There's at least one story reporting that the SW production staff is jettisoning the EU, and writing completely new stories to follow on from the original trilogy.
I've already ordered forward batteries to intensify firepower, and set deflectors on double front - I hope that's going to be enough to withstand the nerdrage storms...
*seeing the Nerdrage crapstorm*
Look at the size of that thing! (that's what she said)
Pick up your visual scanning here they come!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "This planet smells, it must be the Klingons"
Kinda like someone stealing a starship from Spacedock because everyone's asleep?
Kinda like fitting 2, full grown humpback whales into a ship that doesn't have enough cargo space for them?
Kinda like making the old communications officer strip and do a feather boa show before a deadly gunfight?
Kinda like Soran's missile launching from the surface of Veridian 3 and hitting the sun in 10 seconds?
Kinda like Kirk and Picard going back in time to point that jeopardizes their lives and everyone elses instead of going back to a point in time BEFORE Soran even get's his little missile system set up?
Shall I go on? No really, would you like me to continue with the many many times "plausibility" has been stretched, snapped and stepped on "beyond justification" in Star Trek features?
:rolleyes:
Ohh, ohh do the one about the magic torpedo that makes planets and possibly suns from a nebula and can ressurect the dead.
There's at least one story reporting that the SW production staff is jettisoning the EU, and writing completely new stories to follow on from the original trilogy.
I've already ordered forward batteries to intensify firepower, and set deflectors on double front - I hope that's going to be enough to withstand the nerdrage storms...
Meh, they've been b#@ching about that since The Clone Wars started doing that.
There's at least one story reporting that the SW production staff is jettisoning the EU, and writing completely new stories to follow on from the original trilogy.
I've already ordered forward batteries to intensify firepower, and set deflectors on double front - I hope that's going to be enough to withstand the nerdrage storms...
Lucas himself consistently crapped all over the EU...though, to be fair, there was nerdrage about that, too. But, to an extent, it doesn't make sense to me. Star Wars, until now, was whatever Lucas said it was. If you only like the original trilogy, or some part of it (which would include myself, btw), then you just aren't much of a Star Wars fan. The stuff you don't like is just as much Star Wars as the stuff you do.
Star Trek is a little different in that its gone through many hands, and even while he was alive and 'in charge' Roddenberry had varying degrees of actual involvement. There wasn't one guy, ala Lucas, who owned everything and ruled over it all by fiat.
Lucas himself consistently crapped all over the EU...though, to be fair, there was nerdrage about that, too. But, to an extent, it doesn't make sense to me. Star Wars, until now, was whatever Lucas said it was. If you only like the original trilogy, or some part of it (which would include myself, btw), then you just aren't much of a Star Wars fan. The stuff you don't like is just as much Star Wars as the stuff you do.
Star Trek is a little different in that its gone through many hands, and even while he was alive and 'in charge' Roddenberry had varying degrees of actual involvement. There wasn't one guy, ala Lucas, who owned everything and ruled over it all by fiat.
I just wonder how many people who raged against Lucas for the past 10 years are going to suddenly put him up on a pedestal as they now rage against JJ for destroying Lucas's legacy.
It's interesting how nostalgia really changes things. People rarely complain about DS9 going against the spirit of Trek, but in many ways it did. Several of DS9's later story arcs weren't implemented until Roddenberry died because he thought those stories betrayed the essence of Star Trek.
But as soon as he died, those stories became a major part of DS9, and are now some of the fans' favorite arcs.
Several of DS9's later story arcs weren't implemented until Roddenberry died because he thought those stories betrayed the essence of Star Trek.
This is the type of stuff that gets made up and then spread, and soon we start to believe it as fact. Gene died in October of 1991. DS9's first episode was in Jan of 1993.
All of DS9 is post-Gene. No one needed to hold back story arcs until Gene died. He had passed 16 months before DS9 even aired. At that point I doubt more then the 1st episode was even in outline form.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
This is the type of stuff that gets made up and then spread, and soon we start to believe it as fact. Gene died in October of 1991. DS9's first episode was in Jan of 1993.
All of DS9 is post-Gene. No one needed to hold back story arcs until Gene died. He had passed 16 months before DS9 even aired. At that point I doubt more then the 1st episode was even in outline form.
My bad.
It was Rick Berman who thought the war storyline in DS9 went against Roddenberry's vision. Gene was involved marginally in the development of DS9 in 91, btw, but only marginally.
To clarify, Gene had a rule that by the 24th century "human conflict that exists today had subsided" and DS9 didn't really hold true to that vision, in Berman's view.
So it was Berman who said DS9's later story arcs went against Gene's vision.
So the point remains, but I admit I got some facts wrong.
Yeah, I was unknowingly and lazily perpetuating a myth that was (at best) half true. There were pushes against the story arc of DS9 based on it going against Gene's vision, but it was Berman, not Gene. While Gene was alive during the beginning of DS9's development, his involvement was minimal. It was Berman who was against the story arc, speaking (he felt) for Gene.
I'm thankful to have been corrected on it. My apologies for stating something that isn't true. Normally I'm much better than that.
Gene forgets that with each new generation comes new host of problems. It's just the nature of human character. Can't expect every 20 something Wesley Crusher to be all wise knowing and at the helm of the Fed flagship.
Lyndon Brewer: 20% chance to capture enemy ship for 60 seconds on successful use of boarding party.
JJs style would lend better to Star Wars anyways, Star Wars has always been actiony adventure...like the newest Star Trek. Star Wars has never been as thought provoking as Star Trek.
What worries me most is whether or not the film will feel like classic Star Wars, used universe...and a continuation of the original story.
Star Trek is as much thought-provoking as it is action-adventure. That has never changed and the new was the not the first. In fact, except for TMP, all Trek films were action-adventure, and they were promoted as such.
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*seeing the Nerdrage crapstorm*
Look at the size of that thing! (that's what she said)
Pick up your visual scanning here they come!
What's the midichlorian count on that nerdrage?
Ohh, ohh do the one about the magic torpedo that makes planets and possibly suns from a nebula and can ressurect the dead.
Um, Star Trek was already on the map with the last one what with its positive reviews and large box office.
Meh, they've been b#@ching about that since The Clone Wars started doing that.
Over 9000.
Lucas himself consistently crapped all over the EU...though, to be fair, there was nerdrage about that, too. But, to an extent, it doesn't make sense to me. Star Wars, until now, was whatever Lucas said it was. If you only like the original trilogy, or some part of it (which would include myself, btw), then you just aren't much of a Star Wars fan. The stuff you don't like is just as much Star Wars as the stuff you do.
Star Trek is a little different in that its gone through many hands, and even while he was alive and 'in charge' Roddenberry had varying degrees of actual involvement. There wasn't one guy, ala Lucas, who owned everything and ruled over it all by fiat.
I just wonder how many people who raged against Lucas for the past 10 years are going to suddenly put him up on a pedestal as they now rage against JJ for destroying Lucas's legacy.
It's interesting how nostalgia really changes things. People rarely complain about DS9 going against the spirit of Trek, but in many ways it did. Several of DS9's later story arcs weren't implemented until Roddenberry died because he thought those stories betrayed the essence of Star Trek.
But as soon as he died, those stories became a major part of DS9, and are now some of the fans' favorite arcs.
All of DS9 is post-Gene. No one needed to hold back story arcs until Gene died. He had passed 16 months before DS9 even aired. At that point I doubt more then the 1st episode was even in outline form.
My bad.
It was Rick Berman who thought the war storyline in DS9 went against Roddenberry's vision. Gene was involved marginally in the development of DS9 in 91, btw, but only marginally.
To clarify, Gene had a rule that by the 24th century "human conflict that exists today had subsided" and DS9 didn't really hold true to that vision, in Berman's view.
So it was Berman who said DS9's later story arcs went against Gene's vision.
So the point remains, but I admit I got some facts wrong.
Yeah, I was unknowingly and lazily perpetuating a myth that was (at best) half true. There were pushes against the story arc of DS9 based on it going against Gene's vision, but it was Berman, not Gene. While Gene was alive during the beginning of DS9's development, his involvement was minimal. It was Berman who was against the story arc, speaking (he felt) for Gene.
I'm thankful to have been corrected on it. My apologies for stating something that isn't true. Normally I'm much better than that.
Weekend at Bernie's makes me think of Infinity So Awesome
cause sometimes its party time!
What worries me most is whether or not the film will feel like classic Star Wars, used universe...and a continuation of the original story.