How many black holes have you created with it? Doesn't change 3 years of saying new movies off limits .
Tons. I use it to power up my aux stat, and then open a glitterwell on my unicorn class science ship. It's FABULOUS.
Anyways, the point is, that in 2009, they swung some leeway to utilize a bunch of new movie stuff. Here we are in 2013, with ... a NEW new movie coming out.
There's nothing to stop them from trying to swing some sort of new cross promotional potential that includes new itemization that links right back into the new Trek and gives players new stuff. Like a Narada for the brand new faction that debuts right around the time the new new movie debuts.
Also, another thing from the 2009 trek movie in the game (and it's Romulan specific) ... Romulan Tattoo. You can put Nero's tattoo on your face in the alien customization options.
That's directly from the movie. And not any of the shows.
This barrier you seem to think exists, didn't exist three years ago.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
Also, another thing from the 2009 trek movie in the game (and it's Romulan specific) ... Romulan Tattoo. You can put Nero's tattoo on your face in the alien customization options.
That's directly from the movie. And not any of the shows.
This barrier you seem to think exists, didn't exist three years ago.
Well, sort of. Things like the Red Matter Capacitor, the Tattoo, and background fluff exist, but there are some things that haven't been allowed from JJtrek.
For example, did you know that the 2009 uniforms are in the games code? Modeled, textured and everything? You can fool the foundry into displaying them, and they can even appear on NPC's under the right circumstances. But for some strange reason Paramount and CBS won't allow them. So I wonder what's up with that.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
For example, did you know that the 2009 uniforms are in the games code? Modeled, textured and everything?
Yup. Remember them quite well. I always want to bring them up in "debates" about what they can and can't do with the JJ movie, because a lot of times the discussion likes to try and focus on how the game only uses stuff from before the timeline shifted backwards and parallel. But I was always having trouble finding a good shot of them as game assets to link.
But for some strange reason Paramount and CBS won't allow them. So I wonder what's up with that.
I think it's probably something really simple. Whoever worked out the deal/details with the stuff that did make it into the game, couldn't swing the uniforms. And since then, that person (it may have been, say, Emmert himself, or Zinc) has moved on. So they just didn't have anyone on staff to try and work on joint CBS-Paramount marketing potential. They lost a ton of staff over the past few years. And even the ones they had, like DStahl for example, didn't work on that big corporate boardroom type of marketing deals when the game was in beta.
Again, I'm not saying the Narada will happen. But I do see room for the possibility that it could happen. There was someone working together with CBS and Paramount way back when.
Tons. I use it to power up my aux stat, and then open a glitterwell on my unicorn class science ship. It's FABULOUS.
Anyways, the point is, that in 2009, they swung some leeway to utilize a bunch of new movie stuff. Here we are in 2013, with ... a NEW new movie coming out.
There's nothing to stop them from trying to swing some sort of new cross promotional potential that includes new itemization that links right back into the new Trek and gives players new stuff. Like a Narada for the brand new faction that debuts right around the time the new new movie debuts.
Also, another thing from the 2009 trek movie in the game (and it's Romulan specific) ... Romulan Tattoo. You can put Nero's tattoo on your face in the alien customization options.
That's directly from the movie. And not any of the shows.
This barrier you seem to think exists, didn't exist three years ago.
There is a reason Cryptic said Red matter won't be going to the C store.
The Kelvin's saucer is about the size of the Constitution's. The JJ Constitution is supposed to be slightly larger than the original, but with bulkier engines (There is the shuttle scene that would require the ship to be much larger, but every other shot with a scale reference requires it to be much smaller than that shot did), putting the Kelvin a bit bigger than the Miranda.
With that scale, the Borg upgraded Narada is not quite as wide as B'ger and about half as long. Big, but we're talking tactical cube big, not Enterprise-J big.
If we go with the scale required for the shuttle scene (close to Galaxy size, making the Kelvin something closer to the Cheyenne or Nebula), this puts the Narada right about as long as B'ger and somewhat fatter. Large enough to break firing arcs and probably something that would have to be immobile, but still an order of magnitude away from the Enterprise-J.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
Are you saying it didn't take me 5-6 months of effort to get my Mk XII MACO Sniper Rifle?
I'm saying the TR-116 Sniper Rifle pre-order bonus from Target which is the MACO rifle written about in Needs of the Many and is able to shoot through Fluidic Space and Undine Personal shields in that book, is a starter level item that MANY MANY MANY people wanted put on the C-Store when the other pre-order items were put on the C-Store. But it never has been.
Thing is, it's DPS was starter level, but people abused its special properties (especially in ground pvp) to utilize it at high levels effectively.
Where have all you noobs been the past three years?
For this game the Narada would probably be the same size as a Borg command ship. To be honest the thing doesn't look good, it looks like a flying trash heap, a bundle of mangled girders lashed together with an engine stuck on the end and I hope we never see it in game.
I hope that ships never get any more abstract than the Breen ships, those are bad enough.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
It's a MACO gun because MACO marines use it. Yes, the TR-116.
That's stretching it quite a bit. Unless you're going to argue that every weapon in the Starfleet ground arsenal is a MACO weapon because a MACO might use it?
It IS a MACO rifle. It's used by MACO Marines. That's how it ties into the game and why it exists.
Wrong. the TR-116 was created to be an anti-borg weapon. It was abandoned in favor of self-resequencing directed energy weapons (weapons which consequently failed against the Borg, but that's neither here nor there). Those few that were fielded were used by far more than just MACOs.
That's stretching it quite a bit. Unless you're going to argue that every weapon in the Starfleet ground arsenal is a MACO weapon because a MACO might use it?
Yeah, that's a big stretch. You are correct is saying it's a Starter weapon, but it's not a MACO weapon.
That's stretching it quite a bit. Unless you're going to argue that every weapon in the Starfleet ground arsenal is a MACO weapon because a MACO might use it?
Wrong. the TR-116 was created to be an anti-borg weapon. It was abandoned in favor of self-resequencing directed energy weapons. Those few that were fielded were used by far more than just MACOs.
I'm not stretching a damn thing. I'll quote the book, as seen in this thread from these forums.
<sisko> Would you mind describing the TR-116?
<Stiles> The TR-116. My sweetheart. It's a piece of old-school warfare technology. The TR-116 is a rifle that Starfleet developed for use in high-radiation environments that would criple a phaser. Or against enemies like the Jem'Hadar, or the Borg -- a foe with the ability to shield itself from directed-weapons. But instead of firing a collimated energy beam, theme TR-116 use an internal chemical explosion to launch metal projectiles, either one at a time or in rapid-fire mode. We called it the T-Rex for short because it was a technological dinosaur. And because it was loud, not to mention scary as hell.
<Sisko> I remember someone going on a killing spree decades ago aboard Deep Space 9 using one of those things.
<Stiles> so you know how effective a weapon like that can be, even in the age of the phaser. The TR-116 can shred nearly any solid enemy with a lethal hail of ballistic micromissiles. It can even fire through most material barriers without so much as much as scratching the paint on the walls, thanks to itscomputerized targeting system and micro transporter built into the barrel.
That's Stiles, the MACO Marine, being interviewed by Jake Sisko. In the official STO Novel. It's the gun preferred by the MACO Marines. In 2409. In the war with the Undine. The whole big plot event that was the impetus for the game.
It's a MACO gun, and that's how it was promoted. Back then. Before MACO reputation EXISTED.
It IS a MACO rifle. It's used by MACO Marines. That's how it ties into the game and why it exists.
I think expecting people to have read The Needs of the Many and noted that MACO soldiers used the TR-116 (and memorized it, since I have read it and forgot that fact) is unreasonable, and calling someone a "noob" for not knowing that is unfair, considering that there is a different rifle in-game known as the "MACO rifle," which people are far more likely to be familiar with.
That aside, I agree with you - there are plenty of preorder bonus items which haven't made their way to the C-Store which have nothing to do with the 2009 movie, so there's no reason to conclude that's the reason the Red Matter Capacitor is unavailable.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
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How many black holes have you created with it? Doesn't change 3 years of saying new movies off limits .
Romulan Tufli analog. I can live with that.
Anyways, the point is, that in 2009, they swung some leeway to utilize a bunch of new movie stuff. Here we are in 2013, with ... a NEW new movie coming out.
There's nothing to stop them from trying to swing some sort of new cross promotional potential that includes new itemization that links right back into the new Trek and gives players new stuff. Like a Narada for the brand new faction that debuts right around the time the new new movie debuts.
Also, another thing from the 2009 trek movie in the game (and it's Romulan specific) ... Romulan Tattoo. You can put Nero's tattoo on your face in the alien customization options.
That's directly from the movie. And not any of the shows.
This barrier you seem to think exists, didn't exist three years ago.
TBH, I think The Vault is entirely the invention of the Countdown comic, and Cryptic lifted it wholesale.
I agree. Give the Tuffli some buddies.
Well, sort of. Things like the Red Matter Capacitor, the Tattoo, and background fluff exist, but there are some things that haven't been allowed from JJtrek.
For example, did you know that the 2009 uniforms are in the games code? Modeled, textured and everything? You can fool the foundry into displaying them, and they can even appear on NPC's under the right circumstances. But for some strange reason Paramount and CBS won't allow them. So I wonder what's up with that.
Yup. Remember them quite well. I always want to bring them up in "debates" about what they can and can't do with the JJ movie, because a lot of times the discussion likes to try and focus on how the game only uses stuff from before the timeline shifted backwards and parallel. But I was always having trouble finding a good shot of them as game assets to link.
I think it's probably something really simple. Whoever worked out the deal/details with the stuff that did make it into the game, couldn't swing the uniforms. And since then, that person (it may have been, say, Emmert himself, or Zinc) has moved on. So they just didn't have anyone on staff to try and work on joint CBS-Paramount marketing potential. They lost a ton of staff over the past few years. And even the ones they had, like DStahl for example, didn't work on that big corporate boardroom type of marketing deals when the game was in beta.
Again, I'm not saying the Narada will happen. But I do see room for the possibility that it could happen. There was someone working together with CBS and Paramount way back when.
There is a reason Cryptic said Red matter won't be going to the C store.
NO first off that ship was a mining ship in 2409 it would be like flying a tuffi into a stf
Enhanced Plasma Manifold does the same thing almost like the RMC
Here is the image I was basing my gestimate on. And yeah, maybe 10x was a bit of an exageration...
But I'm not sure I see your point.
The MACO rifle isn't in the C-Store. Nor is the Chromodynamic Armor. CBS/Paramount issues aren't keeping them out of the store.
One is an endgame gun the other is not.
Are you saying it didn't take me 5-6 months of effort to get my Mk XII MACO Sniper Rifle?
MACO??? which gun are you talking about then the only MACO gun i know is the rifle you get from STF.
You're referring to the TR-116 rifle, not MACO, yes?
Thing is, it's DPS was starter level, but people abused its special properties (especially in ground pvp) to utilize it at high levels effectively.
Where have all you noobs been the past three years?
nothing to see here.
I hope that ships never get any more abstract than the Breen ships, those are bad enough.
That's stretching it quite a bit. Unless you're going to argue that every weapon in the Starfleet ground arsenal is a MACO weapon because a MACO might use it?
Wrong. the TR-116 was created to be an anti-borg weapon. It was abandoned in favor of self-resequencing directed energy weapons (weapons which consequently failed against the Borg, but that's neither here nor there). Those few that were fielded were used by far more than just MACOs.
Yeah, that's a big stretch. You are correct is saying it's a Starter weapon, but it's not a MACO weapon.
That's Stiles, the MACO Marine, being interviewed by Jake Sisko. In the official STO Novel. It's the gun preferred by the MACO Marines. In 2409. In the war with the Undine. The whole big plot event that was the impetus for the game.
It's a MACO gun, and that's how it was promoted. Back then. Before MACO reputation EXISTED.
Again, I ask, where were you noobs back then?
I think expecting people to have read The Needs of the Many and noted that MACO soldiers used the TR-116 (and memorized it, since I have read it and forgot that fact) is unreasonable, and calling someone a "noob" for not knowing that is unfair, considering that there is a different rifle in-game known as the "MACO rifle," which people are far more likely to be familiar with.
That aside, I agree with you - there are plenty of preorder bonus items which haven't made their way to the C-Store which have nothing to do with the 2009 movie, so there's no reason to conclude that's the reason the Red Matter Capacitor is unavailable.