The issue im having is with the amount of gear they are giving away in the Legacy pack, it seems that theyre giving everything you would normally get as a LTS member in the legacy pack.. (Not including the ships) I.E all the titles ect.
Which either means theyre going to bring something spectacular out for LTS's or just a stripped version of the Legacy Pack..
There are no rewards listed in the blog that are also available in the Legacy Pack. You do get a VA ship token, but that is a per character unlock, where as the Legacy Pack grants you account-wide unlock versions of the ships -- this also would make you eligible for any Fleet Ship Modules discounts if you are looking to get a fleet version of one of the available ships, where as the VA token (which can only be used once per character) does not gain you access to this.
There are no rewards listed in the blog that are also available in the Legacy Pack. You do get a VA ship token, but that is a per character unlock, where as the Legacy Pack grants you account-wide unlock versions of the ships -- this also would make you eligible for any Fleet Ship Modules discounts if you are looking to get a fleet version of one of the available ships, where as the VA token (which can only be used once per character) does not gain you access to this.
There was a correction to the blog. It listed "Alien-Gen Hybrid Romulan Species", but it should actually be "Alien-Gen Romulan Species" (no hybrid -- it's the same alien gen available in the Federation and KDF character creator, same options and all).
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Cool. Will we have access to the new Romulan options in the alien maker, in case we want to make Romulans who just happen to use the Alien traits and sliders, like the foreheads, hair, and eyebrows?
There are no rewards listed in the blog that are also available in the Legacy Pack. You do get a VA ship token, but that is a per character unlock, where as the Legacy Pack grants you account-wide unlock versions of the ships -- this also would make you eligible for any Fleet Ship Modules discounts if you are looking to get a fleet version of one of the available ships, where as the VA token (which can only be used once per character) does not gain you access to this.
Is there any clear answer on Feds/Klingons being able to use Romulan BOffs?
On Tribble, we can. However, text of the Starter and Legacy packs seem to imply we can't.
If I had any input on that, here's what I would suggest:
You can clearly block Romulans from using Fed/KDF features until they choose a side. This suggests there's a trigger that can be flipped to allow this.
My suggestion would be:
- Allow Fed or Klingon Captains to use Romulan BOs (including the Reman Borg) after maxing out Romulan rep.
- Upgrade the Embassy BOs accordingly, perhaps with a minor 5th trait, to make them more desirable.
Making it absurdly easy/common would be weird. But disallowing it entirely seems unfair as Romulans get access to Fed and Klingon BOs.
Is there any clear answer on Feds/Klingons being able to use Romulan BOffs?
On Tribble, we can. However, text of the Starter and Legacy packs seem to imply we can't.
If I had any input on that, here's what I would suggest:
You can clearly block Romulans from using Fed/KDF features until they choose a side. This suggests there's a trigger that can be flipped to allow this.
My suggestion would be:
- Allow Fed or Klingon Captains to use Romulan BOs (including the Reman Borg) after maxing out Romulan rep.
- Upgrade the Embassy BOs accordingly, perhaps with a minor 5th trait, to make them more desirable.
Making it absurdly easy/common would be weird. But disallowing it entirely seems unfair as Romulans get access to Fed and Klingon BOs.
In addition to this, would Fed/KDF players be able to (eventually) outfit their Romulan/Reman BOffs with the appropriate Starfleet/KDF uniforms?
Laws of thermodynamics as applied to life: 0 - You must play the game. 1 - You can't win. 2 - You can't break even. 3 - You can't quit.
There was a correction to the blog. It listed "Alien-Gen Hybrid Romulan Species", but it should actually be "Alien-Gen Romulan Species" (no hybrid -- it's the same alien gen available in the Federation and KDF character creator, same options and all).
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Blah.
♪ I'm going around not in circles but in spirographs.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Romulan ridges are being added to the Romulan Republic alien gen.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Some of the Romulan NPCs we see have a forehead that is not like other Romulan foreheads, but looks very good. I think it's the "heavy brow". Any chance that could be added to the Romulan species?
♪ I'm going around not in circles but in spirographs.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
There was a correction to the blog. It listed "Alien-Gen Hybrid Romulan Species", but it should actually be "Alien-Gen Romulan Species" (no hybrid -- it's the same alien gen available in the Federation and KDF character creator, same options and all).
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
BOOOOO to this. You guys had an opportunity to keep the Romulan faction focused, and free of stupid Alien Gen monstrosities, and now you've gone and given in to the bloody Starbase UGC people.
Not crazy about Aliengen. At best, I find it an unfortunate necessity because the standard sliders are about 25% too restrictive to make really distinctive faces. At worst, it turns everywhere into Mos Eisley Cantina.
However, looking at traits, I personally think Hybrid and Aliengen should be separate categories. I have an idea for what Hybrids could be and why they might be more desirable than aliens.
Well, I'm mostly ok with the rewards, but I'm not very happy about the fact that the Veteran ship will not be available from the get go.
I don't know about the rest of you, but not having things like the Veteran ship ready for launch for the first ever expasion pack that STO has, and other things added later seems like bad planning, and also lack of overall quality of the expansion.
Now don't get me wrong, LOR is amazing speaking as a tester, but that we continually, not only with LOR, but other patches/updates/seasons have to wait for things to be implemented at a later date is a tad of a let down, and makes it feel a bit lackluster imho atleast.
Well, I'm mostly ok with the rewards, but I'm not very happy about the fact that the Veteran ship will not be available from the get go.
I don't know about the rest of you, but not having things like the Veteran ship ready for launch for the first ever expasion pack that STO has, and other things added later seems like bad planning, and also lack of overall quality of the expansion.
Now don't get me wrong, LOR is amazing speaking as a tester, but that we continually, not only with LOR, but other patches/updates/seasons have to wait for things to be implemented at a later date is a tad of a let down, and makes it feel a bit lackluster imho atleast.
I suspect this is because they planned to have Romulans fly KDF/Fed ships. Rolling back that decision based on input means they now have to design a Romulan Vet ship when they would have had Romulans just fly the Fed/KDF Vet ships before.
I suspect this is because they planned to have Romulans fly KDF/Fed ships. Rolling back that decision based on input means they now have to design a Romulan Vet ship when they would have had Romulans just fly the Fed/KDF Vet ships before.
Well, that is just poor planning if that's true. Why would they not give the Romulans their own unique looking Vet ship and plan this from the get go??
As the saying goes: Proper planning prevents pi.. poor performance.
So some one got a tad lazy in the planning stages it would seem, but then again, we won't know for sure what the thought process was. But not having a unique looking Romulan vet ship, just seems like some one thought that we would be happy flying the existing Vet ships...
What I already saw on Tribble regarding the Romulan story missions, how do random Aliens fit in ? That story is very Romulan, it'll be strange to be treated as a Romulan, when you're a giant tree monster or a cute PvP gnome....
Those are all marked as not available at launch and scheduled for development. So there are no screens to share at this time
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
And this is my biggest annoyance of all. The 1000-day ship not being available at launch is fine because you shouldn't need a end game ship at launch. The material and all the costume pieces you can use from the very start and not having them bothers me.
And now two-questions:
1. Is the Liberated Romulan species at least going to be available at launch?
2. Why was it decided that all of the costumes and ship material can wait until after launch? Like I said before, this bothers me.
What I already saw on Tribble regarding the Romulan story missions, how do random Aliens fit in ? That story is very Romulan, it'll be strange to be treated as a Romulan, when you're a giant tree monster or a cute PvP gnome....
I think we can lay the blame solely at the feet of that "Hav" guy from the Starbase UGC podcast. Cryptic had it right the first time around - the Romulan storyline shouldn't allow non-Romulans or Remans.
I think we can lay the blame solely at the feet of that "Hav" guy from the Starbase UGC podcast. Cryptic had it right the first time around - the Romulan storyline shouldn't allow non-Romulans or Remans.
As one that doesn't listen or watch or whatever podcasts (I catch one once in a blue moon), what happened?
There was a correction to the blog. It listed "Alien-Gen Hybrid Romulan Species", but it should actually be "Alien-Gen Romulan Species" (no hybrid -- it's the same alien gen available in the Federation and KDF character creator, same options and all).
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Well I have to admit, that is rather dissapointing. I was really looking forward to your inital decision to reduce the number of 'alien' chars. in the Romulan Republic and even them to be restricted to hybrids. It kinda' made sense for the story you're trying to tell and it would do wonders to preserve the ambience of a Romulan faction.
The way I see it now, it's just another mega mix like Starfleet. It actually makes me want to play that faction less. I was looking forward towards an all Romulan experience and building the Romulan Republic from scratch to replace the RSE for all Romulans. Now, not so much.
Meh, well now at least hurry up and open up the Joined Trill option for the Romulan faction for the people that were asking for it on the forums. The argument of the Romulans being kinda' xenophobic and not allowing Trill in the Republic falls apart when, as some players have mentioned before, there will be Batman and Spiderman joining the Romulans. :P
Federation or Klingon Liberated Borg Bridge Officer
Type 8 Shuttle Pet
Original Series U.S.S Enterprise Starter Ship
Rivera Tribble or Pet Targ Pup
"
The Liberated Borg Officer should be the one in the Legacy Pack, not a FED or KDF specific BOff. being able to buy the C-Store Reman BOff and claiming the Amazon BOff and getting the Kithomer Accord Accolade Borg Boff... so Romulans can have 3 Borg BOffs AND a liberated Borg Captain while Fed + KDF are limited to 2 Borg BOffs? ...not sure if that is good.
Type 8 Shuttle Pet ? for Romulans? *shrug* i hate those non-combat Pets anyway, waste of inventory space and nothing else.
Original Series U.S.S Enterprise Starter Ship <- this is really REALLY useless after level 10, and what would i want with a Fed Ship if i go KDF anyway?
Blue TOS Phasers on a Warbird?... mmmh yah i think you may want to rethink that one.
Rivera Tribble or Pet Targ Pup <- meh... how about a special Combat Eppoh instead?
...oh and that Captains Table don't need to say anything about that one, right?
I think we can lay the blame solely at the feet of that "Hav" guy from the Starbase UGC podcast. Cryptic had it right the first time around - the Romulan storyline shouldn't allow non-Romulans or Remans.
Interesting what a one-man-****storm can achieve these days.
So the green side will get its share of silly-looking alien characters, too. Bummer. Words cannot express how dissappointed I am.
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There are no rewards listed in the blog that are also available in the Legacy Pack. You do get a VA ship token, but that is a per character unlock, where as the Legacy Pack grants you account-wide unlock versions of the ships -- this also would make you eligible for any Fleet Ship Modules discounts if you are looking to get a fleet version of one of the available ships, where as the VA token (which can only be used once per character) does not gain you access to this.
EDIT: DOFFs, Keys, C-Store costumes, etc. are not anything normally given for having a LTS account (http://sto.perfectworld.com/lifetime)
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Thanks for clearing that up.
Been testing the new faction out, amazing job you guys are doing.. we all appreciate it
Cool. Will we have access to the new Romulan options in the alien maker, in case we want to make Romulans who just happen to use the Alien traits and sliders, like the foreheads, hair, and eyebrows?
Is there any clear answer on Feds/Klingons being able to use Romulan BOffs?
On Tribble, we can. However, text of the Starter and Legacy packs seem to imply we can't.
If I had any input on that, here's what I would suggest:
You can clearly block Romulans from using Fed/KDF features until they choose a side. This suggests there's a trigger that can be flipped to allow this.
My suggestion would be:
- Allow Fed or Klingon Captains to use Romulan BOs (including the Reman Borg) after maxing out Romulan rep.
- Upgrade the Embassy BOs accordingly, perhaps with a minor 5th trait, to make them more desirable.
Making it absurdly easy/common would be weird. But disallowing it entirely seems unfair as Romulans get access to Fed and Klingon BOs.
In addition to this, would Fed/KDF players be able to (eventually) outfit their Romulan/Reman BOffs with the appropriate Starfleet/KDF uniforms?
Blah.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Some of the Romulan NPCs we see have a forehead that is not like other Romulan foreheads, but looks very good. I think it's the "heavy brow". Any chance that could be added to the Romulan species?
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
It put me off Feds -With KDF i have adapted -I was hoping that after that horrible inqusition on the podcast they would stop it for the Romulans.
Perhaps later we can join the real RSE and purge the the non Romulan freaks.
But each to their own.
BOOOOO to this. You guys had an opportunity to keep the Romulan faction focused, and free of stupid Alien Gen monstrosities, and now you've gone and given in to the bloody Starbase UGC people.
Summary : Terrible decision opening up the alien gen, and making it non hybrid. Your previous course of action on this matter was far more appealing.
Also why a Starfleet/KDF Borg Boff and not a Romulan/Reman Borg Boff?
Those would be my nit-picks but I am still really anticipating this expansion.
However, looking at traits, I personally think Hybrid and Aliengen should be separate categories. I have an idea for what Hybrids could be and why they might be more desirable than aliens.
I don't know about the rest of you, but not having things like the Veteran ship ready for launch for the first ever expasion pack that STO has, and other things added later seems like bad planning, and also lack of overall quality of the expansion.
Now don't get me wrong, LOR is amazing speaking as a tester, but that we continually, not only with LOR, but other patches/updates/seasons have to wait for things to be implemented at a later date is a tad of a let down, and makes it feel a bit lackluster imho atleast.
I suspect this is because they planned to have Romulans fly KDF/Fed ships. Rolling back that decision based on input means they now have to design a Romulan Vet ship when they would have had Romulans just fly the Fed/KDF Vet ships before.
Well, that is just poor planning if that's true. Why would they not give the Romulans their own unique looking Vet ship and plan this from the get go??
As the saying goes: Proper planning prevents pi.. poor performance.
So some one got a tad lazy in the planning stages it would seem, but then again, we won't know for sure what the thought process was. But not having a unique looking Romulan vet ship, just seems like some one thought that we would be happy flying the existing Vet ships...
Consider this. No Captains Yacht = no reward for an exclusive Romulan player.
So what you're saying is, waste of a vet reward because I bought the legacy pack?
And this is my biggest annoyance of all. The 1000-day ship not being available at launch is fine because you shouldn't need a end game ship at launch. The material and all the costume pieces you can use from the very start and not having them bothers me.
And now two-questions:
1. Is the Liberated Romulan species at least going to be available at launch?
2. Why was it decided that all of the costumes and ship material can wait until after launch? Like I said before, this bothers me.
I think we can lay the blame solely at the feet of that "Hav" guy from the Starbase UGC podcast. Cryptic had it right the first time around - the Romulan storyline shouldn't allow non-Romulans or Remans.
As one that doesn't listen or watch or whatever podcasts (I catch one once in a blue moon), what happened?
Well I have to admit, that is rather dissapointing. I was really looking forward to your inital decision to reduce the number of 'alien' chars. in the Romulan Republic and even them to be restricted to hybrids. It kinda' made sense for the story you're trying to tell and it would do wonders to preserve the ambience of a Romulan faction.
The way I see it now, it's just another mega mix like Starfleet. It actually makes me want to play that faction less.
Meh, well now at least hurry up and open up the Joined Trill option for the Romulan faction for the people that were asking for it on the forums. The argument of the Romulans being kinda' xenophobic and not allowing Trill in the Republic falls apart when, as some players have mentioned before, there will be Batman and Spiderman joining the Romulans. :P
Listen to the PodcastUGC... he goes on for 80 odd minutes about the Romulan alien generator.
Federation or Klingon Liberated Borg Bridge Officer
Type 8 Shuttle Pet
Original Series U.S.S Enterprise Starter Ship
Rivera Tribble or Pet Targ Pup
"
The Liberated Borg Officer should be the one in the Legacy Pack, not a FED or KDF specific BOff. being able to buy the C-Store Reman BOff and claiming the Amazon BOff and getting the Kithomer Accord Accolade Borg Boff... so Romulans can have 3 Borg BOffs AND a liberated Borg Captain while Fed + KDF are limited to 2 Borg BOffs? ...not sure if that is good.
Type 8 Shuttle Pet ? for Romulans? *shrug* i hate those non-combat Pets anyway, waste of inventory space and nothing else.
Original Series U.S.S Enterprise Starter Ship <- this is really REALLY useless after level 10, and what would i want with a Fed Ship if i go KDF anyway?
Blue TOS Phasers on a Warbird?... mmmh yah i think you may want to rethink that one.
Rivera Tribble or Pet Targ Pup <- meh... how about a special Combat Eppoh instead?
...oh and that Captains Table don't need to say anything about that one, right?
Interesting what a one-man-****storm can achieve these days.
So the green side will get its share of silly-looking alien characters, too. Bummer. Words cannot express how dissappointed I am.
Hence why I don't watch or listen to podcasts about games. I don't have 80 minutes to listen to some game rage because he can't have something.
I am a LTS and I bought the legacy pack.
I can play as a liberated borg.
I can play as a reman.
I cannot play as a liberated borg reman?
Thanks