we need this now.. not after season 8..
Race is one of, if not the BIGGEST personlization in any mmo that can make or break people people continuing to play
Especially after so many paid races have been brought in, and people buyin the LTS for the borg
this isnt a small thing that cryp should ignore this is a BIG issue, and one thats going to Bite them big time when the realize just how much money they can make from this feature..
why do you think blizzard put this in and charges $25 a pop, i have asked on the fourm over there and there a people thats have spent hundreds of dollars on race/charcter changes
now times that by thousands of players, ok so most players might do it once ever.. how many players play STO?, x $15 each ?
our system isnt built to do this stink's of "simcity only works online-itis!"
I've heard from someone with some know that the reason such has not been done is that the thinking is people will spend more money to make a totally new character as opposed to however much they might spend to buy a re-race token.
But this is a false equivalency.
Someone who isn't enjoying things because of their race and/or career is not going to be keen on creating a whole new character and spending the time re-leveling and re-acquiring and re-reputation leveling. They're going to walk away from the game, frustrated.
Someone who can just change such at a whim though... they're going to happily fork over the Z to do so. And even more so, indecisive people or those who like to change things up often will fork such over again and again.
Those same folks would also likely spend money to get a re-name and/or re-train token WHILE doing their re-race and re-career...
Everybody needs to tell your friends + fleets to come to this topic and reply if they'd buy such a re-race thing. Enough people say they'll buy such, we'll see it before long. Guaranteed.
I've heard from someone with some know that the reason such has not been done is that the thinking is people will spend more money to make a totally new character as opposed to however much they might spend to buy a re-race token.
But this is a false equivalency.
This is true.
I'm not going to restart my toon just for one trait, especially since, with things like FE limits, it will probably take 6 months to a year to get everything I had on one on the other. And some other things (e.g. the IDIC Tribble) I will probably NEVER be able to get again on a new toon. Never mind the rep grind.
That said, it's entirely possible that this is not Cryptic's internal thinking. It doesn't sound like the kind of thing they'd talk about in public all that much.
I just want a re-trait on one of my captains. That's all I want. But I'll jump on the bandwagon for 're-race/re-gender' too if that's what it takes.
Mind you, aren't all captains getting a retrait/respec? Considering the new trait system being put in?
There probably won't be a 're-faction' though, unless you stripped the character of anything 'faction specific' and hope that something stripped didn't show up in a lockbox later...
LoR is supposed to be bringing this in. You can choose new traits on Tribble already, you end up with something like 8+ traits now. Current required traits are even being merged into one, as stated in a recent Dev blog and seen on Tribble.
I really want a re-racial and re-class token. Quite a few of my KDF characters I want to switch around and change.
If they did bring this in, they could even do a bundle with a re-racial, re-class, re-skill (for silvers, golds have a truck load, but one more won't hurt if you save a little in the long run) and re-trait.
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While I probably wouldn't use it, I think it should be an option. Actually, if (when) they make a fourth faction (Cardassian), I'll want to change my KDF Alien "Cardassian" into something else.
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
Race change would be good no doubt and I would be in support of it, but at this point I would really really love a Class change token.
I regret picking Sci for my main the way things have played out since launch and would change to a Tac in a heartbeat if I could.
Too many character bound items are tied to my Sci and there is no way I'm going to spend all the time/money I have invested duplicating them on another character. If we got a class change token it would make my year.
Q: (akpa) Will we see race and gender change token in C-Store with this expansion?
STO Team: We don?t have any plans at this time to implement a race or gender change token, but it?s not entirely out of the question. You won?t see it with the launch of Legacy of Romulus, though.
Q: (akpa) Will we see race and gender change token in C-Store with this expansion?
STO Team: We don?t have any plans at this time to implement a race or gender change token, but it?s not entirely out of the question. You won?t see it with the launch of Legacy of Romulus, though.
I too am in favor of this. Granted I'd only really use it if they made it possible for us to play as Romulans on the Fed/KDF side as an expansion of Legacy of Romulus so I can make the character into my signature into a real Romulan
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
Race change would be good no doubt and I would be in support of it, but at this point I would really really love a Class change token.
I regret picking Sci for my main the way things have played out since launch and would change to a Tac in a heartbeat if I could.
Too many character bound items are tied to my Sci and there is no way I'm going to spend all the time/money I have invested duplicating them on another character. If we got a class change token it would make my year.
I also think a career change token would be p great, not because I dislike my career choices though it's just that I'd like to make a character of each race eventually and I don't want to have to make multiple of the same race for each career. And you technically can't have that many character slots anyway. Plus there is in-show precedent for career changes both Worf and Sulu changed their specialties.
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I would buy a re-race token.
But i would also buy some career respec token.
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I can tell you quite honestly that our Species data is not currently set up in a way that would allow this to happen.
Not to say that couldn't be changed some day... but doing so would be a monumental undertaking, in order to alter the definitions for every single playable Species in the game, and their associated Costume allowances.
+1 here! I Made a trill character and was pretty far I to the game when I found out that was different then a joined trill. Let my character get a symbiote!
+1 here! I Made a trill character and was pretty far I to the game when I found out that was different then a joined trill. Let my character get a symbiote!
Nice necropost from a 2013 thread, some added irony that the last reply had asked for old threads not to be revived.
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I also want this
Race is one of, if not the BIGGEST personlization in any mmo that can make or break people people continuing to play
Especially after so many paid races have been brought in, and people buyin the LTS for the borg
this isnt a small thing that cryp should ignore this is a BIG issue, and one thats going to Bite them big time when the realize just how much money they can make from this feature..
why do you think blizzard put this in and charges $25 a pop, i have asked on the fourm over there and there a people thats have spent hundreds of dollars on race/charcter changes
now times that by thousands of players, ok so most players might do it once ever.. how many players play STO?, x $15 each ?
our system isnt built to do this stink's of "simcity only works online-itis!"
But this is a false equivalency.
Someone who isn't enjoying things because of their race and/or career is not going to be keen on creating a whole new character and spending the time re-leveling and re-acquiring and re-reputation leveling. They're going to walk away from the game, frustrated.
Someone who can just change such at a whim though... they're going to happily fork over the Z to do so. And even more so, indecisive people or those who like to change things up often will fork such over again and again.
Those same folks would also likely spend money to get a re-name and/or re-train token WHILE doing their re-race and re-career...
IE: re-race = lots more money.
This is true.
I'm not going to restart my toon just for one trait, especially since, with things like FE limits, it will probably take 6 months to a year to get everything I had on one on the other. And some other things (e.g. the IDIC Tribble) I will probably NEVER be able to get again on a new toon. Never mind the rep grind.
That said, it's entirely possible that this is not Cryptic's internal thinking. It doesn't sound like the kind of thing they'd talk about in public all that much.
Mind you, aren't all captains getting a retrait/respec? Considering the new trait system being put in?
There probably won't be a 're-faction' though, unless you stripped the character of anything 'faction specific' and hope that something stripped didn't show up in a lockbox later...
LoR is supposed to be bringing this in. You can choose new traits on Tribble already, you end up with something like 8+ traits now. Current required traits are even being merged into one, as stated in a recent Dev blog and seen on Tribble.
I really want a re-racial and re-class token. Quite a few of my KDF characters I want to switch around and change.
If they did bring this in, they could even do a bundle with a re-racial, re-class, re-skill (for silvers, golds have a truck load, but one more won't hurt if you save a little in the long run) and re-trait.
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
Idk like regeneration something.. idk my head hurts from waiting.
But yes I have a human char that im stuck with just cause i was new n wanted to just learn the game first...
Least i can respec it...
I'm freaking out the game crashed and I'm on the forums!!! For the love of God!!!
I regret picking Sci for my main the way things have played out since launch and would change to a Tac in a heartbeat if I could.
Too many character bound items are tied to my Sci and there is no way I'm going to spend all the time/money I have invested duplicating them on another character. If we got a class change token it would make my year.
Q: (akpa) Will we see race and gender change token in C-Store with this expansion?
STO Team: We don?t have any plans at this time to implement a race or gender change token, but it?s not entirely out of the question. You won?t see it with the launch of Legacy of Romulus, though.
Not good enough, damnit. Not good enough!
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
I also think a career change token would be p great, not because I dislike my career choices though it's just that I'd like to make a character of each race eventually and I don't want to have to make multiple of the same race for each career. And you technically can't have that many character slots anyway. Plus there is in-show precedent for career changes both Worf and Sulu changed their specialties.
Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades.
But i would also buy some career respec token.
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Doesn't mean they can't change their minds in the future.
I'd love to race change, too.
Nice necropost from a 2013 thread, some added irony that the last reply had asked for old threads not to be revived.