I hope it was more meaningless than Tasha Yar's death.
Seriously, though, I thought he just got spirited away by space Indians (not sure if that's the politically correct term to use, but "space native americans" just sounded silly).
During Q's game against the musket-wielding pig-faced aliens. Sadly it wasn't permanent.
Jack Emmert: "Starfleet and Klingon. ... So two factions, full PvE content." Al Rivera hates Klingons Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert All cloaks should be canon.
trek hard sci-fi? Trek is like i dunnonew play doh wkwkwkw...that said Wars is practically liquid water lol
Im a huge trek fan, but cmonman...its not even plastic hard.
Well Kirk and Spock used flip phones and TNG and DS9 used Ipads. Yes there were some crazy made up things but most of the things were at least plausible given enough advancement. No, it wasn't Issac Asimov style diamond hard sci-fi, but most things were at least partially based in reality.
I prefer Star Trek for the most part because it is more scientically accurate or plausible, anyway. My loyalties switched to Star Wars for a while while the prequels were coming out, though.
They both have their place. Star Trek for hard sci-fi, Star Wars for soft sci-fi and epic sagas.
Now can someone please fix my lightsaber bat'tleh so I can hack Borg drones in glorious neon colored light?
What he said, they both have advantages and disadvantages. Remember they are both science fiction but star trek is tailored more to science of the real world and hypothetical theories which could be true or false and technical speak.
Star Wars more of drama and fantasy. I love both of them.
01. The Enterprise doesn't have that Governor Tarkin smell.
I'll give you that one.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I like both, but here are my reasons why I lean toward Star Trek (in my own humble opinion)
10) Aesthetics
I just like the design and style of ST more than I do SW, given the choice I'd choose a BoP over the Millennium Falcon or the Enterprise over a Star Destroyer any day of the week. Same for uniforms and ground level styles.
9) Plot variety
ST has episodic content that features first contacts, discovery, exploration or even just day to day events on a starship. SW only seems to revolve around the whole Jedi vs Sith/Empire vs Rebellion thing.
8) Not black and white
SW is pretty much bad guys VS good guys. In ST however it isn't always as clear cut, most times it is a grey area with no clear right answers or course of action.
7) Technology
As well as liking the look of ST, I also prefer the way it functions. Transporters, Warp-drives and viewing screens are more appealing to me even if they aren't as powerful as SW equivalents. I also like that it is inspired by current technology and scientific understandings (even if the rules are bent, broken or laughed at)
6) Realism
I like that it is in our universe and potentially a good portrayal of our own future rather than in some magical land far, far away. I also like that they avoid magic and laser swords, though one could argue that psychic abilities are as good as.
5) Better re-make(s)
Controversial one here, but based on it's own merits I really did enjoy JJ's Star Trek far more than I did the first 2 SW prequels. I'm not that convinced with the new JJ film based on what I have seen, but I can?t really compare it to Episode 3 until I see it (which is the best prequel of the bunch).
4) Respect for IP
Another questionable opinion I grant you, but to my knowlege the worst thing to happen to ST is a series or a film that didn't quite match the expectations of some particular fans but it is still somewhat ST. Meanwhile Lucas has been all too happy to abuse SW to earn an extra buck.
3) Iconic characters
On the one hand we have Darth Vader, Yoda, Han Solo, Chewie and countless others. On the other we have Spock, Kirk, Bones, Picard, Q, Sisko, Quark and many more. Sorry Yoda, I have to go with Spock on this one.
2) Villains
I love so many of the villains in ST. Captain Kruge, General Chang, KHAN!!!
But the Borg are my most favourite sci-fi villains. They learn, they adapt and they assimilate. I'm sorry but they would wipe the floor with anything SW could cook up as resistance.
1) No irritating characters
Can you tell me, here and now, that Wesley Crusher is more annoying than Jar Jar Binks or C3PO? Crusher is bad, but he doesn't lead me to claw my own eyes out.
- KDF Ambassador Syon vocalizing her objection to the discussions of possible peace talks with the UFP due to recent Borg and Undine activities.Hegh'bat, Stardate 66588.8
But the Borg are my most favourite sci-fi villains. They learn, they adapt and they assimilate. I'm sorry but they would wipe the floor with anything SW could cook up as resistance.
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
Not really. The Death Star takes forever to charge up its planet killing laser, which is fixed and can only target one enemy at a time. The Borg would just need to send an armada against it, get a few drones on board, and there goes the Empire.
Not really. The Death Star takes forever to charge up its planet killing laser, which is fixed and can only target one enemy at a time. The Borg would just need to send an armada against it, get a few drones on board, and there goes the Empire.
Not in Jedi, it can and does fire several shots to destroy Mon Cal Cruisers., besides if the Borg did send a an armada against DSII, they would still have to get through the Imperial Starfleet first.
Plus the capital ship weapons on ISD's appear to be actual projectiles not energy, so the Borg wouldn't be able to adapt, just regenerate.
Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?
Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down. :P
The second one needed it's shields down for the fighters to get inside, with the shields up it was impossible, besides the Borg have no fighters on screen.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
10. Darth Vader has only one sphere, the Death Star. The Borg have thousands upon thousands of spheres AND cubes. (Geometric shapes seem to be a favorite among villans...)
9. Those light sabers are kinda primative compared to phasers. Why have a sword when you can have a gun?
8. Star Trek has five series and a lot more movies.
7. The Federation vs. The Force. Idiot Vader wouldn't have a chance!
6. Star Trek's technology is much more advanced. What's so bad about transporters saving you life, anyway?
5. The graphics in Voyager alone are just as good as those in the re-made version of Star Wars.
4. Vulcans, Carrdasions, Klingons, Romulans, Remons, Jem Hadar (I could go on like forever)
3. DOMINION!!!!!!!
2. There is more than one way to get around...from star ships to shuttles to transporters...from warp to transwarp to slip stream...
And the Number One Reason Why Star Trek is Better Than Star Wars:
"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the-"
We are the Borg. Resistance as you know it is over. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile.
I am Vader of Borg, resistance, is futile.
I forgot about the Dyson Sphere, that thing is big enough to cover the sun and and all the planets in our solar system.
(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
I forgot about the Dyson Sphere, that thing is big enough to cover the sun and and all the planets in our solar system.
(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
lasers & blasters? vs 1.1 Phasers
*Snip*star wars sucks
Okay that's just stupid, copying a list of weapons is incredibly silly, that's not even including the fact that if you did the same from the SW wikia you would end up with far more, maybe several 100.
Besides lists are not a reason by themselves;)
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
big round ball that shoots a primative LASER? How can they get any less origanal.
Super laser not laser, and it destroys planets and is encased in a moon sized battlestation that has an engine that enables it to travel across the whole galaxy faster than it would take a Fed ship to travel across a bit of a quadrant, oh and armour and shielding that means an entire Rebel Fleet couldn't take it out.
(Unless the commander was a moron with an external shield)
Yup primitive:D
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Plus the capital ship weapons on ISD's appear to be actual projectiles not energy, so the Borg wouldn't be able to adapt, just regenerate.
Turbolasers are energy weapons, basically massively scaled-up blaster pistols.
It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
Turbolasers are energy weapons, basically massively scaled-up blaster pistols.
It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.
I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.
I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?
From the Wookiee:An ion cannon was a weapon which fired highly ionized particles or highly ionized plasma.
I actually liked Space 1999 too. I have the first season on DVD. Insane premise, (moon blown out of orbit by a nuclear explosion) but I thought it was a good show, at least the first season.
One thing I have noticed throughout the SW vs ST debates I've been involved in (both on Trek forums, Wars forums, and neutral forums) is that the people that are fans of both franchises tend to make good points, fans exclusively of Wars make sensible points but can concede some parts of Trek are better, and fans of ST make points such as:
(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
So yeah... I think Wars wins in a "whose fans can debate better?" debate.
Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?
Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down. :P
Comparing sci-fi characters/tech to each other can bee a silly argument, but I have to agree with you on this one. The borg would easily defeat the death star.
The only thing I like about Star Wars more than Star Trek?
No Time Travel.
...and Hyperspace is much faster than warp (whatever).
...and starships in SW have mechanical parts instead of colored displays with pictures of stuff.
...and leia's bikini is hotter than 7of9's bodysuit.
...and fighters in SW are a threat.
...and people grow and eat stuff in SW as opposed to eating food suppliment 47 from a replicator.
...and SW has more driods.
...and SW ships all use cannons.
...and dirt or burn marks on your ship in SW give it character.
...and lightsabers deflect energy better than shields.
...and Trek is devoid of any higher power where SW has the force.
It would be all the answers you need, if it covered enough of the EU.
Considering it uses the "small ships can't have cloaks" thing, it obviously doesn't include ships such as the TIE Phantom... a ship created for a game released in 1995.
It would be all the answers you need, if it covered enough of the EU.
Partially because the site dismisses most licensed works other than the official movie novelizations as "non-canon" despite the current official state of SW canonincluding most such works except when explicitly overridden by "higher-canon" material.
Also, they seem to not quite realize what strategic weapons are. The Death Star is the epitome of a strategic weapon... one that the Empire hoped they only had to fire once (and then twice...). TIE Bombers are tactical weapons, like the torpedo planes from WWII.
Super laser not laser, and it destroys planets and is encased in a moon sized battlestation that has an engine that enables it to travel across the whole galaxy faster than it would take a Fed ship to travel across a bit of a quadrant, oh and armour and shielding that means an entire Rebel Fleet couldn't take it out.
(Unless the commander was a moron with an external shield)
Yup primitive:D
Oh my goodness! every time a topicc like this has been made there is always some noob (you) that trys there very best to defend star wars!
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During Q's game against the musket-wielding pig-faced aliens. Sadly it wasn't permanent.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
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trek hard sci-fi? Trek is like i dunnonew play doh wkwkwkw...that said Wars is practically liquid water lol
Im a huge trek fan, but cmonman...its not even plastic hard.
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Well Kirk and Spock used flip phones and TNG and DS9 used Ipads. Yes there were some crazy made up things but most of the things were at least plausible given enough advancement. No, it wasn't Issac Asimov style diamond hard sci-fi, but most things were at least partially based in reality.
What he said, they both have advantages and disadvantages. Remember they are both science fiction but star trek is tailored more to science of the real world and hypothetical theories which could be true or false and technical speak.
Star Wars more of drama and fantasy. I love both of them.
I'll give you that one.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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10) Aesthetics
I just like the design and style of ST more than I do SW, given the choice I'd choose a BoP over the Millennium Falcon or the Enterprise over a Star Destroyer any day of the week. Same for uniforms and ground level styles.
9) Plot variety
ST has episodic content that features first contacts, discovery, exploration or even just day to day events on a starship. SW only seems to revolve around the whole Jedi vs Sith/Empire vs Rebellion thing.
8) Not black and white
SW is pretty much bad guys VS good guys. In ST however it isn't always as clear cut, most times it is a grey area with no clear right answers or course of action.
7) Technology
As well as liking the look of ST, I also prefer the way it functions. Transporters, Warp-drives and viewing screens are more appealing to me even if they aren't as powerful as SW equivalents. I also like that it is inspired by current technology and scientific understandings (even if the rules are bent, broken or laughed at)
6) Realism
I like that it is in our universe and potentially a good portrayal of our own future rather than in some magical land far, far away. I also like that they avoid magic and laser swords, though one could argue that psychic abilities are as good as.
5) Better re-make(s)
Controversial one here, but based on it's own merits I really did enjoy JJ's Star Trek far more than I did the first 2 SW prequels. I'm not that convinced with the new JJ film based on what I have seen, but I can?t really compare it to Episode 3 until I see it (which is the best prequel of the bunch).
4) Respect for IP
Another questionable opinion I grant you, but to my knowlege the worst thing to happen to ST is a series or a film that didn't quite match the expectations of some particular fans but it is still somewhat ST. Meanwhile Lucas has been all too happy to abuse SW to earn an extra buck.
3) Iconic characters
On the one hand we have Darth Vader, Yoda, Han Solo, Chewie and countless others. On the other we have Spock, Kirk, Bones, Picard, Q, Sisko, Quark and many more. Sorry Yoda, I have to go with Spock on this one.
2) Villains
I love so many of the villains in ST. Captain Kruge, General Chang, KHAN!!!
But the Borg are my most favourite sci-fi villains. They learn, they adapt and they assimilate. I'm sorry but they would wipe the floor with anything SW could cook up as resistance.
1) No irritating characters
Can you tell me, here and now, that Wesley Crusher is more annoying than Jar Jar Binks or C3PO? Crusher is bad, but he doesn't lead me to claw my own eyes out.
Star Wars?
Space:1999
- KDF Ambassador Syon vocalizing her objection to the discussions of possible peace talks with the UFP due to recent Borg and Undine activities. Hegh'bat, Stardate 66588.8
Death Star.
It kinda invalidates any arguments about the Borg.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Not really. The Death Star takes forever to charge up its planet killing laser, which is fixed and can only target one enemy at a time. The Borg would just need to send an armada against it, get a few drones on board, and there goes the Empire.
Death Star...Death Star...Oh yes! You mean the station that was destroyed twice by a ragtag bunch of Rebel pilots right?
Oh I agree, I'm sure a faction that specialises in learning and adapting to everything would have a real hard time taking one down. :P
Not in Jedi, it can and does fire several shots to destroy Mon Cal Cruisers., besides if the Borg did send a an armada against DSII, they would still have to get through the Imperial Starfleet first.
Plus the capital ship weapons on ISD's appear to be actual projectiles not energy, so the Borg wouldn't be able to adapt, just regenerate.
The second one needed it's shields down for the fighters to get inside, with the shields up it was impossible, besides the Borg have no fighters on screen.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I forgot about the Dyson Sphere, that thing is big enough to cover the sun and and all the planets in our solar system.
(Bye the way you idiots who like star wars better than Star Trek should go play one of the many crappy games they have instead of the number one multi-player game. STO)
lasers & blasters? vs 1.1 Phasers
1.2 Pulse cannons
1.3 Phase cannons
1.4 Phase pistols
1.5 Phased polaron cannon
1.6 Disruptors
1.7 Varon-T disruptors
1.8 Lasers
1.9 Electric Whip
2 Projectile weapons
2.1 Photon torpedoes
2.2 Chroniton torpedoes
2.3 Polaron torpedoes
2.4 Gravimetric torpedoes
2.5 Plasma torpedo
2.6 Quantum torpedoes
2.7 Spatial torpedoes
2.8 Transphasic torpedoes
2.9 Phased plasma torpedoes
2.10 Positron torpedoes
2.11 Isokinetic cannon
2.12 TR-116 Projectile Rifle
3 Biological, radioactive, and chemical weapons
3.1 Thalaron radiation
3.2 Metreon cascade
3.3 Trilithium resin
3.4 Cobalt diselenide
3.5 Aceton assimilators
4 Melee weapons
4.1 Federation
4.1.1 KaBar combat knife
4.1.2 Katana
4.2 Jem'Hadar
4.2.1 Bayonet
4.2.2 Kar'takin
4.3 Klingon
4.3.1 Bat'leth
4.3.2 D'k tahg
4.3.3 Qutluch
4.3.4 Mek'leth
4.4 Romulan
4.4.1 Teral'n
4.5 Vulcan
4.5.1 Lirpa
4.5.2 Ahn'woon
4.6 Other
4.6.1 Ushaan-tor
4.6.2 Mortaes and Thongs
4.6.3 Glavin?
star wars sucks
I sure would like to see Armored Voyager make pancakes out of the star destr-
oh wait never mind just saw it.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=star%20trek%20legacy%20voyager%20vs%20star%20destroyer&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DttOXbVwoFiI&ei=Zx0UUcaNFonWygGs64DgCw&usg=AFQjCNF0rqsit3Au-9qnSh3TiVUwyWMllg&bvm=bv.42080656,d.eWU
Okay that's just stupid, copying a list of weapons is incredibly silly, that's not even including the fact that if you did the same from the SW wikia you would end up with far more, maybe several 100.
Besides lists are not a reason by themselves;)
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Super laser not laser, and it destroys planets and is encased in a moon sized battlestation that has an engine that enables it to travel across the whole galaxy faster than it would take a Fed ship to travel across a bit of a quadrant, oh and armour and shielding that means an entire Rebel Fleet couldn't take it out.
(Unless the commander was a moron with an external shield)
Yup primitive:D
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.
I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I actually liked Space 1999 too. I have the first season on DVD. Insane premise, (moon blown out of orbit by a nuclear explosion) but I thought it was a good show, at least the first season.
So yeah... I think Wars wins in a "whose fans can debate better?" debate.
Comparing sci-fi characters/tech to each other can bee a silly argument, but I have to agree with you on this one. The borg would easily defeat the death star.
...and Hyperspace is much faster than warp (whatever).
...and starships in SW have mechanical parts instead of colored displays with pictures of stuff.
...and leia's bikini is hotter than 7of9's bodysuit.
...and fighters in SW are a threat.
...and people grow and eat stuff in SW as opposed to eating food suppliment 47 from a replicator.
...and SW has more driods.
...and SW ships all use cannons.
...and dirt or burn marks on your ship in SW give it character.
...and lightsabers deflect energy better than shields.
...and Trek is devoid of any higher power where SW has the force.
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Considering it uses the "small ships can't have cloaks" thing, it obviously doesn't include ships such as the TIE Phantom... a ship created for a game released in 1995.
Also, Wars has a way of detecting cloaked vessels: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crystal_gravfield_trap
Bear in mind that is 3 quotes from the OP, don't you be painting all us Trekkies with the same brush now
Partially because the site dismisses most licensed works other than the official movie novelizations as "non-canon" despite the current official state of SW canon including most such works except when explicitly overridden by "higher-canon" material.
Also, they seem to not quite realize what strategic weapons are. The Death Star is the epitome of a strategic weapon... one that the Empire hoped they only had to fire once (and then twice...). TIE Bombers are tactical weapons, like the torpedo planes from WWII.
Oh my goodness! every time a topicc like this has been made there is always some noob (you) that trys there very best to defend star wars!