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Tier 5 Constitution With New Movie Skin Please.

captainconradcaptainconrad Member Posts: 48 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Federation Discussion
I know you guys are against a Tier 5 Connie, I know that a skin from the new universe wouldn't make any sense and getting the rights to it would be a challenge, but please make this possible. With the new movie series, people are going to start checking this game out, getting a Constitution Class ship and wondering where in the h*** the new movie version is. We don't need an explanation for it being in the game, though one would make for another alternate timeline mission. This would be purely for commercializing purposes and more importantly, I and I'm sure many others would like to fly one.
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Pointless thread. . . Not going to happen note along now nothing to see here

    On a side note keep that vile ship where it belongs in non Canon movies

    Thanks
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Whenever I see one of these, I think to myself: "we need a function that scans if this suggestion has already been made".

    This suggestion has already been beaten to little pieces over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over in the past 3 years.

    PLEASE STOP BEATING the dead horse.
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Tek-nick-ly speaking, this is about a Federation starship so the thread belongs in the Federation Shipyards. And here it goes.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    paramount arent likely to allow it without exorbitant cost, and i dont see cbs being willing to share territory either.

    All it's going to take is a larger communications or media company buying both and merging them again.
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  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If it got us a tier 5 connie refit I wouldn't care if they added the new one.
  • laro1984laro1984 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Beside the quali of the new Movies, it wouldnt make any sense because we play in a total other universe where the ships never where build in this way because nero changed the timeline :/
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I for one would prefer the original JJ trek's 1701 would spoil the game since it is meant to be in the prime universe I personally like to think that JJ trek doesnt exist especially after the things I have heard of the film
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://www.slashfilm.com/complicated-star-trek-rights-could-push-j-j-abrams-into-a-multimedia-star-wars-universe/#more-176470

    might be why we arent seeing some of the things we want


    and can someone explain the hate for the new movie Enterprise to me. It looks just like TMP ship with agressive looking nacelles.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If I see a JJ Enterprise, I'll kindly blow that vile monstrosity of a ship out of the stars for free. It's ugly
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    • magusofborgmagusofborg Member Posts: 186 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      jam3s1701 wrote: »
      On a side note keep that vile ship where it belongs in non Canon movies

      Thanks

      Lol, there's always that older generation that refuses to accept new Trek.:D

      There were people who refused to accept TNG as true Trek when it first came out.:eek:
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    • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      You're not a real trekkie if you don't love/hate different kinds of trek.
    • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      On one hand, it's a distinctive ship from a popular movie series that's active right now. So Cryptic could make a lot of money off it. Plus, it would resolve the T5 Connie debate since the JJprise is supposedly more advanced than its counterpart in "our" universe. And we know the Tholians have been messing around with other universes.

      On the other hand, the JJ bashing on these forums would increase exponentially. And I don't think I could handle that.

      The only way I could see it working is in a lockbox. And that's assuming Cryptic/PWE gets the rights to use it, which seems rather unlikely.
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    • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      stofsk wrote: »
      You're not a real trekkie if you don't love/hate different kinds of trek.

      funny...i hated TNG when it came out and still get a twinge of dislike when I see someone flying a Galaxy
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    • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      I know you guys are against a Tier 5 Connie, I know that a skin from the new universe wouldn't make any sense and getting the rights to it would be a challenge, but please make this possible. With the new movie series, people are going to start checking this game out, getting a Constitution Class ship and wondering where in the h*** the new movie version is. We don't need an explanation for it being in the game, though one would make for another alternate timeline mission. This would be purely for commercializing purposes and more importantly, I and I'm sure many others would like to fly one.

      Seeing as how this is what like the 4th or 5th thread over this in the past two weeks, I'll put this in as plain English as possible in hope of finally stopping such trash from cluttering the forums.

      IF it is in another game, book, comic, 2009 Star Trek or Newer CRYPTIC CANNOT PUT IT IN THE FRAKING GAME!!! Yes there has been 1 or 2 exceptions, one of which was the ship designer actively trying to get it in the game as much as fans wanted it, the second I believe was the Titan.

      And just for making yet another thread about this......BAD DOG, BAD DOG.....OUTSIDE!!!! (and yes I mean the airlock) :D
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    • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      well considering how you aren't the owner of the board or a mod...you can't tell people what to post on these boards. Maybe since there have been a bunch of threads about it then someone will see that there is a desire for it and may change peoples minds.
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    • shaanithegreenshaanithegreen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      khan5000 wrote: »
      and can someone explain the hate for the new movie Enterprise to me. It looks just like TMP ship with agressive looking nacelles.

      "It's not exactly like the one I saw when I was a kid, and therefore it is wrong."

      -Every nerd everywhere about everything forever.
    • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      I read the article linked on page 1 and this caught my eye:
      There will be television properties, theme park rides and spin-off films all centered around the new trilogy that Abrams will oversee. It?s a page borrowed from Disney?s exploitation of the Marvel comic books and if it works out, it should make Abrams very rich indeed.

      Taken out of context, this is really disappointing. How about a movie made for the fans, eh?

      Regardless, if that article helps everyone understand that asking Cryptic for this-or-that ship or uniform is not something they can simply "make it so", then it may help stem the tide of these request posts.

      There is a very good reason Cryptic is not responding the some requests and its not their fault. Frankly, I would rather Cryptic come out and just respond to the requests with *something* to help us know what they can and can't do. I'm not asking for promises, just possibilities.
    • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      I read the article linked on page 1 and this caught my eye:



      Taken out of context, this is really disappointing. How about a movie made for the fans, eh?

      Regardless, if that article helps everyone understand that asking Cryptic for this-or-that ship or uniform is not something they can simply "make it so", then it may help stem the tide of these request posts.

      There is a very good reason Cryptic is not responding the some requests and its not their fault. Frankly, I would rather Cryptic come out and just respond to the requests with *something* to help us know what they can and can't do. I'm not asking for promises, just possibilities.

      it wouldnt make him rich unless he is working on everything. He'd only make money off spinoffs is if he exec produces the new tv show. he would not see a dime off comics or action figures or anything like that.
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    • phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      khan5000 wrote: »
      well considering how you aren't the owner of the board or a mod...you can't tell people what to post on these boards. Maybe since there have been a bunch of threads about it then someone will see that there is a desire for it and may change peoples minds.

      It's explicitly against the PWE Community Rules and Policies to spam, which includes:
      Creating Duplicate Threads (A Duplicate Thread is defined as a thread which discusses the same topic as another thread, which has had a new post within the last 30 days.)

      Since there was a Tier 5 Constitution thread with the most recent new post being May 15, 2013 and this thread was created May 16, 2013 the OP should have posted there instead. Perhaps a thread merge is in order?
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    • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      So you either are the thread enforcer or not....and considering how the official boards manager isn't shutting down/ merging or locking the thread....you still don't have a leg to stand on....I don't see you in the countless Galaxy threads complaining...
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    • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      Since there was a Tier 5 Constitution thread with the most recent new post being May 15, 2013 and this thread was created May 16, 2013 the OP should have posted there instead. Perhaps a thread merge is in order?

      This thread is about adding a New Star Trek SKIN to a T5 Constitution.

      The other thread is about adding a T5 Constitution.

      They are different topics.

      This thread is going to be filled with talk about Paramount, JJ Abrams, Hatred for JJ Abrams, possibly a Lost or Alias reference, a whole lot of talk about Star Wars, Licensing, Jar Jar Binks, and maybe even some USS Vengeance hatred.

      The other thread is filled with talk about CBS saying no. The Constitution is too old. Too small. And all sorts of other things that do not even have an impact on this topic because CBS has never said anything official about the new Enterprise in the new films, it's not too old since the time travel thing in the first movie created this huge ship based on scans of the Narada and borg tech mixes in there too, and it's a lot larger than the old Constitution was so it's definitely the appropriate size.

      Totally different threads which will argue back and forth completely different minutiae.

      Here's my advice to the people complaining about these topics getting discussed repeatedly and being created all the time:

      Don't click on the thread.

      I have an anecdote to share from my own experience.

      I am absolutely sick and tired of reading about the Dilithium Refining Cap. I see new threads created about that every other day. It's a dead end conversation to me. Cryptic hasn't said anything new about it in AGES. So it's just the same old arguments hashed and rehashed over and over again.

      You know what I do? I click on T5 Connie threads instead. They still interest me. I haven't clicked on a Dilithium Cap thread in at least three months.

      Viola.

      Problem solved. All it took was initiative on my part.
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    • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      khan5000 wrote: »
      well considering how you aren't the owner of the board or a mod...you can't tell people what to post on these boards. Maybe since there have been a bunch of threads about it then someone will see that there is a desire for it and may change peoples minds.

      I never said anything that could be in anyway indirectly or directly be perceived as telling someone what they can and cannot post. I have no idea where you got that from that I was trying to.

      Technically this is a semi separate topic because of the additional request of the 2009 ST Enterprise skin. However, it is just another spin on trying to get a T5 Constitution added to the game so really it isn't anything new.

      I'd love to know where in the hell this perception of "More threads on same topic = More Dev response". If they have to search through tons of different threads on the same exact topic with multiple pages per thread, chances are they're not going to, they've got better things to do then search high and low through the entire forums trying to find all the threads on the same topic, same goes with mods and merging threads.

      A perfect example of this is a week or two ago someone spammed the same topic across multiple sections of the forums. There were countless replies about spamming threads in multiple sections and they accrued multiple pages. By your logic that would show a huge desire for whatever that was about simple because of thread and reply count. And no not all of them got merged/closed because a couple were missed. Different sections of the forums have different mods, and mods are busy people too ya know.

      Also technically since this is in relation to a tier 5 ship it should actually be in the c-store and promotions section, but you don't see it moved....why.....because then the forums get even more cluttered with Thread moved/merged.

      If we all kept like topics in single threads and in proper sections the devs would have a much easier time finding topics that matter to us and be able to better gauge our desire for something. Not to mention it would also be a lot less clutter on the forums. Why should mods have to do all the "housework" when it's simple common sense we could all do ourselves that would make everything better on multiple fronts.

      There's a huge difference between saying "this is actually really similiar to this topic thread here and/or would best be put in this section"

      than

      "Why the hell are you posting this garbage and not even in the right section"

      like you're accusing me of trying to tell the op what to post and what not to.

      Personally I like the design of the 2009 Enterprise, a bit too bright white on the inside though. Legal issues aside there are plenty of storyline possibilities for adding it in, but the legal issues are what will probably prevent it from ever being added and that's the point my original post was trying to make.
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    • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      Please people, have a soul and stop beating this dead horse!

      Thank you.
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    • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      That abomination of a ship doesn't belong in this game for a slew of reasons, most importantly its part of a alternate time.

      Don't give me any of this about how a story involving the Tholians could bring it to our time, why in gods name would the Tholians go back in time and take inferior vessels? Why steal 23rd century tech when you're already working with 29th century tech?
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    • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      lianthelia wrote: »
      That abomination of a ship doesn't belong in this game for a slew of reasons, most importantly its part of a alternate time.

      Don't give me any of this about how a story involving the Tholians could bring it to our time, why in gods name would the Tholians go back in time and take inferior vessels? Why steal 23rd century tech when you're already working with 29th century tech?

      Well they took the Enterprise C and a D-7.
    • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      nothing from JJ movie can be used in this game other then talking about spock and nero and Romulus got nuked by JJ him self

      and ty ty ty star trek gods for that


      edit to make it very clear im am talking about the ships
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    • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      khan5000 wrote: »
      http://www.slashfilm.com/complicated-star-trek-rights-could-push-j-j-abrams-into-a-multimedia-star-wars-universe/#more-176470

      might be why we arent seeing some of the things we want


      and can someone explain the hate for the new movie Enterprise to me. It looks just like TMP ship with agressive looking nacelles.


      Not hate it's just some people don't like the ship and it's their right not to. some people don't like the oversized nacelles

      But lets get back to the main point of this thread. Plain and simple, mr abrams constitution class enterprise doesn't belong in this timeline. Theres no real canon reason why starfleet would use a totally different design for their ship from a alternate reality that they may have little to no knowledge about.


      If alot of people want alternate universe ships then it would be logical for them to focus their efforts on getting a mmo that focuses on said universe.
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    • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      daan2006 wrote: »
      nothing from JJ movie can be used in this game other then talking about spock and nero and Romulus got nuked by JJ him self

      And the red matter capacitor. And the weird romulan face tatts. And you can actually make your new romulan characters look like they were part of Nero's crew with the uniform options in LoR. And the Jellyfish is part of STO's timeline. And the Kelvin can be part of the STO timeline. And the Klingon Honor Guard armor set. And so on and so forth.

      This game's entire storyline begins with the premise of that movie. (And before anyone says that comes from the countdown comic ... look it up ... the Countdown comic is a movie tie in, written by people who worked for the 2009 film's writers, and the countdown comic's story came about from Kurzman, Orci and Abrams giving the comic's writers the story idea).
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    • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
      edited May 2013
      lianthelia wrote: »
      Don't give me any of this about how a story involving the Tholians could bring it to our time, why in gods name would the Tholians go back in time and take inferior vessels? Why steal 23rd century tech when you're already working with 29th century tech?

      Q Junior can transplant it to your time to annoy people. And then Luclsey and Dulmer can retrofit it to be in line with this time period's technological capabilities.

      Boom. Storyline done.
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