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  • distantworldsdistantworlds Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I've got the Mk XII and the set bonus is +8.8 Auxiliary. I've heard/seen different amounts posted, but could never get consensus on the value. It must scale with Mark.

    So let's see, Tactical Readiness:

    Mk X = 7.5
    Mk XI = ???
    Mk XII = 8.8

    Anyone have the KHG Mk XI set?

    Even once I get the info, that's going to be a pain to implement, but I'll see what I can do.

    >contemplative frown<
    Two piece Mk XI set is +8.1 to aux
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Two piece Mk XI set is +8.1 to aux
    Excellent, thank you for the info.

    As I mentioned, it will take some doing to get this variable added, but I'll do what I can.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    On the calculations page... E20 reads =IF(AC9="Yes",5,0) when it should read =IF(AC14="Yes",5,0). As it stands now, now selecting the Assimilated Engines no engine power bonus is added. Changing it to AC14 corrects this.
    "I'm not big on telepaths myself. I'm not big on guns either. But if everyone else has them, I want to make sure I can get my hands on the biggest one I can."
  • pontiac76pontiac76 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I hate to break it to you man, but, you've just trumped out every other "tuning" site I've ever looked at. You've made a lot of enemies, I'm sure. {smirk}

    GJ.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    pontiac76 wrote: »
    I hate to break it to you man, but, you've just trumped out every other "tuning" site I've ever looked at. You've made a lot of enemies, I'm sure. {smirk}
    It's very kind of you to say (I think? :rolleyes: lol). I'm not sure how many enemies I've made... I've had the Power Calc up for years now... Maybe they're just too afraid of my infallible glory!
    sohtoh wrote: »
    On the calculations page... E20 reads =IF(AC9="Yes",5,0) when it should read =IF(AC14="Yes",5,0). As it stands now, now selecting the Assimilated Engines no engine power bonus is added. Changing it to AC14 corrects this.
    Excuse you, Sohtoh, you must be mistaken, cuz clearly, I can't be. I've got infallible glory on my side, see above. :P

    Heh. Sorry about that. I'll make a fix soon... It won't be today, and probably not tomorrow. I don't have access to my source files for a couple days, and there's a new version beyond what's posted in the OP. I've added the new Romulan Vet ships and the ability to input your Mark level on the Tactical Readiness passive. I'll add in this bug fix and post the updated Calc probably sometime Wed/Thr.

    Thanks everyone!

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • lex0001lex0001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Very helpful :cool:

    thanks
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lex0001 wrote: »
    Very helpful :cool:

    thanks
    You're welcome.

    :)

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    New Version now available!

    Release Notes:

    STOPowerCalc.xls v8.3.00 (LoR):
    - Added Mark selection option to properly set Tactical Readiness Power bonus.
    - Added stats for Romulan Veteran ships:
    * Commander's Gig, Daeinos Heavy Destroyer (Regen and Tactical Modes).
    - Modified Ship Listing text for KDF Vet ship (Peghqu' Regen and Tactical Modes).
    - Fixed a couple spelling errors.
    - Fixed a bug that prevented the power display for the Assimilated Engines.
    - Updated Warp Core notes to include reference to Fleet Cores.

    Enjoy!

    :)

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • xtern1tyxtern1ty Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    A very useful tool for both pro players and the casual STO gamer alike to help refine their build. Thanks for sharing your work and continuing to maintain it. May you continue to do so for future ships and updates. Best of luck!
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    xtern1ty wrote: »
    A very useful tool for both pro players and the casual STO gamer alike to help refine their build. Thanks for sharing your work and continuing to maintain it. May you continue to do so for future ships and updates. Best of luck!
    Thanks for the compliments and you're more than welcome. I actually, really enjoy tinkering in Excel on so complicated a spreadsheet. Heh. As for keeping it updated into the future, that's the plan. For instance...


    New Version now available!

    Release Notes:

    STOPowerCalc.xls v8.3.01 (LoR):
    - Added stats for Romulan Temporal ships:
    * R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel and Talvath Temporal Destroyer
    - Modified a couple formulae to account for more Romulan ships with MAM Cores.

    How's that for service!?!

    :D

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • bitovabitova Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Just down loaded 8.3.1

    seems many of the custom power modifiers are "broken"

    Cells C 34, C35, C37, C38 have now become Yes/No pulldowns (not a data figure entry)

    Same with K5,K6,K7,K8 and K12,K13,K14,K15

    if a choice of yes or no is selected the game displays (blue boxes) show errors
  • captainbaileycaptainbailey Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    its asking me for a Adapted Maco/KHG mark set value but in the drop down box there are no values to choose from.

    Also, when I put in all 3 pieces of my adapted maco set im not seeing a +8.8 to aux set bonus in the calculator. in the game im at 59 aux power and in excel it has me at 51 and its showing only 1.8 set bonus
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bitova wrote: »
    seems many of the custom power modifiers are "broken"

    Cells C 34, C35, C37, C38 have now become Yes/No pulldowns (not a data figure entry)

    Same with K5,K6,K7,K8 and K12,K13,K14,K15
    That's very strange. I just took a look at 8.3.01 and I don't see any issues with the cells you're describing.

    Here's what I'm seeing:
    http://i.imgur.com/Mw3BkXn.jpg
    its asking me for a Adapted Maco/KHG mark set value but in the drop down box there are no values to choose from...
    Another strange one, as again, I'm not finding any problems on my end, to wit, here's what I'm seeing in those fields:

    http://i.imgur.com/T65Eacr.jpg
    ...Also, when I put in all 3 pieces of my adapted maco set im not seeing a +8.8 to aux set bonus in the calculator. in the game im at 59 aux power and in excel it has me at 51 and its showing only 1.8 set bonus
    The Calc doesn't know what buff to grant for Tactical Readiness until you select a Mark level for your Adapted MACO set. Once you enter "Mk XII" into D31 (from what should be a drop down, or you can type it in) you'll get the +8.8. The +1.8 is probably from a Zero-Point Energy Console, have you got one of these selected?

    Bitova and CaptainBaily, I re-saved my copy of 8.3.01 that I pictured above as working, and labeling it as a "re-release" version, I republished it. Please redownload this copy and see if you're fixed. If not, can you post screenshots of what you're seeing, along with your version of Windows and Excel?

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • bitovabitova Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bitova wrote: »
    I'm using latest version of OpenOffice...
    Ah. The last OO I tested was v3.4.1 (back in Feb 2013), and the Calc worked great back then, but you're using (checks OO's site), OO v4?

    Did you use any versions of the Calc prior to v8.3.01, and did those work in OO v4? I'm just wondering what may have changed to cause the breakage. Was it something in the Calc, or something in OO...

    Anyway, I'll try to find time to download OO v4 and tinker with the Calc there, to see if I can find/fix the problem. :(

    ETA: I just retested OO v3.4.1 that I have on my PC still and Calc v8.3.01 works fine. I'll download OO v4 and see what's changed.

    ETA: After installing OO v4, I have confirmed Bitova's problem. OO v4 puts validation on the cells you're having problems with (C34-38, K5-8, K12-15). I also noticed strange artifacting on the screen, specifically with regards to the sheet's formatting (borders and such).

    Sadly it appears that the Calc is not fully compatible with Open Office v4.0. I have updated the notes in the OP regarding this.

    Using OO v4 I was unable to duplicate CaptainBaily problem with the Adapted MACO set, that worked fine for me. So his issue may be unrelated.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ...After installing OO v4... I also noticed strange artifacting on the screen, specifically with regards to the sheet's formatting (borders and such)...
    Well this problem at least seems to be affecting others:
    http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=63161

    People report downgrading back to v3.4.1 solved their graphics issue.

    Still researching...

    ETA: Ok, after performing several Google searches and also checking the OO forums, and I don't see anyone else reporting issues with validations being added to non-validated cells in Excel. I don't have access to the OO forums to post there about this issue (and no interest at this time to create an account). If you're an OO v4 user, I suggest posting about the problem. Their spreadsheet program is adding non-existant "Validation" to cells from an Excel sheet. Feel free to link them to my Power Calc.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • bitovabitova Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Thanks for all the debug work Lordhaverlock ..

    I also understand your position re the time / effort to "fix and then ongoing support" your spreadsheet on what equates to "another environment"

    In answer to your Q "what may have changed" I had (have) been using STOPowerCalc.xls vLOR.2.00 (LoR) which works fine with OO 4.0.0

    Thanks again for looking into it
  • bitovabitova Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bitova wrote: »
    Thanks for all the debug work Lordhaverlock ..

    I also understand your position re the time / effort to "fix and then ongoing support" your spreadsheet on what equates to "another environment"

    In answer to your Q "what may have changed" I had (have) been using STOPowerCalc.xls vLOR.2.00 (LoR) which works fine with OO 4.0.0

    Thanks again for looking into it

    Correction LOR.2.00 does not work with OO 4.0.0 .. however its "broke" in different ways, in that list values in the calculation tabs have been "lost / randomly changed " ... yup looks like a downgrade to a previous OO version is needed :eek:
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bitova wrote: »
    ...I also understand your position re the time / effort to "fix and then ongoing support" your spreadsheet on what equates to "another environment"...
    Thanks for understanding. Yeah, this spreadsheet was only created for my own use, but seemed suitable for others, so I've shared it. And since I continue to use it for myself, I keep it updated, even adding whatever features I reasonably can that others have requested. I don't get paid to do this (I even tried adding one of those PayPal Donate links for about a year, not a dime, despite thousands of downloads :rolleyes:). I'm not bitter. Just saying.
    bitova wrote: »
    ...yup looks like a downgrade to a previous OO version is needed :eek:
    Unless there's anyone out there that wants to Champion for Open Office 4 and work with their community to help discover more about/resolve this "bug", then yes, if you're wanting to use OO for my Power Calc, that appears to be the only solution.

    ETA: I've updated the OP and FAQ with the status of Open Office.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    New Version now available!

    Release Notes:

    STOPowerCalc.xls v8.3.04 (LoR):
    - Added stats for Elachi Lockbox ships:
    * Elachi S'golth Escort and Elachi Monbosh Battleship.
    - Added Tetryon-Plasma Impulse Engines-S stats (from Yellowstone Runabout).


    Enjoy!

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    This looks like a great resource and I'm just about to dig into it but I have a quick question.

    Why are you bothering to zip it up? It's just an excel file, and it's not very big - can't you just upload it as a 400kb .xls instead of an 80kb zip? Even if it's downloaded 100,000 times that's a nominal amount of bandwidth realistically :P
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    topset wrote: »
    This looks like a great resource and I'm just about to dig into it...
    Thanks! I've seen your work/posts about the forums and tend to agree with/respect your opinions. I hope you find my offerings useful, and I look forward to your dug-in thoughts. :)
    topset wrote: »
    ...Why are you bothering to zip it up?

    From the Post 2 FAQ:
    * Why zip-up the file?
    I host the file on my own page. I find that if I leave it as an xls file, some people have trouble getting it to download properly. Zipping it up resolved that issue.

    :D

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • unheard1978unheard1978 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    HI lordhavelock
    thank you for all making this. great sto tool.


    also I haven't updated my openoffice.
    but just want to say the Tal Shiar Adapted Borg is not showing up after I select Special Cross-faction and any tal ship.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    HI lordhavelock
    thank you for all making this. great sto tool.


    also I haven't updated my openoffice.
    but just want to say the Tal Shiar Adapted Borg is not showing up after I select Special Cross-faction and any tal ship.
    You're welcome. Sorry about the bug. It's been squashed.

    New Version now available!

    Release Notes:

    STOPowerCalc.xls v8.3.05 (LoR):
    - Fixed bug that prevented Tal Shiar Adapted Warp Core from showing for Adapted ships.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • unheard1978unheard1978 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I cant extract the file :( I get an error telling me the file is broken
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    When I orginally submitted the update today I did test it. I was able to download it and open the zip. I always try it before posting that the update is there.

    Not sure why you couldn't open the file, but I just created a new archive (zip), and after some technical difficulties with my FTP to GoDaddy (resolved), I was able to connect in, deleted the file that was there, and re-uploaded.

    I tried downloading and opening the zip and it's working for me. Please advise if you're now able to extract the Calc.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • unheard1978unheard1978 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    its all working great now thank you,
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    its all working great now thank you,
    Woot! That's good to hear.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Great stuff mate, really helps with putting you over the top when using AMP. Great run in CSE too.

    The only thing that I could fathom that would make it better would be to add a sub calculator that deals with how the Leech works in detail. Personally I just threw 9 pts in and grabbed an elite deflector and it works okay for me.
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Great stuff mate, really helps with putting you over the top when using AMP. Great run in CSE too.

    The only thing that I could fathom that would make it better would be to add a sub calculator that deals with how the Leech works in detail. Personally I just threw 9 pts in and grabbed an elite deflector and it works okay for me.
    That was indeed a fantastic CSE run, probably close to a personal record time... MASS CARNAGE!!!

    lol

    Your kind words to me in-game were quite gratifying, so thank you for that!

    I'm jealous of your Amp access. Alas, my Fleet hasn't progressed far enough to get the Elite Warp Cores (I think we've got about another month to get there). I know I'll be using my Calc to help achieve Amp success, too! :D

    As for Plasmonic Leech, I assume you're referring to 9 points in Flow Capacitors skill. The higher that skill is, the more you can absorb. That's true. I've got a toon with 99 FC skill (Level 9) and she gets about 2pts of power per Leech stack (so +30 when at full stacks). I've never bothered with less than FC level 9 on a Leech character because it's a cheap Tier 1 skill. I've another character with Leech, in a Vo'Quv, and he's got over 200 skill (99 + 4x Sci Consoles). I can't remember his exact skill number, nor his buff, at the moment.

    I'll see what I can do about working out a Leech "sub-calc"... I'll need to figure out the formula though. Watch this thread for updates.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
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