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Ridiculously thin calves with tight pants on female toons

angarus1angarus1 Member Posts: 684 Arc User
edited October 2013 in The Art of Star Trek Online
Err... Why do all female toons have very thin calves now with tight pants?

They look very unhealthy and like they could snap easily.

Could we please get a reversion?
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  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Cryptic... make them thicker again... please!

    why did you even change them? we never complained they where too fat?!

    >_<


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  • zachverantzachverant Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    yes the legs are noticeably thinner...and the 7of9 tall boots are thicker at the top...If you put the 7of9 pants and the 7of9 tall boots together it looks very weird.

    It makes us all look like runway models, very funky.

    I hope this is just a bug.
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  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    zachverant wrote: »
    yes the legs are noticeably thinner...and the 7of9 tall boots are thicker at the top...If you put the 7of9 pants and the 7of9 tall boots together it looks very weird.

    It makes us all look like runway models, very funky.

    I hope this is just a bug.

    Cryptic! don't you EVEN DARE! match the boots to the pants!

    match the pants BACK! to the Boots... The way they where.. before you ruined them.


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  • doggydudedoggydude Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I was actually quite afraid when I saw how thin those ankles where.

    I took a look back at screenshots from the past, they did seem thicker, but maybe it was the lighting. Hopefully they are adustable in the tailor.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It's a very noticeable and unwelcome change.
  • javaman1969javaman1969 Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Oh, great. I haven't had any new officers since the change, so I don't know how bad it is. It looks like my next female officer will be getting body shape revisions. Just think of it as time at the gym. Speaking of time at the gym, the athletic looks should really be standard for any character who works in space for a living.
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Agree, and is even worst with some skirts.. you can see the diference beatuine the normal legs TOS skirts with the others.
    I loss hopes for a fix long time ago.
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  • linyivelinyive Member Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    angarus1 wrote: »
    Err... Why do all female toons have very thin calves now with tight pants?

    They look very unhealthy and like they could snap easily.

    Could we please get a reversion?
    You can also see the avatar's geometry as well. Instead of my legs looking round, they are now looking block shaped.
  • oracion666oracion666 Member Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Maybe the Cryptic art team like stick legs?
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  • daharmasterklagdaharmasterklag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Agree, and is even worst with some skirts.. you can see the diference beatuine the normal legs TOS skirts with the others.
    I loss hopes for a fix long time ago.


    Yep they look bad in pants but worse in skirts! They look just awful now, was far better before! :mad:
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You can see in this screenshot how the leg bulk changes when wearing tight pants. Notice that the boots don't change in size at all, leaving a large rim at the top of the boot.
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So it's not just my imagination then? I could have sworn that legs overall are way thinner ever since LoR went live. All new boffs I've edited have leg bulk set to max and I still at times thought they are way too thin than they were before.
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    edited June 2013
    Yeah, I'vre been noticing that too, as well as how much thinner the knees have gotten.
  • javaman1969javaman1969 Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    You can see in this screenshot how the leg bulk changes when wearing tight pants. Notice that the boots don't change in size at all, leaving a large rim at the top of the boot.

    Both have too small knees
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  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited June 2013
    Does some one on the Cryptic art team have a body image disorder? Maybe anorexic? People with eating disorders often suffer from an inability to identify body shapes which are normal or average.
  • zdfx19zdfx19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Sure its like we are looking at a big head and a set of huge TRIBBLE mounted on a stick. I have thought that the basic body proportions for male and female characters were off for a while now. I almost always have to widen the shoulders and get a good V chest to "try to make them look like people."
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    voxinvictus wrote: »
    Does some one on the Cryptic art team have a body image disorder? Maybe anorexic? People with eating disorders often suffer from an inability to identify body shapes which are normal or average.

    NONE of it is real so what is "normal"?
    AND you have to wonder about those who create toons that want cankles.
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I fully agree with the OP.
    I would go even further and say that all Leg settings look way too thin.

    In my Character and BOFFS i tend to use the highest setting (leg Bulk) just to make them NOT look somehow anorexic.
    Have you guys ever tried (for fun) to make a male Charcter look Body Builder Like?
    This is perfectly possible with Upper Body setings but the legs look rediculusly thin, why?
    The best you can get is a somehow average look for the legs but all my BOFFS/Captains (Female or Male) would have have cartoonish proportions if i wouldn't actively make them look at least a bit more natural.

    I think the problem are some of Cryptics designers, they obviously have no sense of proportion.
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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    You can see in this screenshot how the leg bulk changes when wearing tight pants. Notice that the boots don't change in size at all, leaving a large rim at the top of the boot.

    I find the pant-wearing one looking normal, while the bare one looks way too thick compared to the rest of the leg.

    On the other hand, the leg girth options do end before you reach the bodybuilder type.

    Which can be bad for gorn or klingons.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    yreodred wrote: »
    I fully agree with the OP.
    I would go even further and say that all Leg settings look way too thin.

    In my Character and BOFFS i tend to use the highest setting (leg Bulk) just to make them NOT look somehow anorexic.
    Have you guys ever tried (for fun) to make a male Charcter look Body Builder Like?
    This is perfectly possible with Upper Body setings but the legs look rediculusly thin, why?
    The best you can get is a somehow average look for the legs but all my BOFFS/Captains (Female or Male) would have have cartoonish proportions if i wouldn't actively make them look at least a bit more natural.

    I think the problem are some of Cryptics designers, they obviously have no sense of proportion.

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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Future C store item ??
    Can of spinach??

    "im popeye the sailor man , im stronger than desperate dan , I stays strong to the finish cos I eats me spinach I'm popeye the the sailor man"

    So that's why all the orion men are green.... from Spinach.
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  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What I hate are people who run around with the bust slider maxed out, paper thin legs and hips so big it acts like a Romulan's Projected Singularity ability and Gravity Well III all in one package.

    I mean if you're gonna go for Marxia the Orion Slave Girl at least be realistic about it. And I found a name for my Orion so yay :D
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  • zorthoszorthos Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    You can see in this screenshot how the leg bulk changes when wearing tight pants. Notice that the boots don't change in size at all, leaving a large rim at the top of the boot.

    Having viewed the image you posted the ratio between the thigh and calf is more anatomically correct now than they were before, I can't remember seeing anyone in real life that has calves as big as their thighs.

    If anything I'd say the Devs have improved the look of them, rather than them having cartoon proportions as they did before.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Fixing this would give them mony? No.. then they dont care.
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  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Fixing this would give them mony? No.. then they dont care.

    they changed it without getting money! your point is invalid.


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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rachelj88 wrote: »
    they changed it without getting money! your point is invalid.


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    No, they BROKE IT with out getting money.. that is for free in this game.. looks like you are new here.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    zorthos wrote: »
    Having viewed the image you posted the ratio between the thigh and calf is more anatomically correct now than they were before, I can't remember seeing anyone in real life that has calves as big as their thighs.

    If anything I'd say the Devs have improved the look of them, rather than them having cartoon proportions as they did before.

    I don't want to discuss character proportions, but if that's the case, they need to fix the boots so they match again.
  • johnny111971johnny111971 Member Posts: 1,300 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Fixing this would give them mony? No.. then they dont care.

    They aren't the only ones.
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  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The way I see it is that not calves are too thin, but they made boots thicker. There is now a clear edge where the boot ends and the leg starts. It really shows on the shorter boots that the feds have. The klingons always had massive boots which made me wonder what are these, where is it made off, can you walk/run proper wearing these. (These boots aren't made for walking)

    Computer figures don't have clothes in fact. They have a skin which represents their body and their cloths. With the edge on the boot they have tried to represent there is actual material on the leg and feet.

    The pictures of the legs here in this thread show it well. The first one shows a leg with a different skin. The second one shows a leg with a boot on it. However it seems we can only have boots with isolation, only thick boots.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    zorthos wrote: »
    Having viewed the image you posted the ratio between the thigh and calf is more anatomically correct now than they were before, I can't remember seeing anyone in real life that has calves as big as their thighs.

    If anything I'd say the Devs have improved the look of them, rather than them having cartoon proportions as they did before.

    That may be true, but now the boots look stupid. :(
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