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tpalelena
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The go down fighting ability either requires you to take damage, or its just unavailable.
The tooltip says "When certain conditions are met." I assume this is the ship is damaged.
This is a bad change, it basically makes the whole ability useless in STFs.
When a tactical cube has the escort's shields down, and already damaged the hull.... then you are dead already, and the damage bonus is useless because you should either be healing, or running away out of the cube's range.
Either case, you got 1 to 3 seconds to live, and the ability will not do you any good.
The ability should be just taken out or re-enabled with an undamaged ship, because right now its a waste of an icon that you should just remove of the ability tray like abandon ship.
The tooltip says "When certain conditions are met." I assume this is the ship is damaged.
This is a bad change, it basically makes the whole ability useless in STFs.
When a tactical cube has the escort's shields down, and already damaged the hull.... then you are dead already, and the damage bonus is useless because you should either be healing, or running away out of the cube's range.
Either case, you got 1 to 3 seconds to live, and the ability will not do you any good.
The ability should be just taken out or re-enabled with an undamaged ship, because right now its a waste of an icon that you should just remove of the ability tray like abandon ship.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
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Say good bye to using this in STFs.
Now... why is this bad? Because if you are getting fire in an STF as an escort, and your shields are down and hull is going below 50% , you either flee, or die in 3 seconds.
Which makes this ability totally useless in an STF.
If you die, you don't deal damage.
If you flee, your turrets will shoot for a second or two.
So this ability should be taken out of your ability tray and put next to abandon ship as "useless trash" when its nerfed.
If your escort can't survive more than five seconds without popping with shields down, you're doing it wrong, and you probably should change your sig.
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Fleeing it is another option, but then you are hardly doing damage, are you? Unless you mount non dual weaponry, of course.
Hm... as happy as you are that that the tacticals will be nerfed to uselessness, that wont make the other classes any better.
So yeah. Pug stfs will be even harder.
And I plan on not only changing my signature, but stopping playing with the tacticals.
Edit: I changed the signature, and I think this is still a bad idea.
Balance could have been achived by making engineering and science captains stronger, but nope.
Lets make tacticals useless. Makes more sense then buffing the other two.... why?
The only thing I can imagine behind this would be that people running less STFs means less dilithium, so more people would be buying zen to spend on the dilithium exchange.
If this makes you happy, maybe dual weapon systems should be removed from the game too.
Welcome to the 30 minute stf runs.
Could they have not just halved its damage bonus and duration?
And my jupiter outfit parts can no longer be selected in the tailor. When it rains, it pours.
Having to reroll my tacticals as science is one thing (or engineers for KDF side), but without all the pretty jupiter outfits which i payed for its just sad.
The other tactical space trait decreases the enemy's accuracy by around 4.8 with a critical, and stacks 3 times.
It seems like my DPS-heavy tacticals will become Tankticals with less damage but more resilience.
Maybe this is a good time to get plasma beam arrays and the Regent torpedo, and go full broadside.
That way this skill becomes OP, not useless.
If you pop GDF at say 20% and hull heal up you keep the buff from the 20% plus u have time to pop a eng/bat and evasive out turn ur aux power up heal and get back in there to finish the job and hit APA after GDF to get a real boost...
Play the game with team mates that complement each other a Tank, Healer and 3 dps you will have alot more fun and complain less about shizit on the forum's
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That sounds nice indeed. Still we can not always have that luck.
Tactical Space traits:
Go down fighting doubles resistance.
Criticals debuff your target to loose 4.8 accuracy, stacks 3 times.
Tactical ground:
Your attacks have a chance to boot crit chance by 2.5% , stacks 3 times I think.
Your grenades expose for a few seconds.
Science Space :
Sci space:
Incoming energy damage increases your exotic damage by 10% . stacks 3 times
All your shield heals reduce the cooldown on photonic fleet by 15 sec
Ground ones :
All your heals heal enemy shields and give 50% damage res for 4 seconds
25 bonus damage dealt to confused or debuffed targets.
Engineer space:
Using a battery will give a smaller power level raise to the other 3 subsystems.
If you take more then 20% hull damage in 5 seconds, Miracle worker instantly finishes the cooldown. This can only trigger every 90 seconds, and needs miracle worker to be on a cooldown, obviously.
Engineer grounds:
Damage resistance and health regen to all your drones and fabrications.
When you are hit by an energy weapon, your shields adapt to it, giving 5% resistance to that energy type. This stacks 3 times. However it can only resist one energy type at once.
So far, science ones seem fine. 30% exotic damage boost? Oh sounds lovely!
Engineer... the battery one seems a bit lacklustre. Maybe with 9 skill points into starship batteries skill this is useful.
Tactical ones... well, the ground ones are fine, the space ones are...tanking.
Tankticals ... are we sure we want tacticals to tank, and not deal a lot of damage?
Do you use torpedoes, cutting beam, or just a full DHC-turret build?
Consoles. Eng: borg, romulan, electroceramic, ablative. Tac : 3 ap, 1 plasma torpedo. SCI : field generator, 1 -threat romulan console.
I use it whenever i can when im doing heavy damage...it helps when im getting mobbed by nanite spheres in ISE, BoPs in CURE and cubes/spheres in KASE.
That science trait sounds awesome though
I have the same problem, but it seems that this is a nerf to alpha strike, but if you take the trait, it will let you get more resistance.
Hence tanking tacticals.
I know people complain about Tacs guys, but are you going to start graying out other career powers until "conditions are met"?
At the best, the balance could be solved by buffing non tacticals... I would even stand for a nerf of the damage output or duration of the ability, but this just greys it out.
And the tooltip talks about "if conditions are met" . It dare not say "if player is damaged."
Hmm, given Cryptic's obsession with making everything tougher (see the armor consoles for cruisers thread) It wouldn't surprise me is the idea is to make escorts more survivable as they make a quick exit.
I have to agree. In fact, I was unaware that it ever gave a damage bonus while undamaged. That's.. silly.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
I mean, they are the same level abilities of the other classes, it would only be fair if all classes had an ability they can't use with full health.
Dude, the game is pretty much tactical/escort online. Having a requirement (that actual make sense) for one of tac abilities will hardly make the class underpowered. You will just clear those trivial STFs in 8:50, instead of 8:45.
Are you serious? What kind of squishy are you? Minimax clone? Do you hold 0 heals on yourself? Since when go down fighting increased your defensive abilities? You are stoopid. It's like me QQ:ing about my APA not making me immune to damage.
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That's pretty much the gist of it right there.
What's next, Miracle Worker only when you're below 15% health? Photonic Fleet only when you're outnumbered by more than 10 to 1?
Half the innate abilities (Ramming Speed, Abandon Ship, Fleet Support) hardly get used as it is because of restrictions like this. Do we really want to start adding even more powers to that list?
/done
In all seriousness. You could be using the time you're putting into complaining about exploding into learning how to tank.
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Ya, me too. I always thought it was unavailable until below 50% which is why I've almost never used it. It really SHOULD be a last resort power, and if the plan is to make it work only when below 50% hull then I all for it.
<edit> wait, it already is:
So whats the problem ? Broken 'I win' button ???
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I already have those. Still, this is a bad idea. On holodeck it seemed to be useable all the time.
And Nadeon inversion at least is activatable.