I think you guys need to consider yourselves lucky.
Considering what Cryptic are doing to the Romulans, they could have very easily decided a separate KDF wasnt worth the effort and made them ally with the Federation the same way Romulans can choose to.
Its not like your complaining would have made the slightest bit of difference had they decided to do so.
Oh, God forbid the atrocious things Cryptic does to the Romulans, like bringing them into the game for ex. :rolleyes:
The Romulan storyline that developed in STO after J.J. said "to hell with Romulans" is the reason why this is applicable for the Romulan faction. Because it goes with the story that Cryptic are trying to tell in STO.
Believe me, if there was the story background to do it, the same could equally happen to the Klingons.
A small point on the issue of Fed and KDF ships for Romulan...A thought I had was that they might only gain access to lower tier ships, Captain and below.
Maybe gain access to Mirror ships, MAYBE.
But aside from that, just lower level stuff like say a TOS Connie, or Scourge Destroyer, etc.
Then after that, end-game ships would be faction specific. So no Romulans in a Fleet Galaxy, or a Vo'Quv, etc. But in turn, we wouldn't have a Fed captain in a D'deridex.
I could be wrong, since it's just speculation on my part.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
It called rain you, get an umbrella.. check back middle of may.. we'll see what happens then...
if KDF dont get.. THWEN the sky will be falling because the second KDF exodus will happen.
Khemaraa sends
It is falling. The OP is right although for the wrong reasons.
Romulan faction if the player aligns with KDF does not get access to KDF ships. They do get access to KDF GEAR. Aka the cstore ship consoles and mission reward weapons/consoles/doffs/etc.
So, the reality of it is, given the FACT that KDF has not and will not ever from now on receive a new unique ship (not copy/paste TRIBBLE) due to it all going to fed and romulan faction there is no reason to start a KDF toon... and no reason to keep playing your KDF toon either other than just to farm dilithium.
Romulan ships will be up to date. No pre-F2P type ships with obsolete boff stations...they will have cstore equivalent ships.
What this will do is simply make people in KDF just make a romulan toon, grind the romulan reputation in it and have it join their old KDF fleet. Voila. Better ship+all KDF kit and whatever new stuff roms will get + a fact that devs will continue to pamper the romulan faction from that point onward.
So you're saying a boost to KDF population even if it's from Romulan players is a bad thing? I say we were in a better position than we were last month.
Yes a lot of Feddies will join the Fed side to be with their fleet, that's okay do you really want them on the KDF side? Those types are the ones that have made it hard for this game and our faction to get anything. They sit on their mountain and tell us be happy with what you got. I am happy with them staying there, that way I only run into them when I am on my Fed characters.
Now there is a lot of Feddies who want to play KDF stuff but for one reason or another don't want to roll a KDF character. UI is too red, it hurts my eyes, I don't want to play as a Gorn, Lethean etc, I don't like their ships or uniforms blah blah. But they want to play a Romulan and what better opportunity for them than to experience KDF content through their Romulan character.
I think we are in a good position, a lot better than we have in the past. Wait till June, no point getting on it May it will be lag fest galore.
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It is falling. The OP is right although for the wrong reasons.
Romulan faction if the player aligns with KDF does not get access to KDF ships. They do get access to KDF GEAR. Aka the cstore ship consoles and mission reward weapons/consoles/doffs/etc.
So, the reality of it is, given the FACT that KDF has not and will not ever from now on receive a new unique ship (not copy/paste TRIBBLE) due to it all going to fed and romulan faction there is no reason to start a KDF toon... and no reason to keep playing your KDF toon either other than just to farm dilithium.
Romulan ships will be up to date. No pre-F2P type ships with obsolete boff stations...they will have cstore equivalent ships.
What this will do is simply make people in KDF just make a romulan toon, grind the romulan reputation in it and have it join their old KDF fleet. Voila. Better ship+all KDF kit and whatever new stuff roms will get + a fact that devs will continue to pamper the romulan faction from that point onward.
I am right about the ships:
Q: (walshicus) How will lockbox ships and consoles work for Romulans?
Dstahl: Romulan Republic captains not only have access to their exclusive faction ships, but will also have access to the ships and consoles of their chosen ally. Lock Box ships will remain available to all faction captains. This includes the possibility that we might release a Romulan themed box that may have specific Romulan ships that are available to all factions.
Q: (walshicus) How will lockbox ships and consoles work for Romulans?
Dstahl: Romulan Republic captains not only have access to their exclusive faction ships, but will also have access to the ships and consoles of their chosen ally. Lock Box ships will remain available to all faction captains. This includes the possibility that we might release a Romulan themed box that may have specific Romulan ships that are available to all factions.
I am right about the ships:
Well that is just BS, that is like having a Locbox of KDF ships for the Fed or vise versa.
If this is what they want to do I say bring on a new company with a new Star Trek MMO based on the Typhoon Pact books or some other era of Trek that actually gives a damn about the Star Trek IP.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Well that is just BS, that is like having a Locbox of KDF ships for the Fed or vise versa.
If this is what they want to do I say bring on a new company with a new Star Trek MMO based on the Typhoon Pact books or some other era of Trek that actually gives a damn about the Star Trek IP.
Typhoon pack HELLLL NOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I will not forgive them for blowing up DS9 killing Sela, and Killing off the Borg in the Destiny novels in the dumbest way possible.
Typhoon pack HELLLL NOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I will not forgive them for blowing up DS9 killing Sela, and Killing off the Borg in the Destiny novels in the dumbest way possible.
The Borg are so overused that it isn't funny, it was good to see them finally go. The books are better without them. It was also good to see the old Cardassian monstrosity of a station go too and be replaced with a new more modern design. Too many fans hold DS9 in such high esteem when at least to me it was one of the worst series out there. I won't go into the fact that a lot of it was ripped from B5 and reworked for the series.
STO overuses the Borg as well, something I wish they would move away from and have some Undine, Iconian and Fek"lhri STF's.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Depending on how the Romulan ships are laid out they might pick KDF ships they're built more for combat or looks. They might also be willing to drop some cash for the Z-store, I like KDF more than Starfleet because of the ships.
I don't think players fully realize yet just how serious this scenerio is - they hoped for more Klingon blood into the playerbase - but the advatages of running a Rommie/KDF toon are stacked too high against a traditional KDF toon.
As some Klingon players leave they will be replaced with Rommies - the Klingon part of the KDF will get smaller and smaller as time goes on.
Has it been confirmed that Roms will get full access to their "friend's" ships and gear? Lockbox ships are a given, but actual fleet ships as well? And if so, is it confirmed that its only one way? I realize they need a carrot to get people to stay after they do the new mission content, but this seems particularly wrong.
In a straight up warp/transwarp race from ESD to Mol'rihan? Or do you mean in solar systems and stuff?
In solar systems on impulse velocities, ofcourse.
In a straight race both would just click 'tranwarp' and *poff* both are at Mol'rihan. We wouldn't know which ship is faster because it would depend on the speed of the Helm officers that need to execute that order.
The Borg are so overused that it isn't funny, it was good to see them finally go. The books are better without them. It was also good to see the old Cardassian monstrosity of a station go too and be replaced with a new more modern design. Too many fans hold DS9 in such high esteem when at least to me it was one of the worst series out there. I won't go into the fact that a lot of it was ripped from B5 and reworked for the series.
STO overuses the Borg as well, something I wish they would move away from and have some Undine, Iconian and Fek"lhri STF's.
I agree the Borg were over used, and needed a final confrontation.... but the Deus ex machina was a crappy ending to the Borg....as well as a crappy explanation to how they got started.
That's opinion as well as mine about DS9, but blowing things up in Star Trek, then coming back is also overused..Characters come back from death, and ship coming back from death...it's such an overused plot....I want to see a Main ship blow up with more Dramatic flare, then just the producers want a new toy to play with next...or hey look a New delta Flyer, and Defiant and Enterprise...with an A...what's the point of blowing thigns up to just come back again.
Until the expansion is actually up and running all of this doom speak is pointless, if there's one thing we should have learned by now is just because D'Stahl says something doesn't means that's how it's going to go.
The nerd-raging juggernaut is already barreling along at full steam from people who haven't even seen what the new content is going to be about so I wouldn't for a minute discount the possibility of disinformation being released to throw a wrench in all of predictions and second guessing going on.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Until the expansion is actually up and running all of this doom speak is pointless, if there's one thing we should have learned by now is just because D'Stahl says something doesn't means that's how it's going to go.
The nerd-raging juggernaut is already barreling along at full steam from people who haven't even seen what the new content is going to be about so I wouldn't for a minute discount the possibility of disinformation being released to throw a wrench in all of predictions and second guessing going on.
The only bug-a-boo for the Romulan faction is having to ally with either Starfleet or KDF.
No option to be independent of the two main factions. I wonder if the Dev's are still considering thought of a Civilian faction?. Well, we will see what happens. Obviously considering whats happened to the Romulans in this universe. Home system and a great many other star systems in Romulan space have been shattered. The heart of the Romulan Star Empire gutted. Survivors are colonies and outposts on the fringes, large stations, and star ships. The Tal'shiar have apparently gone insane and may have been not only infiltrated by the iconians, but may have knowingly aided and abetted in the destruction of the Hobus star. The Fleet is apparently in shock and running on auto pilot. And out laying civilian populaces have chosen to seperate from the Empire. The Fleet how ever needs support and well, fleet unity appears to have disintigrated with the absence of Sela. (who may shortly be re-appearing! Be some good story there.) and then there is the transition to KDF or Starfleet play. Well, hopefully there will eventually be a option of "Niether" at some point for the Romulan players.
Of course the real question for we KDF is... "right!" *said in all enthusiasm and courtesy*, and the KDF stuff is going to be what?
Call it t minus 5 or 6 weeks to Tribble (it's going to be last possible moment) followed no more then 2 weeks later by the planned release. In the mean time we wait.
Klingon Fandom has always been the only reason to roll a Klingon. Nothing changes.
That is pretty much the truth in a nutshell. Pretty much the whole way fandom is played is setting up ships via canon so the only actual KDF ships I could see romulan players using on KDF side is the D7 and Kamarag if anything.
Of course the real question for we KDF is... "right!" *said in all enthusiasm and courtesy*, and the KDF stuff is going to be what?
Call it t minus 5 or 6 weeks to Tribble (it's going to be last possible moment) followed no more then 2 weeks later by the planned release. In the mean time we wait.
*sigh*
From Dstahl: The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.
From Dstahl: The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.
That is a lot more than I was expecting... If they throw in our missing KDF melee/ritual weapons it most likely would only need a negh'var retrofit to be fleshed out.
don't you think you're over-dramatizing, not to mention jumping the gun, a little too much?
my advice: wait and see how things play out in may (or on tribble, but keep in mind it's a TEST server, meaning anything going up there is a WIP), THEN come back and revisit this subject
No, he's not. The only reason to play a KDF over a Romulan is if you want a KDF specific race, for which you'd trade off tons of ships and probably gear and other assets. Just isn't worth it.
Also, waiting to "see how it plays out" would mean its too late.. Damage would be done. It's going to happen regardless, so it doesn't really matter what we say here anyway.
No, he's not. The only reason to play a KDF over a Romulan is if you want a KDF specific race, for which you'd trade off tons of ships and probably gear and other assets. Just isn't worth it.
Also, waiting to "see how it plays out" would mean its too late.. Damage would be done. It's going to happen regardless, so it doesn't really matter what we say here anyway.
No, he's not. The only reason to play a KDF over a Romulan is if you want a KDF specific race, for which you'd trade off tons of ships and probably gear and other assets. Just isn't worth it.
wrong; i play KDF for the sake of playing KDF, regardless of what the other factions have, same with every other true KDF player ingame (by 'true', i mean those who actually PLAY theirs, not just use it for dil farming)
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I like KDF more than Starfleet because of the ships.
For me it's the other way around.
Best thing would be if the Klingons finally joined Starfleet. Then 90% of all the pointless debates would be put to rest.
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Oh, God forbid the atrocious things Cryptic does to the Romulans, like bringing them into the game for ex. :rolleyes:
The Romulan storyline that developed in STO after J.J. said "to hell with Romulans" is the reason why this is applicable for the Romulan faction. Because it goes with the story that Cryptic are trying to tell in STO.
Believe me, if there was the story background to do it, the same could equally happen to the Klingons.
Maybe gain access to Mirror ships, MAYBE.
But aside from that, just lower level stuff like say a TOS Connie, or Scourge Destroyer, etc.
Then after that, end-game ships would be faction specific. So no Romulans in a Fleet Galaxy, or a Vo'Quv, etc. But in turn, we wouldn't have a Fed captain in a D'deridex.
I could be wrong, since it's just speculation on my part.
It is falling. The OP is right although for the wrong reasons.
Romulan faction if the player aligns with KDF does not get access to KDF ships. They do get access to KDF GEAR. Aka the cstore ship consoles and mission reward weapons/consoles/doffs/etc.
So, the reality of it is, given the FACT that KDF has not and will not ever from now on receive a new unique ship (not copy/paste TRIBBLE) due to it all going to fed and romulan faction there is no reason to start a KDF toon... and no reason to keep playing your KDF toon either other than just to farm dilithium.
Romulan ships will be up to date. No pre-F2P type ships with obsolete boff stations...they will have cstore equivalent ships.
What this will do is simply make people in KDF just make a romulan toon, grind the romulan reputation in it and have it join their old KDF fleet. Voila. Better ship+all KDF kit and whatever new stuff roms will get + a fact that devs will continue to pamper the romulan faction from that point onward.
lol
Yes a lot of Feddies will join the Fed side to be with their fleet, that's okay do you really want them on the KDF side? Those types are the ones that have made it hard for this game and our faction to get anything. They sit on their mountain and tell us be happy with what you got. I am happy with them staying there, that way I only run into them when I am on my Fed characters.
Now there is a lot of Feddies who want to play KDF stuff but for one reason or another don't want to roll a KDF character. UI is too red, it hurts my eyes, I don't want to play as a Gorn, Lethean etc, I don't like their ships or uniforms blah blah. But they want to play a Romulan and what better opportunity for them than to experience KDF content through their Romulan character.
I think we are in a good position, a lot better than we have in the past. Wait till June, no point getting on it May it will be lag fest galore.
I am right about the ships:
Well that is just BS, that is like having a Locbox of KDF ships for the Fed or vise versa.
If this is what they want to do I say bring on a new company with a new Star Trek MMO based on the Typhoon Pact books or some other era of Trek that actually gives a damn about the Star Trek IP.
Typhoon pack HELLLL NOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I will not forgive them for blowing up DS9 killing Sela, and Killing off the Borg in the Destiny novels in the dumbest way possible.
BOO YAA!
Laugh all you want, it still might end-up faster than the D'Deridex!
The Borg are so overused that it isn't funny, it was good to see them finally go. The books are better without them. It was also good to see the old Cardassian monstrosity of a station go too and be replaced with a new more modern design. Too many fans hold DS9 in such high esteem when at least to me it was one of the worst series out there. I won't go into the fact that a lot of it was ripped from B5 and reworked for the series.
STO overuses the Borg as well, something I wish they would move away from and have some Undine, Iconian and Fek"lhri STF's.
Has it been confirmed that Roms will get full access to their "friend's" ships and gear? Lockbox ships are a given, but actual fleet ships as well? And if so, is it confirmed that its only one way? I realize they need a carrot to get people to stay after they do the new mission content, but this seems particularly wrong.
In solar systems on impulse velocities, ofcourse.
In a straight race both would just click 'tranwarp' and *poff* both are at Mol'rihan.
I agree the Borg were over used, and needed a final confrontation.... but the Deus ex machina was a crappy ending to the Borg....as well as a crappy explanation to how they got started.
That's opinion as well as mine about DS9, but blowing things up in Star Trek, then coming back is also overused..Characters come back from death, and ship coming back from death...it's such an overused plot....I want to see a Main ship blow up with more Dramatic flare, then just the producers want a new toy to play with next...or hey look a New delta Flyer, and Defiant and Enterprise...with an A...what's the point of blowing thigns up to just come back again.
The nerd-raging juggernaut is already barreling along at full steam from people who haven't even seen what the new content is going to be about so I wouldn't for a minute discount the possibility of disinformation being released to throw a wrench in all of predictions and second guessing going on.
The only bug-a-boo for the Romulan faction is having to ally with either Starfleet or KDF.
No option to be independent of the two main factions. I wonder if the Dev's are still considering thought of a Civilian faction?. Well, we will see what happens. Obviously considering whats happened to the Romulans in this universe. Home system and a great many other star systems in Romulan space have been shattered. The heart of the Romulan Star Empire gutted. Survivors are colonies and outposts on the fringes, large stations, and star ships. The Tal'shiar have apparently gone insane and may have been not only infiltrated by the iconians, but may have knowingly aided and abetted in the destruction of the Hobus star. The Fleet is apparently in shock and running on auto pilot. And out laying civilian populaces have chosen to seperate from the Empire. The Fleet how ever needs support and well, fleet unity appears to have disintigrated with the absence of Sela. (who may shortly be re-appearing! Be some good story there.) and then there is the transition to KDF or Starfleet play. Well, hopefully there will eventually be a option of "Niether" at some point for the Romulan players.
Of course the real question for we KDF is... "right!" *said in all enthusiasm and courtesy*, and the KDF stuff is going to be what?
Call it t minus 5 or 6 weeks to Tribble (it's going to be last possible moment) followed no more then 2 weeks later by the planned release. In the mean time we wait.
*sigh*
Khemaraa sends.
That is pretty much the truth in a nutshell. Pretty much the whole way fandom is played is setting up ships via canon so the only actual KDF ships I could see romulan players using on KDF side is the D7 and Kamarag if anything.
From Dstahl:
The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.
Find his post here
Hope this helps...
That is a lot more than I was expecting... If they throw in our missing KDF melee/ritual weapons it most likely would only need a negh'var retrofit to be fleshed out.
No, he's not. The only reason to play a KDF over a Romulan is if you want a KDF specific race, for which you'd trade off tons of ships and probably gear and other assets. Just isn't worth it.
Also, waiting to "see how it plays out" would mean its too late.. Damage would be done. It's going to happen regardless, so it doesn't really matter what we say here anyway.
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wrong; i play KDF for the sake of playing KDF, regardless of what the other factions have, same with every other true KDF player ingame (by 'true', i mean those who actually PLAY theirs, not just use it for dil farming)
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For me it's the other way around.
Best thing would be if the Klingons finally joined Starfleet. Then 90% of all the pointless debates would be put to rest.