If we're getting rid of repulsors can we also get rid of cannon scatter volley while we're at it?
I'm getting tired of CSV messing up so many different encounters, like attracting the attention of the tactical cube, or just any cube or sphere, when really the single target rapid fire would keep everything so much smoother.
Too many people relying on pew pew pew and not enough on tactics, so if we're going to start taking away abilities that have tactical advantages, let's keep this trend going and take the AoE spammfest out of the equation too.
I'd give up the DPS advantage and welcome the challenge of having to utilize more teamwork! What say the rest of you?
Gods no, you people are terrible. I don't want have to rely on you.;)
I remember in all the Star trek series and movies the captains calling out for 4 more ships to help them.......
Oh Wait......
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,449Community Moderator
edited April 2013
And there is the main problem in most PUG STFs. No one communicates. When someone actually does communicate in a PUG... makes me feel better knowing at least one other person doesn't play the game with the chat window minimized.
We've all had bad PUGs.
May not have been an STF, but I ran Mirror one time and it was a full Escort group. Shredded the Stadi like she was made of paper.
The community should not be punished for certain individuals using abilities at the wrong time or being Trolls. I use Repulsors on my Luna Class. It has its uses. Its knowing when to use it, and the positioning, that is key to Repulsors. In Kitomer Space... if the Probes are getting close to the portal, I will hit my Evasive, get in FRONT of the probes, and unleash Repulsors to push them away and buy time. And before they changed the Scimitar AI, Tractor Repulsors were one of the ways ships could try and track Donatra while cloaked.
People wanna be idiots... there really isn't much we can do about it. Welcome to the Internet. Don't feed the Trolls. :cool:
You know, I'm glad somebody brought this up. It annoys me to no end when, after I shoot down the first nanite generator, some idiot in an escort shoots down the spheres with CSV and TS while I'm trying to push them back through the gateway.
It's such a waste to throw away all those cooldowns and DPS when you could be attacking the cube instead.
Somebody getting uppity about canon? No problem! Just take a deep breath, and repeat after me:
Try for yourself .
I am in 3 such channels , and 98% of the time it's smooth sailing , with a bit of minimal interaction (aka just the opposite of cliques) .
Plus the seeming fact that you worry about cliques make me think that high school may not be such a distant memory for you .
I did. I joined one of the STF channels, read the "rules" on the forums, and watched the etiquette. When I was ready, I sent out a message something to the effect of "Forming ISE, password: optional". I was immediately told by 4 people that I was an idiot and doing it wrong. When someone finally deigned to "show me the right way to form a group", they typed an almost identical message: "ISE, 4 slots, awesome for invite". Rather than get all the hate and belittling for trying to form a group, people could have instead just asked for an invite or ignored my group advertisement.
This is the same experience I keep hearing from people - you don't do things TO THE LETTER, and you're ostracized for it.
That's not even counting all the regular drama that gets dragged here to the forums, resulting in, last time I checked, at least 4 different STF channels all competing for members. Extra little rules get added and removed all the time, someone who doesn't know how to be responsible is somehow a channel administrator and kicks a bunch of people they don't like out of the channel, and they form up a new channel. Rinse, repeat.
I called them "cliques" because that's exactly how they behave and operate. I'm an adult, and I did everything I was "required" to do in order to participate in all the "goodness" of the STF channels, but because I didn't follow some undefined "style" or "attitude" (which ultimately is pointless anyway), I was openly mocked for it.
The STF channels need to grow up, or they need to go away.
They just need a proper tractor beam with repel and hold.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,449Community Moderator
edited April 2013
Technically... I believe having both Tractor Beam and Tractor Repulsor would translate to that. Because if we had one ability that does both... how are you going to switch modes? One button to activate, another to toggle. Looks the same as having both abilities already.
A "weapons platform" has a negative Defense Bonus while sitting still.
Why would it sit still, even when using the 'weapons platform' approach?
An escort sitting still has no defense bonus.
A 'strafing' escort is wasting tons of uptime on buffs by being out of optimal range or pointed the wrong way.
If only there were a happy medium!
There is.
Park your ship 1-3km from whatever you're killing. Vary your throttle between full impulse and full reverse. Stay not more than 5km from the target. Use evasive, distribute shields to rear, and all power to engines to escape if it gets hairy. (You should have a keybind to do just this.) You do optimal DPS, stay on target more, and don't waste your buffs flying around in circles. It works real good.
It works even better if you learn the abundant torpedo blindspots on tac cubes and borg structures, and stay within them as much as possible. This is how you do max DPS, and still retain a defense bonus. Not pirouetting around like a ballerina, nibbling them to death with your turrets.
All ships have a variable Bonus Defense based on the speed they are moving at in combat.
A slow moving Cruiser has a lower BD just as a slowing moving Escort does.
A faster moving Cruiser has a higher BD just as a faster moving Escort does.
I called them "cliques" because that's exactly how they behave and operate. I'm an adult, and I did everything I was "required" to do in order to participate in all the "goodness" of the STF channels, but because I didn't follow some undefined "style" or "attitude" (which ultimately is pointless anyway), I was openly mocked for it.
I only frequent one channel. It's a public channel and has hundreds of players subscribed. As in any group, you are going to have a variety of personalities. Some may be overly elitist, but most are quite chill and have no problem welcoming new people to the channel.
When I joined a few months back, I stumbled in like a noob, not having read anything posted about the channel and asked some noob questions. A couple of friendly folk brought me up to speed and in short order, I was hosting games and having a great time.
Yes, I still see some people that need to grow up a bit, but who cares about them? Mostly what I see is matches being formed, games being played and many displays of GG.
If I read the OP correctly, the OP wentAFKduringamission to post his/her comment about people wrecking an STF? And these comments are entirely negative in tone about someone else doing something wrong?
Hmmm... something don't look right here, don'cha think?
I have TBRs mounted on one of my Fed ships. Took me a long time to figure out how to use them during Khitomer. Heck, took me a long time to learn to use them effectively at all. Because I was a newbie STO player at the time. Amazing how little tolerance others have for people who may be making an honest error or a rookie mistake. Far easier to throw a public hissy fit here than to attempt to explain to someone what they're doing is incorrect. Requires far less effort. Makes some people feel empowered. Especially with all the sycophants whom are just waiting for something to dogpile on.
Believe it or not, most people do not look for new and better ways to ruin this game for others. And we should remember STO is a game. Not a lifestyle choice. If someone has made me so angry by their behavior or lack of manners ingame, I can always turn the damned thing off and go do something else. But then again, this is the InterWebs. So people can go AFK during an STF to complain about someone else's 'bad' behavior with absolutely zero consequences. Just sayin'.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
If I read the OP correctly, the OP wentAFKduringamission to post his/her comment about people wrecking an STF? And these comments are entirely negative in tone about someone else doing something wrong?
Hmmm... something don't look right here, don'cha think?
I have TBRs mounted on one of my Fed ships. Took me a long time to figure out how to use them during Khitomer. Heck, took me a long time to learn to use them effectively at all. Because I was a newbie STO player at the time. Amazing how little tolerance others have for people who may be making an honest error or a rookie mistake. Far easier to throw a public hissy fit here than to attempt to explain to someone what they're doing is incorrect. Requires far less effort. Makes some people feel empowered. Especially with all the sycophants whom are just waiting for something to dogpile on.
Believe it or not, most people do not look for new and better ways to ruin this game for others. And we should remember STO is a game. Not a lifestyle choice. If someone has made me so angry by their behavior or lack of manners ingame, I can always turn the damned thing off and go do something else. But then again, this is the InterWebs. So people can go AFK during an STF to complain about someone else's 'bad' behavior with absolutely zero consequences. Just sayin'.
I concur, there are lots of good uses for TBR. Using Donatra for a hockeypuck, might not be the best one, but... it's no cause for nerdrage. Just work with it. follow Donatra and smash the heck out of her.....
EDIT: one thing I've noticed recently is that Tholian NPCs seem to have a point target TBR... not sure if it'd be more useful than Mask Energy signature though...
She stealths regularly, and TBR can be used to troll either by knocking her out of weapons range or knocking her into stealth range.
I don't understand why people would bother defending an ability that draws more trolls than genuine players, when there are viable alternatives that aren't as troll friendly.
I've only ever seen it used incorrectly at best, and the majority of the time I've seen it it's being used to troll. It's a net negative for the game.
What they could do is slap on a huge threat bonus to it, so that the person using TBR gets targeted by everything on the map and nuked to death again and again and again.
Amazing how little tolerance others have for people who may be making an honest error or a rookie mistake. Far easier to throw a public hissy fit here than to attempt to explain to someone what they're doing is incorrect.
Most people, at best, ignore you. At worst, they take advice as an insult and start raging. And sometimes, Mommy or Daddy finally sit at the computer and start telling you how you psychologically scarred their six year old, who shouldn't even be playing the game in the first place, by telling the child they were doing it wrong.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
Why would it sit still, even when using the 'weapons platform' approach?
An escort sitting still has no defense bonus.
A 'strafing' escort is wasting tons of uptime on buffs by being out of optimal range or pointed the wrong way.
If only there were a happy medium!
There is.
Park your ship 1-3km from whatever you're killing. Vary your throttle between full impulse and full reverse. Stay not more than 5km from the target. Use evasive, distribute shields to rear, and all power to engines to escape if it gets hairy. (You should have a keybind to do just this.) You do optimal DPS, stay on target more, and don't waste your buffs flying around in circles. It works real good.
It works even better if you learn the abundant torpedo blindspots on tac cubes and borg structures, and stay within them as much as possible. This is how you do max DPS, and still retain a defense bonus. Not pirouetting around like a ballerina, nibbling them to death with your turrets.
Unless you go beyond 10km you will not break aggro lock and a Tac Cube or Gate will one shot invisa torp you regardless of what ever acrobatics you may be performing.
It's just easier to strafe run and all my powers line up perfectly for the strafe and Plasma Torp spewing retreat.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,449Community Moderator
edited April 2013
Oh I've held Aggro on things past 10k before. I've kited a Tac Cube in ISE one time because everyone decided the non mobile gate was more of a threat then the mobile Tac Cube. And I was flying an escort that wasn't set up to attract aggro. I just happened to be the closest thing to it that had shot it. Everyone else was on the opposite side of the gate.
And where did the myth that a second Tac Cube will spawn if the first is destroyed before the gate come from? Ran into someone in a PUG group that honestly believed that.
And Tac Cubes have Torp Blind Spots? Do tell! I'm all ears, and I ain't even a Ferengi. XP
Just replace repulsive with gravity well, I love grav well, I use it often, heck when the timer is running low I'll pull out EVERYTHING I have that does damage! I have yet to have repulsive equipped and probably never will, when getting after probe's that slip past hit em with grave well and they all group together then fire everything at the group, day has been saved.;)
I'll even use grave well on the gates even though they are stationary if probes come out they are still hampered by the well and it does damage to the gate, just making the teams job go just a tiny bit faster, or those tact cubes that just sit there grav well em too, does damage, I am unsure if it slows them from turning shield face or not, if it does, yay!
Anyways the point I'm trying to make is if you find yourself making your team mad with your repulsive perhaps your should equip grav well instead...it might make people happier with your performance.
No.... he whined about how he went AFK in protest instead of trying to fight.....
I'm kinda curious how far you can push someone with TBR anyways..... I've done some testing and it never actually moved anythign all that far, I may not have been specced though, not quite sure there.
Oh I've held Aggro on things past 10k before. I've kited a Tac Cube in ISE one time because everyone decided the non mobile gate was more of a threat then the mobile Tac Cube. And I was flying an escort that wasn't set up to attract aggro. I just happened to be the closest thing to it that had shot it. Everyone else was on the opposite side of the gate.
And where did the myth that a second Tac Cube will spawn if the first is destroyed before the gate come from? Ran into someone in a PUG group that honestly believed that.
And Tac Cubes have Torp Blind Spots? Do tell! I'm all ears, and I ain't even a Ferengi. XP
USED TO.... At one point in time, if you were directly above or below a cube it couldn't fire torps at you. It's the same torp blind spot players would have if they didn't angle up, but Cubes never angle up. They just turn to face you. Apparently they use a 360 torp now.
Yeah I used to sit right under the cubes and attack from below like an angry wedgie...Should have seen the look on my face when I got 1,2,3 hit from the cube! i was all wtf? NNNoooOOoooOOooOoooooooooooo!!!!
Worse yet was a player warned me not to do it, I'm all "No problem I done it a million times!"
The came the 1,2,3 BOOM I dead..."toldja so":rolleyes:
Most people, at best, ignore you. At worst, they take advice as an insult and start raging.
To be quite frank, I've seen more ESTF's go awry in my relatively short time running them thus far due to nerd raging in its myriad of forms than I have simple, honest mistakes. You can cover for someone who's putting forth an actual effort and just happens to goof up in the course of playing. You can't cover for someone who, for another player's mistakes, stops playing completely to spew bile the remainder of the run.
Case in point, an ISE run tonight. A player accidentally blew a generator early, and somebody decided to start nerd raging over it. Had this player, instead of nerd raging simply used EWP (he had it, as I'd seen him use it prior in the match) in the spheres' path, we wouldn't have had problem one. It particularly irritated me, since he was also raging at me for having the temerity to knockback and slow spheres to keep them away from the transformer and buy time to take it down.
Somebody getting uppity about canon? No problem! Just take a deep breath, and repeat after me:
To be quite frank, I've seen more ESTF's go awry in my relatively short time running them thus far due to nerd raging in its myriad of forms than I have simple, honest mistakes. You can cover for someone who's putting forth an actual effort and just happens to goof up in the course of playing. You can't cover for someone who, for another player's mistakes, stops playing completely to spew bile the remainder of the run.
Case in point, an ISE run tonight. A player accidentally blew a generator early, and somebody decided to start nerd raging over it. Had this player, instead of nerd raging simply used EWP (he had it, as I'd seen him use it prior in the match) in the spheres' path, we wouldn't have had problem one. It particularly irritated me, since he was also raging at me for having the temerity to knockback and slow spheres to keep them away from the transformer and buy time to take it down.
Yeah, that sort of player kinda sucks. I mean seriously.... Yesterday I did ISN with a team that included an NX and a Constitution, along with 2 Excels and me in a D'Kyr. We got optional with time to spare even with me doing unholy things to the local gravitational fields.
Actually, I swapped Sci Boffs for this because the person who set it up recommended it.
To be quite frank, I've seen more ESTF's go awry in my relatively short time running them thus far due to nerd raging in its myriad of forms than I have simple, honest mistakes. You can cover for someone who's putting forth an actual effort and just happens to goof up in the course of playing. You can't cover for someone who, for another player's mistakes, stops playing completely to spew bile the remainder of the run.
That was not the case here. Go back and read the OP. He spent 40 MINUTES fighting Donatra before giving up to complain. That fight shouldn't last more than 15 minutes for even a mediocre group. The guy with TBR was deliberately messing up the run, since 40 minutes is MORE than enough time to realize a mistake and discover that repulsing her doesn't help one bit.
Ah "the holy trinty" which has lost so many STF's
no one tanks
I resent that, I tank on my Cruiser and tend to hold all targets, 2 +th consoles and full threat control, and I hold my own so escorts can go crazy without fear.
Dear OP
I'm so sorry to hear your outrage about abilities and the terrible experience in the STF.
Please understand Cryptic has provided a solution for your situation my friend.
That answer is to grow your fleet, use voice chat or join a fleet that is bigger and does.
I help run two very active 500 member fleet that gives us plenty of people for private STFs. Please understand part of the mechanics Cryptic gave us is Fleets.
Voice chat(Team Speak)in a fleet helped us increase everyone's DPS by 25%, get optionals.
We even have a team that helps others get the ground optionals.
Even though the answer is there and people know about it.
I see so many people upset who just don't use Fleets and voice chat for what they are.
They are tools for success, so don't ignore this option because others will not be kind to you.
I'm in a fleet, have been in the same fleet for 3 years, no intention of leaving, and when my fleet mates are on we run together, its when they arn't on these issues arise.
Something has to be done, we had a moron in our STF that waited for everyone to get lined up then he would get right under donatra and hit his repulsors for the lolz, it turned it from a 5 minute fight tops to a 40 minute snooze fest that is still going on, I am simply refusing to participate anymore in this fight. Something has to be done about this blatant abuse of abilities, seriously either remove them or make it so players can't use them in certain group content like STF's it sucks that this is an issue because they have there uses, but they are abused way to much, and it punishes the entire community.
Something must be done to morons... that post thing like this.
Keybind: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=9355971&postcount=463
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
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Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
you know how in stfs you have massive structures that you cant repel...and whats this TBR has a kinetic damage component?! 1000ish a second for 10 seconds? Hmm...wonder what i should do with that?
Something must be done to morons... that post thing like this.
no if you took the time to read this thread you'd understand its used for trolling the majority of the time. As for the comment about me writing this while in an STF yea I did, after being the only one doing any damage to it, I got her down to 4% and her port shields down, and moron pushed her away again, then she cloaked, I got tired of it and made this post, came back in she had more hitpoints and full shields again, the other 4 wern't actully even scratching the hull, after I made this post I flew to her, alpha striked and got my omega marks. But this experince really soured me on TBR. I don't mind a group that can't DPS there way out of a soap bubble, I can carry them, I do mind when some moron decides to troll.
I resent that, I tank on my Cruiser and tend to hold all targets, 2 +th consoles and full threat control, and I hold my own so escorts can go crazy without fear.
Hold on a tick.
no if you took the time to read this thread you'd understand its used for trolling the majority of the time. As for the comment about me writing this while in an STF yea I did, after being the only one doing any damage to it, I got her down to 4% and her port shields down, and moron pushed her away again, then she cloaked, I got tired of it and made this post, came back in she had more hitpoints and full shields again, the other 4 wern't actully even scratching the hull, after I made this post I flew to her, alpha striked and got my omega marks. But this experince really soured me on TBR. I don't mind a group that can't DPS there way out of a soap bubble, I can carry them, I do mind when some moron decides to troll.
If someone were going to troll with TBR, considering her previous behavior one would think they'd repulse Donatra towards you, don't you think?
I'd lay dollars to donuts what's really going on, is you're trying to "tank" her as closely to 5km as you can, which would put her one lag spike, or a rogue knockback torpedo or power, away from cloaking anyways. Before her behavior change (intended or not), the cloak was dependent upon her proximity to her target -- which would be, if you're a tenth as good as you claim to be, you.
Somebody getting uppity about canon? No problem! Just take a deep breath, and repeat after me:
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Gods no, you people are terrible. I don't want have to rely on you.;)
I'm only halfway kidding though.
Oh Wait......
We've all had bad PUGs.
May not have been an STF, but I ran Mirror one time and it was a full Escort group. Shredded the Stadi like she was made of paper.
The community should not be punished for certain individuals using abilities at the wrong time or being Trolls. I use Repulsors on my Luna Class. It has its uses. Its knowing when to use it, and the positioning, that is key to Repulsors. In Kitomer Space... if the Probes are getting close to the portal, I will hit my Evasive, get in FRONT of the probes, and unleash Repulsors to push them away and buy time. And before they changed the Scimitar AI, Tractor Repulsors were one of the ways ships could try and track Donatra while cloaked.
People wanna be idiots... there really isn't much we can do about it. Welcome to the Internet. Don't feed the Trolls. :cool:
It's such a waste to throw away all those cooldowns and DPS when you could be attacking the cube instead.
Spock's Brain.
I did. I joined one of the STF channels, read the "rules" on the forums, and watched the etiquette. When I was ready, I sent out a message something to the effect of "Forming ISE, password: optional". I was immediately told by 4 people that I was an idiot and doing it wrong. When someone finally deigned to "show me the right way to form a group", they typed an almost identical message: "ISE, 4 slots, awesome for invite". Rather than get all the hate and belittling for trying to form a group, people could have instead just asked for an invite or ignored my group advertisement.
This is the same experience I keep hearing from people - you don't do things TO THE LETTER, and you're ostracized for it.
That's not even counting all the regular drama that gets dragged here to the forums, resulting in, last time I checked, at least 4 different STF channels all competing for members. Extra little rules get added and removed all the time, someone who doesn't know how to be responsible is somehow a channel administrator and kicks a bunch of people they don't like out of the channel, and they form up a new channel. Rinse, repeat.
I called them "cliques" because that's exactly how they behave and operate. I'm an adult, and I did everything I was "required" to do in order to participate in all the "goodness" of the STF channels, but because I didn't follow some undefined "style" or "attitude" (which ultimately is pointless anyway), I was openly mocked for it.
The STF channels need to grow up, or they need to go away.
USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
Star Trek Gamers
Why would it sit still, even when using the 'weapons platform' approach?
An escort sitting still has no defense bonus.
A 'strafing' escort is wasting tons of uptime on buffs by being out of optimal range or pointed the wrong way.
If only there were a happy medium!
There is.
Park your ship 1-3km from whatever you're killing. Vary your throttle between full impulse and full reverse. Stay not more than 5km from the target. Use evasive, distribute shields to rear, and all power to engines to escape if it gets hairy. (You should have a keybind to do just this.) You do optimal DPS, stay on target more, and don't waste your buffs flying around in circles. It works real good.
It works even better if you learn the abundant torpedo blindspots on tac cubes and borg structures, and stay within them as much as possible. This is how you do max DPS, and still retain a defense bonus. Not pirouetting around like a ballerina, nibbling them to death with your turrets.
A slow moving Cruiser has a lower BD just as a slowing moving Escort does.
A faster moving Cruiser has a higher BD just as a faster moving Escort does.
R.I.P
Which is still far more often than you will see a time when it is 1) needed and 2) used correctly.
I only frequent one channel. It's a public channel and has hundreds of players subscribed. As in any group, you are going to have a variety of personalities. Some may be overly elitist, but most are quite chill and have no problem welcoming new people to the channel.
When I joined a few months back, I stumbled in like a noob, not having read anything posted about the channel and asked some noob questions. A couple of friendly folk brought me up to speed and in short order, I was hosting games and having a great time.
Yes, I still see some people that need to grow up a bit, but who cares about them? Mostly what I see is matches being formed, games being played and many displays of GG.
Hmmm... something don't look right here, don'cha think?
I have TBRs mounted on one of my Fed ships. Took me a long time to figure out how to use them during Khitomer. Heck, took me a long time to learn to use them effectively at all. Because I was a newbie STO player at the time. Amazing how little tolerance others have for people who may be making an honest error or a rookie mistake. Far easier to throw a public hissy fit here than to attempt to explain to someone what they're doing is incorrect. Requires far less effort. Makes some people feel empowered. Especially with all the sycophants whom are just waiting for something to dogpile on.
Believe it or not, most people do not look for new and better ways to ruin this game for others. And we should remember STO is a game. Not a lifestyle choice. If someone has made me so angry by their behavior or lack of manners ingame, I can always turn the damned thing off and go do something else. But then again, this is the InterWebs. So people can go AFK during an STF to complain about someone else's 'bad' behavior with absolutely zero consequences. Just sayin'.
EDIT: one thing I've noticed recently is that Tholian NPCs seem to have a point target TBR... not sure if it'd be more useful than Mask Energy signature though...
My character Tsin'xing
She stealths regularly, and TBR can be used to troll either by knocking her out of weapons range or knocking her into stealth range.
I don't understand why people would bother defending an ability that draws more trolls than genuine players, when there are viable alternatives that aren't as troll friendly.
I've only ever seen it used incorrectly at best, and the majority of the time I've seen it it's being used to troll. It's a net negative for the game.
What they could do is slap on a huge threat bonus to it, so that the person using TBR gets targeted by everything on the map and nuked to death again and again and again.
Most people, at best, ignore you. At worst, they take advice as an insult and start raging. And sometimes, Mommy or Daddy finally sit at the computer and start telling you how you psychologically scarred their six year old, who shouldn't even be playing the game in the first place, by telling the child they were doing it wrong.
Unless you go beyond 10km you will not break aggro lock and a Tac Cube or Gate will one shot invisa torp you regardless of what ever acrobatics you may be performing.
It's just easier to strafe run and all my powers line up perfectly for the strafe and Plasma Torp spewing retreat.
And where did the myth that a second Tac Cube will spawn if the first is destroyed before the gate come from? Ran into someone in a PUG group that honestly believed that.
And Tac Cubes have Torp Blind Spots? Do tell! I'm all ears, and I ain't even a Ferengi. XP
I'll even use grave well on the gates even though they are stationary if probes come out they are still hampered by the well and it does damage to the gate, just making the teams job go just a tiny bit faster, or those tact cubes that just sit there grav well em too, does damage, I am unsure if it slows them from turning shield face or not, if it does, yay!
Anyways the point I'm trying to make is if you find yourself making your team mad with your repulsive perhaps your should equip grav well instead...it might make people happier with your performance.
I'm kinda curious how far you can push someone with TBR anyways..... I've done some testing and it never actually moved anythign all that far, I may not have been specced though, not quite sure there.
My character Tsin'xing
My character Tsin'xing
Worse yet was a player warned me not to do it, I'm all "No problem I done it a million times!"
The came the 1,2,3 BOOM I dead..."toldja so":rolleyes:
To be quite frank, I've seen more ESTF's go awry in my relatively short time running them thus far due to nerd raging in its myriad of forms than I have simple, honest mistakes. You can cover for someone who's putting forth an actual effort and just happens to goof up in the course of playing. You can't cover for someone who, for another player's mistakes, stops playing completely to spew bile the remainder of the run.
Case in point, an ISE run tonight. A player accidentally blew a generator early, and somebody decided to start nerd raging over it. Had this player, instead of nerd raging simply used EWP (he had it, as I'd seen him use it prior in the match) in the spheres' path, we wouldn't have had problem one. It particularly irritated me, since he was also raging at me for having the temerity to knockback and slow spheres to keep them away from the transformer and buy time to take it down.
Spock's Brain.
Actually, I swapped Sci Boffs for this because the person who set it up recommended it.
My character Tsin'xing
That was not the case here. Go back and read the OP. He spent 40 MINUTES fighting Donatra before giving up to complain. That fight shouldn't last more than 15 minutes for even a mediocre group. The guy with TBR was deliberately messing up the run, since 40 minutes is MORE than enough time to realize a mistake and discover that repulsing her doesn't help one bit.
I resent that, I tank on my Cruiser and tend to hold all targets, 2 +th consoles and full threat control, and I hold my own so escorts can go crazy without fear.
I'm in a fleet, have been in the same fleet for 3 years, no intention of leaving, and when my fleet mates are on we run together, its when they arn't on these issues arise.
Something must be done to morons... that post thing like this.
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
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trolls suck, tbr has uses
/ignore trolls, use tbr responsibly.
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no if you took the time to read this thread you'd understand its used for trolling the majority of the time. As for the comment about me writing this while in an STF yea I did, after being the only one doing any damage to it, I got her down to 4% and her port shields down, and moron pushed her away again, then she cloaked, I got tired of it and made this post, came back in she had more hitpoints and full shields again, the other 4 wern't actully even scratching the hull, after I made this post I flew to her, alpha striked and got my omega marks. But this experince really soured me on TBR. I don't mind a group that can't DPS there way out of a soap bubble, I can carry them, I do mind when some moron decides to troll.
Hold on a tick.
If someone were going to troll with TBR, considering her previous behavior one would think they'd repulse Donatra towards you, don't you think?
I'd lay dollars to donuts what's really going on, is you're trying to "tank" her as closely to 5km as you can, which would put her one lag spike, or a rogue knockback torpedo or power, away from cloaking anyways. Before her behavior change (intended or not), the cloak was dependent upon her proximity to her target -- which would be, if you're a tenth as good as you claim to be, you.
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