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No Scimitar Yet ?

avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Romulan Discussion
Why romulans don't have their scimitar dreadnought ?

I've imagined it like this:


FORE WEAPONS: 5
AFT WEAPONS: 1

WARP: Singularity

SHIELD MOD: 1.3
HULL: 30.000
TURN: 13
IMPULSE MOD: 0.22

POWER BONUS: +10 Weapons, +5 Engines, +5 Auxiliary
Romulan Battle Cloak
Can Equip Cannons

ENG SLOT: 3
SCI SLOT: 2 (+1 Fleet Version)
TAC SLOT: 4

Special Consoles: Biogenic Cascading Pulse


Please devs, give us the most beautiful ship ever *_*
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    Why romulans don't have their scimitar dreadnought ?

    I've imagined it like this:


    FORE WEAPONS: 5
    AFT WEAPONS: 1

    WARP: Singularity

    SHIELD MOD: 1.3
    HULL: 30.000
    TURN: 13
    IMPULSE MOD: 0.22

    POWER BONUS: +10 Weapons, +5 Engines, +5 Auxiliary
    Romulan Battle Cloak
    Can Equip Cannons

    ENG SLOT: 3
    SCI SLOT: 2 (+1 Fleet Version)
    TAC SLOT: 4

    Special Consoles: Biogenic Cascading Pulse


    Please devs, give us the most beautiful ship ever *_*

    Judging from appearances - it will likely have a scorpion hanger.
  • quiiliitiilaquiiliitiila Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Make it a full on carrier please! I wanna get the most outta those elite scorpion fighters! HIGH YIELD PLASMA ALL THE WAY!
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Turn of 13 for the Scimitar? What are you smoking?
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    TRIBBLE it, this is the ship i want!
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  • tedustedus Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Personally I think they'll do a 5000 zen 3 pack with it. Throughout the game there are already different sized Scimitars. I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up with Science and Engineering carriers and a smaller Tactical Scimitar. Pure speculation but those are my thoughts.

    For example Empress Sela's Scimitar isn't much larger than the Ha?feh Assault Warbird or the Mogai.
  • chris919ukchris919uk Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tedus2 wrote: »
    Personally I think they'll do a 5000 zen 3 pack with it. Throughout the game there are already different sized Scimitars. I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up with Science and Engineering carriers and a smaller Tactical Scimitar. Pure speculation but those are my thoughts.

    ^^^This. Or at the very least a standalone 2500 Zen ship.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If the Romulans get the Scimitar, the Feds should get Jupiter or Typhoon, and KDF should get something similar.
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  • wakerwwakerw Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would pay alot of money for a scim carrier, especially with the bridge. and the thalaron stuff. if they're afraid of thalaron being op they can make it have a long charge up time like in Nemesis, but obviously not as long as nemesis, maybe like ten or fifteen seconds.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wakerw wrote: »
    I would pay alot of money for a scim carrier, especially with the bridge. and the thalaron stuff. if they're afraid of thalaron being op they can make it have a long charge up time like in Nemesis, but obviously not as long as nemesis, maybe like ten or fifteen seconds.

    I don't think Cryptic's afraid of allowing people to have a thalaron burst power because it's too powerful for players (although it is a consideration). I think the larger issue is the fact that thalaron radiation is widely viewed as a terrible thing, and people that use it are among the worst offenders of inter-planetary laws and decency.
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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    If the Romulans get the Scimitar, the Feds should get Jupiter or Typhoon, and KDF should get something similar.
    Why? Feds already get the Odyssey, the KDF has the Bortasqu'... the Scimitar as a three-pack would fill a similar role for Romulans.
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  • sarcasticgeek1sarcasticgeek1 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I see it more like this:

    Romulan Scimitar Dreadnought

    FORE WEAPONS: 4
    AFT WEAPONS: 4

    WARP: Singularity

    SHIELD MOD: 1.20
    HULL: 47.000
    TURN: 4
    IMPULSE MOD: 0.15
    Inertia rating 25
    Crew 4000

    POWER BONUS: +10 Weapons, +10 shield power
    Romulan Battle Cloak
    Can Equip Cannons
    Hanner Bays 2: default - Scorpion Fighters

    ENG SLOT: 4
    SCI SLOT: 3
    TAC SLOT: 3

    Boff:
    CMD: Eng
    LTCom: Tac
    LTCom Sci
    LT Uni


    Special Weapon or Console: Cascading Biogenic Pulse

    I would buy it for 2500 Zen.
  • ianjasianjas Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I dont think the Fedeartion would allow their Romulan allies access to Thalaron weaponry
  • trycksh0ttrycksh0t Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ianjas wrote: »
    I dont think the Fedeartion would allow their Romulan allies access to Thalaron weaponry

    That may be true, but the KDF certainly would certainly allow their Romulan allies Thalaron weaponry, as long as they shared. The issue is, however, the Tal Shiar certainly wouldn't hesitate to use Thalaron weaponry (obviously). The Republic, those wimps we're stuck following, on the other hand? I seriously doubt it. Far too cuddly and squishy to manufacture and use weapons of mass destruction.

    In regards to the Scimitar, I couldn't care less. That ship was so disgustingly plot-overpowered it made me sick. Perfect cloak, 52 disruptors, 27 torpedo launchers, and shielding that took everything a Sovereign and two Valdores could throw at it with only 30% shield loss? Oh, and let us not forget it could fire all weapons while cloaked, keep its shields at full-strength while cloaked, and travel at warp velocities high enough to run-down the Enterprise while cloaked.

    I'm not saying Cryptic shouldn't add it in as playable, but personally, I'll stick with my Ha'Nom.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    Why romulans don't have their scimitar dreadnought ?

    Some ships are still incoming and need more development time. The Scimitar is one of those. It's coming. So no worries.
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  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think it makes sense not to release it right away.

    Think about it, why throw it away now when you already have excitement at (possibly) an all-time high. All this new content, a bunch of new toys to play with. There's no need at all for an extra bit of oomph right now.

    When it cools... roll out the Scimitar, and you get some of that heat back into the fire.

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  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Thaloron weaponry is illegal for Klingons too, hopefully they will just make some hand wavium alternative with the same effect and general look.
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  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aveimperator wrote: »
    Turn of 13 for the Scimitar? What are you smoking?

    yeah 13 turn rate.
    like a fed science vessel.

    have you ever watched star trek nemesis ?
    the scimitar flew around the enterprise like a bird of prey *_*

    I gave it a science vessle like configuration:

    1.3 shield modifier (in the movie it has 2 shields)
    30.000 Hull (it withstood the enterprise ramming action, its hull should be very strong)
    13 turn rate (it was very nimble in the movie)
    5-1 weapons (it was heavily armed)
    0.20 impulse modifier

    I think i made it quite similar to the one appeared in the movie.
  • andoriansrusandoriansrus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just give me a Romulan Warbird that functions along the lines of the Vesta... 1 hangar slot... and I will buy that ship the day it releases.....
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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    yeah 13 turn rate.
    like a fed science vessel.

    have you ever watched star trek nemesis ?
    the scimitar flew around the enterprise like a bird of prey *_*

    I gave it a science vessle like configuration:

    1.3 shield modifier (in the movie it has 2 shields)
    30.000 Hull (it withstood the enterprise ramming action, its hull should be very strong)
    13 turn rate (it was very nimble in the movie)
    5-1 weapons (it was heavily armed)
    0.20 impulse modifier

    I think i made it quite similar to the one appeared in the movie.
    You can't make it one-for-one with the film version, though. Gameplay considerations mean either killing that turn rate, or nerfing something else hard.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bluegrassgeek wrote: »
    Why? Feds already get the Odyssey, the KDF has the Bortasqu'... the Scimitar as a three-pack would fill a similar role for Romulans.

    I've always seen the Scimitar as a tier above Odyssey and Bortasqu', similar to the Typhoon or Jupiter.

    Plus keeping the Typhoon and Jupiter part of the conversation is always good.
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  • quiiliitiilaquiiliitiila Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    Plus keeping the Typhoon and Jupiter part of the conversation is always good.

    Yes... Yes it is :D
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sarcasticgeek1 wrote: »
    I see it more like this:

    Romulan Scimitar Dreadnought

    FORE WEAPONS: 4
    AFT WEAPONS: 4

    WARP: Singularity

    SHIELD MOD: 1.20
    HULL: 47.000
    TURN: 4
    IMPULSE MOD: 0.15
    Inertia rating 25
    Crew 4000

    POWER BONUS: +10 Weapons, +10 shield power
    Romulan Battle Cloak
    Can Equip Cannons
    Hanner Bays 2: default - Scorpion Fighters

    ENG SLOT: 4
    SCI SLOT: 3
    TAC SLOT: 3

    Boff:
    CMD: Eng
    LTCom: Tac
    LTCom Sci
    LT Uni


    Special Weapon or Console: Cascading Biogenic Pulse

    I would buy it for 2500 Zen.

    Not sure that that turn rate will accomplish anything.
  • aevlomaevlom Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    With all of the threads crying about the turn rate of the D'D, it'll be amusing when they release the Scimitar. If you think the turn rate won't be even worse (or at best, the same), you're most likely delusional.
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I will never buy a cruiser-like ship, i don't really like them.

    i need:

    1 - cmd tac and lt.cmd tac
    2 - at least 12 turn rate
    3 - at least 4 fore weapons

    then they can make it as they wish ...
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aevlom wrote: »
    With all of the threads crying about the turn rate of the D'D, it'll be amusing when they release the Scimitar. If you think the turn rate won't be even worse (or at best, the same), you're most likely delusional.

    If Cryptic want to make money they will need to make the Scimitar more than just another version of the existing Tier V Romulan Ships.

    And to do that it will need to be a heavy-focused science vessel or escort.

    Romulan ships offer some of the slowest + slow turning ships in the game, so yeah - I do not support a request for another brick. I have no intention or inclination at rp'ing Shinzon in exploration missions.
  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf
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    edited May 2013
    This could very well be the upcoming Vet ship (1000 day ship)!!

    Could you imagine how many people would be angry! :)
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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bugspatteredjack wrote: »
    This could very well be the upcoming Vet ship (1000 day ship)!!

    Could you imagine how many people would be angry! :)

    Doubt that they would ever make a vet ship one of the cannon ships. Thats probably why the Fed and KDF ones are kitbashed.

    The Scimitar is one of the archetype Romulan ships. Its like locking the Defiant or another popular Fed ship behind a huge pay wall.
  • ariusdecimusariusdecimus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sarcasticgeek1 wrote: »
    I see it more like this:

    Romulan Scimitar Dreadnought

    FORE WEAPONS: 4
    AFT WEAPONS: 4

    WARP: Singularity

    SHIELD MOD: 1.20
    HULL: 47.000
    TURN: 4
    IMPULSE MOD: 0.15
    Inertia rating 25
    Crew 4000

    POWER BONUS: +10 Weapons, +10 shield power
    Romulan Battle Cloak
    Can Equip Cannons
    Hanner Bays 2: default - Scorpion Fighters

    ENG SLOT: 4
    SCI SLOT: 3
    TAC SLOT: 3

    Boff:
    CMD: Eng
    LTCom: Tac
    LTCom Sci
    LT Uni


    Special Weapon or Console: Cascading Biogenic Pulse

    I would buy it for 2500 Zen.

    Too strong/not unique enough (IMO).

    Should be 2 SCI slots.
    Should be 3 base turn rate (make it the toughest/slowest ship in the game by far).
    Should be 5 fore 2 aft weapons.

    I think these changes would make it play significantly different from any other ship
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    why, for God's sake ?
    why you want another flying brick ?

    1 - it would never match to the one appeared in the movie.
    2 - romulans already have enougt of these ships.

    in the movie the scimitar was very nimble, and its weapons configuration can be compared to this:

    5-1 or 5-2
    (it only used a turret as aft weapon in the movie)

    i'd say 5-1 to not make it too OP.
    it got 2 shields, so i'd say to give it 1.3 shield mod.
    i'd say 27K-30K hull to not make it too OP.
    it was very fast and nimble:
    12 turn rate
    0.20 impulse mod

    due to its heavy weaponry, i'd say at least 4 tac slot and at least 1 cmd tac and 1 lt.cmd tac.

    in the movie, the scimitar appeared as the most powerful ship ever for weapons and shields, and it was also very nimble.

    Also, it never used scorpion fighters, so i think we can say it had a sort of shuttle bay, like the enterprise ones, but in STO the Galaxy-Class doesn't have hangar bays.
    (no fed cruiser have them)

    also, i really don't like cruiser ships, i tried the D'Deridex and i hated it.
  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    avengerkid1993 wrote: »
    due to its heavy weaponry, i'd say at least 4 tac slot and at least 1 cmd tac and 1 lt.cmd tac.

    in the movie, the scimitar appeared as the most powerful ship ever for weapons and shields, and it was also very nimble.

    And that's why it won't appear in-game the way people are fantasizing. It cannot be the most powerful ship. Something has to give.
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