwaur 03
    Shoulder Pad left : Kobali Soldier
    Shoulder Pad right : Kobali Soldier Striped
    Collar : Kit - Security 1
    Chest gear : Kit - Sci Researcher 2

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  • skymagus00skymagus00 Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    I just read the patch notes and it looks like the Iconian costume issues have been fixed. Nice going and thanks! :)
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    I have a question: where do those Leather Armbands come from? I tought they came with the Krenim Uniform but my KDF Orion has the Uniform but not the Armbands.


    And will ther be more headgears for the Iconian vest? Like L'Miren and M'Tara's gear?
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    Looks like the clipping problem with the miners short sleeve top on females has come back again.
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  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    A few updates:
    We have recently looked into the issues regarding the Iconian Vest and other related parts (missing chests, clipping, etc) - resolutions to these have been made and are going to the servers soon.
    Miner Vest issues also have been looked at, and fixes for those will also go out soon.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
    A few updates:
    We have recently looked into the issues regarding the Iconian Vest and other related parts (missing chests, clipping, etc) - resolutions to these have been made and are going to the servers soon.
    Miner Vest issues also have been looked at, and fixes for those will also go out soon.

    Any hairstyles included in that :#?​​
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  • tasshenatasshena Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    callevista wrote: »
    A few updates:
    We have recently looked into the issues regarding the Iconian Vest and other related parts (missing chests, clipping, etc) - resolutions to these have been made and are going to the servers soon.
    Miner Vest issues also have been looked at, and fixes for those will also go out soon.

    No answer on whether the Iconian outfit is a limited time item?

    Also, noted elsewhere, Caitians are unable to use the Iconian outfit.

    And mine (M'iaria@AuroraKet) can't rename outfits because it ALWAYS says 'invalid costume parts', when none of them are invalid.​​
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,866 Community Moderator
    ^Yes, it's really a shame to put all that work into great costumes, for them to be limited time only obtainable. :/
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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?
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  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    ...is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    Emphasis mine. I'd say "in addition to" instead, since being its own category allows mix-matching with the Iconian Reputation Armor pieces, and removing that category would remove that feature as well.

    Unless, of course, such pieces were to be made available in the Uniform category (namely: the Iconian Armor bracers and boots). It would set a good precedent too, hopefully allowing some pieces of any reputation armors to be used in the Uniform category. I think a lot of folks want that.​​
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    tk79 wrote: »
    ...is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    Emphasis mine. I'd say "in addition to" instead, since being its own category allows mix-matching with the Iconian Reputation Armor pieces, and removing that category would remove that feature as well.

    Unless, of course, such pieces were to be made available in the Uniform category (namely: the Iconian Armor bracers and boots). It would set a good precedent too, hopefully allowing some pieces of any reputation armors to be used in the Uniform category. I think a lot of folks want that.

    I think any of the reputation pieces should be uniform category anyway.​​
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  • callevistacallevista Member Posts: 237 Cryptic Developer
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.
  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
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    As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    Now that is a pity, I think it would like nice when mixed in with some of the Voth costume options, and maybe a few others.​​
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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    I don't suppose I might ask why they don't want that?
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.
    I don't suppose I might ask why they don't want that?
    Yeah... see, this is exactly my beef with these things. Rather than listening to your playerbase, you just say 'that is not what the designers want'. If this was some key gameplay, advantage giving thing, I'd not say a 'peep'. But, we're talking about artistic, aesthetic assets... and people have repeatedly attempted to get you guys to loosen up on all the... restrictions. I'm sorry, but... I just.. don't have much to say on that anymore - as it is continuously begging a question, as to who do you make the artistic assets for, if not the playerbase, to use them, and appreciate them, in way we'd want to? Why not let us...

    *grumble grumble grumble*

    No, really, hard to not enter the ramble mode. It makes zero sense to keep restricting aesthetic/artistic assets to your playerbase.

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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it.

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward.


    That's excellent news! Thank you for getting back to us on that. It really is some nice work put into that uniform so I'm glad I'll be able to pick it up on all current and future characters without having to burn myself out over the next week and a half. :grin:
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,866 Community Moderator
    I have less of an issue with the Iconian Vest costume being restricted to its own category, than it being restricted to Captains only. :/ I want my BOFFs to be able to wear it, too!
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    I have less of an issue with the Iconian Vest costume being restricted to its own category, than it being restricted to Captains only. :/ I want my BOFFs to be able to wear it, too!


    Agreed. I'm hoping that's a bug as we do get access to most of the other costume drop down options on BOFFs these days.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,866 Community Moderator
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    @callevista Would it be possible for the Kobali Uniform to be made available again as a permanent reward? The problem with it being a one time only, is that the Kobali BOFF reward from that episode is still available, but we cannot alter its default uniform look without losing its Kobali uniform if you hadn't been previously awarded the uniform during the anniversary event.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it.

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    @callevista Would it be possible for the Kobali Uniform to be made available again as a permanent reward? The problem with it being a one time only, is that the Kobali BOFF reward from that episode is still available, but we cannot alter its default uniform look without losing its Kobali uniform if you hadn't been previously awarded the uniform during the anniversary event.

    I'd agree with that, I need it on my Delta Recruits.​​
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it.

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    @callevista Would it be possible for the Kobali Uniform to be made available again as a permanent reward? The problem with it being a one time only, is that the Kobali BOFF reward from that episode is still available, but we cannot alter its default uniform look without losing its Kobali uniform if you hadn't been previously awarded the uniform during the anniversary event.


    I third that request! Another great outfit, which obviously had a lot of time put into it. It'd be great to have it back in as a permanent reward for the end of the Kobali/Vaadwaur missions.
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    The Iconian vest is awesome. The Kobali uniform pieces are even better. I agree that they should both be permanent rewards. Perhaps a debugged/updated Tal'Shiar Uniform as well? B)
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  • rooster707rooster707 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    callevista wrote: »
    @callevista Thank you for the fixes to the Iconian Vest outfit. Can you please confirm for us whether this outfit is a limited time reward or not? There doesn't seem to be information one way or the other and I don't want a repeat of the Kobali uniform which I also loved but didn't get on all of my characters because they didn't tell us it was a limited time reward until the day they removed it. ​​

    @callevista I would also like to know this, and if I might also ask, is it possible the Iconian Vest pieces could be added to the standard uniform category instead of being it's own thing/mixed with Off-Duty?

    I've inquired about the Iconian Vest availability. I've been told it is NOT a limited time reward. As for adding the Iconian Vest to the Uniform costume slot - that is not something the designers want.

    @callevista Would it be possible for the Kobali Uniform to be made available again as a permanent reward? The problem with it being a one time only, is that the Kobali BOFF reward from that episode is still available, but we cannot alter its default uniform look without losing its Kobali uniform if you hadn't been previously awarded the uniform during the anniversary event.

    I... fifth?... this. I had no idea it was a limited time only thing, so only one of my characters has it.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    @callevista, I'm afraid the fix in the latest Holodeck patch to the Reman females' arms only affected Iconian Vest 1, and none of the other three options, on my Reman toon. If you need to clone her and check for yourself, the affected toon is Shalrak@gulberat. Thank you!

    Also, my Caitian female still lacks the Iconian outfit category altogether and only has certain pieces, which are found in the Off-Duty section. The affected toon is Rraeit@gulberat.

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  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Having some clipping issues on my Romulan Female Ariennye@Alexraptorius with the Civilian Sash and the Veteran Coat on the chest and by the collar.
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  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    I am a bit confused about a few Uniforms/costumes: T'Pol, Seven of Nine, Counselor Troi, TOS Mirror and Mercenary


    Some of my Fed (and KDF) Toons have the Borg Hands (from Sevens costume) but not the Borg Implants (that goes for my Orions and embassy Romulans)

    Some of my KDF toons have access to Counselor Trois Boots but not the rest of the uniform, same for the mercenary Uniform. the belts are available but the rest is not.

    Also some of my KFD toons can use the Mirror universe Belt/sash but not the MU uniform. Why are some parts of those Uniforms available cross-faction but not the Rest? and why are some parts (like the Borg implants) available for some Races and not for others (Like Sevens Borg implants)

    I think since none of those are pure Starfleet /KFD/Romulan uniforms all of them (mirror, T'Pol, Seven, Mercenary) should be available for all FActions and Races


    Also: looks like one of the iconian Belts can be used with the Orion Bikini. unfortunately that Belt is sooo large that it looks weird and not good in combination with the Bikini so i am still hoping that soon we will be able to use the Intel Belt, Formal Belt, MU Sash and other Belts in combination with the Orion bikini again.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    My Female Ferasan also still misses the 'Iconian vest' category. Only some pieces are available in the 'off-duty' category.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    My Female Ferasan also still misses the 'Iconian vest' category. Only some pieces are available in the 'off-duty' category.

    Aha...maybe it's ALL female felines, since my Caitian has the same issue.

    @callevista, have you been able to replicate the ongoing Iconian vest issues I've cited in this thread? Please let me know if you need any further information or help to do so. :)

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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    toiva wrote: »
    My Female Ferasan also still misses the 'Iconian vest' category. Only some pieces are available in the 'off-duty' category.

    Aha...maybe it's ALL female felines, since my Caitian has the same issue.

    @callevista, have you been able to replicate the ongoing Iconian vest issues I've cited in this thread? Please let me know if you need any further information or help to do so. :)

    Seems like this may get fixed with Season 11 based on this post from Tribble: http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12732440/#Comment_12732440
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