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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2013
    Will we be able to earn the Trophy with this encounter?

    Yes. There are still trophies granted for receiving First, Second and Third place each time you run the encounter.

    To head off further questions, here's some insight into how you are scored during the event:

    You will be scored for each of the following, at various amount of tracked "contribution points":
    * Every point of damage dealt to the Crystalline Entity
    * Every point of healing given to anything on the map
    * Any Tholian ship you help destroy
    * Any Large Crystalline Fragment you help destroy
    * Any Small Crystalline Fragment you help destroy

    We attempted to work in additional scoring mechanisms for "Damage Prevented on Self" as well as something for Controls/Debuffs, but were unable to get them in and tested before the event is scheduled to go live.
    Jeremy Randall
    Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
    "Play smart!"
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Cool. Something new to do! And I have to admit that I like the rewards, even if it's just ore and not refined dil. I think my fleetmates and I will happily run this event at least once a day. :D
    I really like the idea of the event reputation and encourage people to play a given event but not feel restricted to a given hour so I really hope Cryptic expands on this.

    The only question mark I have about the whole thing is the contribution threshold; 14/21 to some might be a bit too much. Perhaps 50% of the event would be better than 66% but that's just me I. Some may not necessarily have premade/private teams to rely upon.

    Don't worry i've been there during the testing phase and this event is extremely easy. Don't trust a dev when he says you'll need tremendous survivability abilities to suceed: read "for the average player", and the average player isn't good, according to my foundry experience.
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  • hatepwehatepwe Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yes. There are still trophies granted for receiving First, Second and Third place each time you run the encounter.

    To head off further questions, here's some insight into how you are scored during the event:

    You will be scored for each of the following, at various amount of tracked "contribution points":
    * Every point of damage dealt to the Crystalline Entity
    * Every point of healing given to anything on the map
    * Any Tholian ship you help destroy
    * Any Large Crystalline Fragment you help destroy
    * Any Small Crystalline Fragment you help destroy

    We attempted to work in additional scoring mechanisms for "Damage Prevented on Self" as well as something for Controls/Debuffs, but were unable to get them in and tested before the event is scheduled to go live.

    Are these back-end scoring changes (the ones going live with the event and the others you mentioned) things we will see pushed to other events/fleet actions?
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yes. There are still trophies granted for receiving First, Second and Third place each time you run the encounter.

    To head off further questions, here's some insight into how you are scored during the event:

    You will be scored for each of the following, at various amount of tracked "contribution points":
    * Every point of damage dealt to the Crystalline Entity
    * Every point of healing given to anything on the map
    * Any Tholian ship you help destroy
    * Any Large Crystalline Fragment you help destroy
    * Any Small Crystalline Fragment you help destroy

    We attempted to work in additional scoring mechanisms for "Damage Prevented on Self" as well as something for Controls/Debuffs, but were unable to get them in and tested before the event is scheduled to go live.


    I think this is a nice change of direction.

    Questions!

    1) Will actual effective healing be taken into consideration or can I spam heal others who are at 98% health but I still get credit for tossing out 15K+ worth of heals even though they were only scratched?


    2) Will there still be a "1st" place mechanic, encouraging self-promoting play or will the final loot bag be based on a "group performance" threshold? i.e. once the "water level" of performance rises above this line, everyone gets a class A reward.
  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2013
    1) Will actual effective healing be taken into consideration or can I spam heal others who are at 98% health but I still get credit for tossing out 15K+ worth of heals even though they were only scratched?

    I don't actually know the answer to this. You're asking whether or not "Overhealing" is scored? I'll try and find out, but I make no promises on being able to find an answer. Folks around here are pretty darn busy with other tasks, as you can imagine.
    2) Will there still be a "1st" place mechanic, encouraging self-promoting play or will the final loot bag be based on a "group performance" threshold? i.e. once the "water level" of performance rises above this line, everyone gets a class A reward.

    It's all individually tracked, not group-wide.
    Jeremy Randall
    Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
    "Play smart!"
  • tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    14 out of 21 days is too much in my opinion, and 14 days makes it feel like a chore.

    You should make the minimum requirement no more than half of the time the event will be active. Say 7 or 10 out of 21. Also perhaps extend the event to a month instead of just 3 weeks.

    Even better would be 2 days per week the event is active, that would let people who can only play on weekends participate.

    Events are supposed to be fun, not another grind.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't actually know the answer to this. You're asking whether or not "Overhealing" is scored? I'll try and find out, but I make no promises on being able to find an answer. Folks around here are pretty darn busy with other tasks, as you can imagine.

    Yes, sorry "overhealing" is a better term than my verbose question was.

    Yes, I imagine they are quite busy and thanks for looking into it.

    It's all individually tracked, not group-wide.

    Well, maybe someday. ;)
  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    i like that the CE looks more like it did in TNG.

    not sure about the Tholians, and it seems there is no real Story behind the Tholians helping it beyond a "oh well they look kinda related somehow... maybe they ARE!?!?!"...

    hmmhmmhmm...


    "Event Reputation" ... sounds like a neat idea to introduce new content like this.


    Rewards... 50k dil... ORE... ... hnnh ...how about REFINED instead?

    It's a one time thing so, would it hurt to give us refined dil for once?
    But well if the reward is, that i don't need to play for the next 6,25 days....
    i don't know how i feel about that.


    And... another PET :rolleyes:

    Hey you little Crytal pet, guchi guchi boobooboo, you want to know how i got you?
    yah good boy you wanna know right... yaaah you dooo... :mad: I KILLED YOUR MOMMY! :eek: ... 14 TIMES!!! :eek:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Events are supposed to be fun, not another grind.

    It's supposed to be fun, not a grind. You may ignore the rewards, they are completely optional. :D

    And i think this is a nice event even if it's not difficult at all, and something people could call "yet another dps race". It has interesting mechanics and there you really need scis.
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    God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Oh yeah I forgot. I like all the pets, I really do. But can we please get the separate pet window/inventory like Champs has finally? It's like, I love the little buggers but man, my bank and inventory, "She cannae take any more!" :P
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  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    We attempted to work in additional scoring mechanisms for "Damage Prevented on Self" as well as something for Controls/Debuffs, but were unable to get them in and tested before the event is scheduled to go live.
    That would be *really* nice if you could get that to work. It would make threat hogging and tanking a viable tactic for trying to get first place in Fleet Actions.
  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So you take the only mission which demand from player to know what and when to do to succeed killing boss, and remake it that anyone can do it by simple shooting as fast as it possible?

    So what's next? "Press-here-to-win" button?
  • phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yes. There are still trophies granted for receiving First, Second and Third place each time you run the encounter.

    To head off further questions, here's some insight into how you are scored during the event:

    You will be scored for each of the following, at various amount of tracked "contribution points":
    * Every point of damage dealt to the Crystalline Entity
    * Every point of healing given to anything on the map
    * Any Tholian ship you help destroy
    * Any Large Crystalline Fragment you help destroy
    * Any Small Crystalline Fragment you help destroy

    We attempted to work in additional scoring mechanisms for "Damage Prevented on Self" as well as something for Controls/Debuffs, but were unable to get them in and tested before the event is scheduled to go live.

    Are the trophies the same as from the previous Crystalline Catastrophe fleet action? And if not, is it now impossible to get the original trophy?
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  • captainmal3captainmal3 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So I derped a little in my last post and somehow thought that tachyon beam and charged particle burst were engineering abilities, making me thing my jemmy heavy escort carrier would be useful again, which apparently it won't afterall. Oh well, gives me an excuse to pick up that fleet advanced escort I've had my eye on.

    zerobang wrote: »
    And... another PET :rolleyes:

    Hey you little Crytal pet, guchi guchi boobooboo, you want to know how i got you?
    yah good boy you wanna know right... yaaah you dooo... :mad: I KILLED YOUR MOMMY! :eek: ... 14 TIMES!!! :eek:

    Hehe, I lol'd.
  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2013
    Are the trophies the same as from the previous Crystalline Catastrophe fleet action? And if not, is it now impossible to get the original trophy?

    Yes, same trophies.

    It's possible that they will get updated in the future, since the visuals no longer match the Entity itself, but we haven't made that update as of yet.

    If we do so, the visuals on all related trophies would be changed/updated.
    Jeremy Randall
    Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
    "Play smart!"
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Is it just trophies for placing, or will rewards also vary in quality depending on place and encourage players to sabotage their 'teammates' ?
  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I still want us to at least attempt communicating, or at least have the good Admiral mention it.
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    yea for that amount of days I'd probally just do it on feds just because I already get enough dilithium with my KDF.
  • arcademasterarcademaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This is exactly the kind of thing that needed to happen to tide us over into the May update. Thanks Cryptic, looking very much forward to it.
  • snakeswar2snakeswar2 Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    no protective ev suit battle inside the entity with tholians?
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    snakeswar2 wrote: »
    no protective ev suit battle inside the entity with tholians?

    It's a space mission. No ground action at all, unless I missed something in the blog.
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  • snakeswar2snakeswar2 Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It's a space mission. No ground action at all, unless I missed something in the blog.

    i am trying to give the devs an idea for a ground version of the event for future referance
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hmmm, will be fun to take out the CE again!
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  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd like to repeat a suggestion that has been brought up before. Can we please change non-combat pets so they don't take up inventory space or at least make a separate inventory tab/storage for them? This would be a nice quality of life feature for players that I believe is long overdue.
  • solonitesolonite Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    When does this go live? Sounds like a great revamp of CE, silly question why is it limited time if the usual CE mechanics don't work very well?
  • tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    It's supposed to be fun, not a grind. You may ignore the rewards, they are completely optional. :D

    And i think this is a nice event even if it's not difficult at all, and something people could call "yet another dps race". It has interesting mechanics and there you really need scis.

    Is it really a good strategy to have an event that you have to grind 14 days or you get nothing? I'd much rather have an event where everyone can participate and get something fun, rather than a limited event that rewards only grinding.
    And if you gather more than 14 Crystal Shards, each additional one can be traded in for another 100 Fleet Marks, using another Event Reputation Project that will become available after the main Project is completed

    I think it's very short-sighted to have an event and only reward a 14-day grind. Even the winter event had items for people who couldn't do the whole grind for the Breen ship.
  • stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    God Dang It! It's just a big snowflake! XD
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  • fleetadmcassityfleetadmcassity Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Excellent!

    I remember the Chaos ... :D

    I am looking forward to the challenges and ... continuing
    CHAOS.
    • The Crystalline Entity with NEW Abilities and Absorption & Burst
    • Continuing Shards & Fragments
    • Tholians
    • Better Rewards ... & Additional Reps

    The formulation of updated Strategies is needed.
    The 2 week period is a good "Live" test ...
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hopefully, I won't get in too much trouble for posting this here after having first commented it on the blog article. It just seems like here I'll have a better chance of getting a possible answer to some of the questions I had...


    I'm among those who enjoy the Reputation System and what you're doing with it - especially the addition of Tholian (finally, Nuke Prime has a purpose for non-fleet players) and Event Reputations. I am, however, somewhat confused by the way you describe the Event Rep.
    1; you say 'Seasonal Projects', does that mean that projects will only be available to be started at certain times of the year and if we miss out on a project, we have to wait until it comes back again, or will these be special projects offered in addition to standard, year-round available projects?
    2; Will each Event be able to have an active project or will we have to pick and choose which Events to focus on?
    3; Will Events include only PvE queues like 'Crystalline Catastrophe', 'Big Dig' and such or will it also include single player events like War Zones, Dil. Mining, 'Emancipation', etc?
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Not thrilled about another event to grind out autographs, I mean 'shards'. But for 50k/1k rewards, I can suck it up. At least we only need to do it 14 times instead of 25 this time. I've not had alot of time to play this semester, so even 14 times might be a bit rough for me. (4 toons = 56 runs, yay.)

    So this means my 4 toons could make me 200k ore? Nice. (Prepare for more threads whining about raising the refining cap.) Though such a big chunk of Dil makes me wonder if the "we're happy with the rate of Dil players are making" is still true? I know my Dil income has suffered alot in S7. Before S7 I'd drop 200k Dil into fleet projects w/o a 2nd thought. Now 1k gives me pause.

    Was surprised that Cryptic was so honest about the sucktasticness of the old encounter. Companies usually sugar coat such things. "Not working as intended" or etc.

    One time on the old one, I entered the encounter when there was 5% left, and before I could even get moving it was back to 54% and half the players warped out in disgust and chat messages voicing their displeasure with whomever screwed up. I never was able to kill that thing. Only kill I ever saw was on Youtube by a kick-a fleet/team who obviously practiced alot together.
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