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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
    The DS9 uniform still manages to capture the aesthetics of the TNG uniform without seeming unwieldy, so it gets my vote as 'best Romulan uniform'

    Agreed, I wish we had it ingame.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • revanindustriesrevanindustries Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    More Tal Shiar Uniform options??

    Sign me up!!
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    *raises hand*

    I think it looks like tacky Vulcan casualwear. And I think the harness thingy on it looks much less attractive than the ones used in DS9 and TNG.

    I think a lot more thought went into the TNG uniforms than people give them credit for. It seems to be pretty clearly based off of the sort of thing that used to be worn in feudal Japan. The checkers IMO seem to be evocative of the patterns one might see on Medieval padded armor, and the grey color & designs serve to give it a very severe, soviet-ish look to it. Call it funny if you want, but IMO the TNG uniform captured the essence of what the Romulans from that era came to be defined as very well: vainglorious, militant, and fascist.

    That being said, the TNG uniform is bit unwieldy-it's hard to imagine a Romulan crawling into the Romulan-equivalent of a jeffereies tube without it getting caught on everything/catching on fire. It would work perfectly fine as a sort of ceremonial guard uniform/dress uniform IMO.

    The DS9 uniform still manages to capture the aesthetics of the TNG uniform without seeming unwieldy, so it gets my vote as 'best Romulan uniform'. The Nemesis uniform is better than the TOS uniform, but that's about all I can say positively about it...It looks more like a Vulcan uniform to my eyes, not Romulan-far too casual looking.
    artan42 wrote: »
    Agreed, I wish we had it ingame.
    More Tal Shiar Uniform options??

    Sign me up!!

    All in good time. We pust continue to press this issue, in order to gerner attention. For the Empire!
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    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Oh come on. Now you are just bumping.
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Oh come on. Now you are just bumping.

    I was offline for RL issues.

    bump!
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bltrrn wrote: »
    I was offline for RL issues.

    bump!

    Who said anything about RL? I'm referring you your encouraging posts here just to keep it going, rather than letting the discussion continue naturally. :D
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  • odstparker#7820 odstparker Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    That happens all the time with threads like this. I don't like it, but there's not much I can do.

    Just remember that the reason that this thread exists is to ask Cryptic to consider, if they haven't already, releasing the full Tal Shiar uniform set in some way. That could be with a C-Store unlock, a mission reward, or anything else. Also, the same could be done with other Romulan uniforms that NPCs often wear, including the full range of Romulan and Reman civilian clothing.
  • sharksinspacesharksinspace Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    All hail the Tal Shiar Cape. Bump x2
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    enoemg wrote: »
    That happens all the time with threads like this. I don't like it, but there's not much I can do.

    Just remember that the reason that this thread exists is to ask Cryptic to consider, if they haven't already, releasing the full Tal Shiar uniform set in some way. That could be with a C-Store unlock, a mission reward, or anything else. Also, the same could be done with other Romulan uniforms that NPCs often wear, including the full range of Romulan and Reman civilian clothing.
    All hail the Tal Shiar Cape. Bump x2

    Indeed. This isn't some artifical issue, as some die-hard Republicans would like it to be.
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    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    bltrrn wrote: »
    Indeed. This isn't some artifical issue, as some die-hard Republicans would like it to be.

    Prolly because most people don't even wanna play as "republicans", but that's a whole different point.
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    The Tal Shiar uniform variants would be a perfect candidate for a C-store uniform, considering they already have the assets in-game.

    I would gladly pay the zen for those uniforms. I vastly prefer the uniforms the RSE uses in STO to those of the Republic.
  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Why C-Store? Why not free after the well-known mission? Paying extra for content already in-game?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    hoodlum19 wrote: »
    Why C-Store? Why not free after the well-known mission? Paying extra for content already in-game?
    It already IS free. :P

    Actually I think he meant making it a cross faction thing, but..... I'm not sure that's a good idea.
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  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It already IS free. :P

    Actually I think he meant making it a cross faction thing, but..... I'm not sure that's a good idea.


    No need to be a cross-faction.... but then again, nearly everything is cross faction nowadays. Besides, Romulans arent really a separate faction, so what do i know?
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It already IS free. :P

    Actually I think he meant making it a cross faction thing, but..... I'm not sure that's a good idea.
    Eh, just thinking that since Cryptic seems unwilling to release the rest of the Tal Shiar uniform for free atm- I figure if they can monetize it, there's a better chance of it being released for us in the distant future.

    Plus it'd allow Fed/KDF characters to use it on their Embassy/Lobi Romulan bridge officers, which are seriously hurting for uniform options atm.

    Don't get me wrong, I think they should be free, but I don't think Cryptic will do it for free at this point.
  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    What kind of uniform can one have for his Embassy boffs atm?
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    hoodlum19 wrote: »
    What kind of uniform can one have for his Embassy boffs atm?

    I'm not sure, but I've heard that it is a static uniform. :o
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    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    you can customize, but the options are very limited.
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  • themic609themic609 Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Tbh You'll most likely never get it. We KDF are still waiting for the Dahar master coats. for five years now. That's in game. Seems they have much more important "Content" to be working on. :(
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  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Stuff that, in order to unlock them, would probably take 30 minutes of programming and a few megabytes of update.....
  • sharksinspacesharksinspace Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Actually the way I understood it was that most problematic part of making any NPC uniform player usable is making it not clip horribly with every other costume piece (even worse than they already do) and to make sure it scales well if someone wants their character to be the Hulk.
  • odstparker#7820 odstparker Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Actually the way I understood it was that most problematic part of making any NPC uniform player usable is making it not clip horribly with every other costume piece (even worse than they already do) and to make sure it scales well if someone wants their character to be the Hulk.

    There are already so many pieces of almost every single uniform in the game that have clipping problems with every other piece of almost every single uniform in the game, I don't think that this is their top priority...
  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    And besides, they do not clip. Those uniforms have been years in the game, before the clipping "republican" ones. Which means, such bug doesn't exist in that case. So, releasing them for the public would simply be a matter of code, nothing else.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited January 2015
    hoodlum19 wrote: »
    And besides, they do not clip. Those uniforms have been years in the game, before the clipping "republican" ones. Which means, such bug doesn't exist in that case. So, releasing them for the public would simply be a matter of code, nothing else.

    just because it doesnt exist on normal sized characters doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.. look at all the weirdly proportioned characters you see running around. There are any number of ways major clipping could show up on those.

    BUT

    as someone else mentioned, there is already some gods awful clipping issues on bits available to us already so its a non-excuse to deny the items for players
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  • hoodlum19hoodlum19 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    just because it doesnt exist on normal sized characters doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.. look at all the weirdly proportioned characters you see running around. There are any number of ways major clipping could show up on those.

    BUT

    as someone else mentioned, there is already some gods awful clipping issues on bits available to us already so its a non-excuse to deny the items for players

    Well, if i had it MY way and my way only, those oddly proportioned characters would, not only be deleted, but receive a perma-ban from the game as well. Why? Because that's how i do business, what?

    But you do make a point. When the Republican uniform is clipping here and there, i find no trouble with the TS uniform which, in my NORMAL sized toon, wouldn't have any problem.... in fact i am sporting in atm without clipping at all. So, no, if that is their excuse, its a laughable one.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    themic609 wrote: »
    Tbh You'll most likely never get it. We KDF are still waiting for the Dahar master coats. for five years now. That's in game. Seems they have much more important "Content" to be working on. :(

    Not just the coats, there's lots of NPC only stuff for the KDF missing for players.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • ashlotteashlotte Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It's never going to be fixed so long as Cryptic is First Officer and PWE is captain.
  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ashlotte wrote: »
    It's never going to be fixed so long as Cryptic is First Officer and PWE is captain.

    One can always hope.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Maybe in time, they might come off their high horses and, actually allow it to be available to us, hopefully!
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Keeping it up.
    R E M A I N

    Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.

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