Not willing to sacrifice anything myself, the Galaxy is THE Federation ship, it is iconic, it is fundamental to StarTrek and for some reason known only to Cryptic it has been severely ignored in just about every way possible since launch. The Galaxy-X is a better ship all round but as a dreadnought it sucks and is only good on extremely specific roles in PvP aka the Sir Lance A Lot build, decloak, Lance and flee.
Drunk's three pack is what's needed, a complete interior and a totally updated Galaxy-X for PvP.
As this thread is one of the largest in the forums with hundreds of different individual contributors, it just goes to show that Cryptic have no intention of satisfying the player's wishes.
It is for me the most disappointing aspect of STO. For PvE both ships work ok but nothing like as good as almost any other ship in the game. For PvP then forget it unless you like making a zombie cruiser or a Lancing Alpha Striker, and even the latter is hindered by a Lt Tac station and a very inaccurate Lance with much lower power than the Javelin.
I feel like giving up, but as long as you guys are on here plugging away for something to be done I'll read and contribute some. Perhaps it's time to email Mr Stahl directly with our wishes?
I fully agree with you, at all points.
I know how you feel, without getting any attention by Cryptic or any dev, our cause can be quite frustrating.
But giving up is not a alternative for me.
This is how i see it.
Cryptic hates the GCS and most TNG stuff. But that's no reason for them to punish everyone else who disagrees with them.
They are a company and they need money, they just can't ignore the fact that (since they are making a Star Trek game) they have to deal with us Star Trek fans, not everyone are some MMO players who want to have the strongest ship all the time, no matter if it fits to Star Trek or not.
I belive they are (hopefully) professional enough to release a alternative GCS, even is no dev at cryptic likes that ship or what it stands for, they are making that game for US not themselves.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
I never said that the Galaxy was on par 100% with other Tier 5 vessels.
yes you did not said that.
you, however, question the idea that this ship need a overhaul under the fact that, as you state: "the ship (as it stands now) works in all other instances. Or, at the very least, squeaks by."
in wich i responde to you, in essence, that it not because a ship "work" in any pve instance of the game that it is good to claim the "rank" of a tier5 cstore ship, obviously.
or, as i said it before, some connie player could said that there ship is as good as a tier 5 ship.
And you do not evaluate a ship in this game solely through the more challenging instances either.
sorry, but i fail to see how you can evaluate the maximum capabilities of a ship in any given roles on unchallenging content.
how can you precisely evaluate the maximum tanking potential of your ship if your enemie is not good enought to kill you with just 1 EPTS?
if he don't force you to re evaluate every skillpoint allocation of your build, every gears, bo power and tactics to survive longer, kill better, or simply be a more efficient healer?
if you are not force to get the most out of your ship, you will not be able to see it full potential, pratice is alway better than theory.
and an enemie or content that is not forcing you to get the most out of your ship will fail to show you the true limits of your ship.
calculation and theory can only show it to a degree, you can only really apreciate it by pratice.
The general argument is that the Galaxy is completely useless. I refuted that.
no that is not the general argument, because if it were, i would have refuted it as well.
the galaxy is not completely useless, it is just the less efficient cstore ship in the game.
and that is good enought to make it a crappy ship.
However, I did not refute that the Galaxy is not a good choice in some venues. As it stands now, that much is true.
and in fact, if we speak about choices, there is no " venues" where this ship would be a better choice than any other tiers 5 ship ( cstore or not ).
The C-Store Galaxy has only one Ensign Engineer Boff position. The other two are Lt. Commander and Commander.
it is not because the 2 other engi station are commander and lt commander that they don't carry en ensign engi in it.
so that make a total of 3 ensign engi slot to fill, wich, as everyone known by now, are the power that share too many cooldown with eatch other and even with the science and tactical one ( tactical team/ science team/ engie team )
And one free ship out of dozens being "better" than the Galaxy Retrofit doesn't make it a complete waste
it is not the quantitie that matter here, it is the principle.
because you don't find that kind of figure for any other federation cstore ship.
the fact that even 1 "free" ship is better than a cstore ship is already something uncoherent with cryptic business model.
but something no one seem to care because, you known, it is just a galaxy.
And comparison to the Excelsior C-Store upgrade isn't relevant because it's better than just about any cruiser in it's class.
i don't known where you see me comparing the galaxy retrofit to the exelsior?
But to say that it is a real stinker as is would be a faulty conclusion.
we enter here in the subjectiv domain, what is a real stinker for you? for me?
well, for me anyway i considering calling a ship a real stinker if this one is the last i would choose to play any content efficiently.
and in that particular view i don't think i would be the only one to call it a real stinker.
but thank god, this game is not alway about being the most efficient, it is also about having fun with the ship you like.
too bad that this fun part is being degrading by the ship general performances.
I just came up with an idea. And I volunteer to do most of the grunt work for this.
Forum signatures. They're one of the most eye-catching parts of the forum. People look at them and read/see the contents. And they remember pictures far more often than words.
I propose a movement. It's not a petition or a rebellion or anything, it's a simple silent declaration. All it requires of each of you is to give up your forum signature, at least for a little while.
I propose the "wearing" of forum signatures that encourage a change in the Galaxy-class.
For example, there would be a picture of the Enterprise-D from the series in the background. Text on the top and bottom would say, "My name is stardestroyer001, and I support a revamped Exploration Cruiser". Your name and/or handle would be placed there, and you can choose colours and fonts for your name.
If we got enough people to do this, I'm sure people would start noticing - especially when it is uniform (except for the names).
I just came up with an idea. And I volunteer to do most of the grunt work for this.
Forum signatures. They're one of the most eye-catching parts of the forum. People look at them and read/see the contents. And they remember pictures far more often than words.
I propose a movement. It's not a petition or a rebellion or anything, it's a simple silent declaration. All it requires of each of you is to give up your forum signature, at least for a little while.
I propose the "wearing" of forum signatures that encourage a change in the Galaxy-class.
For example, there would be a picture of the Enterprise-D from the series in the background. Text on the top and bottom would say, "My name is stardestroyer001, and I support a revamped Exploration Cruiser". Your name and/or handle would be placed there, and you can choose colours and fonts for your name.
If we got enough people to do this, I'm sure people would start noticing - especially when it is uniform (except for the names).
I like it and am willing to put it on my sig. Though seeing as ive been to lazy to make a sig not so big of a deal for me lol. But maybe others will be willing also and get some attention to the devs we atleast like to hear if they have any intention of changing fixing or revamping the GCS.
I think any signature related to this thread and about a better GCS is helpful, as long as there is a big Galaxy Class pictured on it.
Additionally i think a link to dontdrunkimshoots enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack should be added too, since it is THE best sollution for a alternative GCS.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
A Carrier with unique Type 7 Shuttlecraft.
Commander Science
Subsystem Targeting
3 Weapons fore and aft.
Ability to equip Galaxy-R consoles.
Unique console: phasing cloak: can phase out of the normal space-time continuum. Cannot fire weapons while under phasing cloak. Cannot engage phasing cloak in combat. While under phasing cloak, ship can pass through small objects such as asteroids and other ships. No abilities can pull ship out of phasing cloak or detect ship while under phasing cloak.
A Carrier with unique Type 7 Shuttlecraft.
Commander Science
Subsystem Targeting
3 Weapons fore and aft.
Ability to equip Galaxy-R consoles.
Unique console: phasing cloak: can phase out of the normal space-time continuum. Cannot fire weapons while under phasing cloak. Cannot engage phasing cloak in combat. While under phasing cloak, ship can pass through small objects such as asteroids and other ships. No abilities can pull ship out of phasing cloak or detect ship while under phasing cloak.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I'm sure its been suggested already, but here is my thought, and its pretty easy I think...
1. Change ensign eng slot to universal
2. Bump turn rate from 6 to 7
3. Add Beam Overload as a built-in ability (in addition to the separation console) - 90 sec CD, but only usable while not separated. If separated, the saucer section uses the ability
Regardless of what suggestions are considered the best, I fully agree that the Gal-R needs something too... so slow that bandwagon down so I can jump on it!
I think any signature related to this thread and about a better GCS is helpful, as long as there is a big Galaxy Class pictured on it.
Additionally i think a link to dontdrunkimshoots enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack should be added too, since it is THE best sollution for a alternative GCS.
Well what each person could do is add this into their signature:
stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9 My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
thats if the forum actually allows image links. often this functionality is disabled to prevent people posting TRIBBLE or other acts of trolling.
Yes, thanks for the alternate brackets
The forum does allow a forum signature (not exceeding 500x150 pixels). As to "explicit content", well I know the Galaxy looks damned sexy and all... LOL
stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9 My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
yea, but arent those images are going through the sites built in banner link, rather than manually created link in the text entry?
anyway, id use the borg fight. about the only time we see picoward order weapons to be fired in a determined/meaningful way, even if it was only to let him run away the second he had the upper hand.:rolleyes:
i hate that character...
I'll be downloading those pictures and adding in the text, resizing, etc. (Similar to my current forum signature. Adding text and stuff, except polishing it.)
Borg fight, cool. I'll see what I can do.
stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9 My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
Giving such a ship the least firepower of all cruisers, just show that the devs deliberately ignored everything about it for whatever reason.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
Giving such a ship the least firepower of all cruisers, just show that the devs deliberately ignored everything about it for whatever reason.
I just recently noted that even it's predecessors (Excelsior Class, Ambassador Class) have three tac consoles and thus more damage potential. The GCS is really just another payskin for Cryptic's "Star Cruiser" - with a worse BOFF layout due to the overlapping cooldowns with three ensign abilities in engineering
At least bringing it en-par with these two ships should be a viable option.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I'll be downloading those pictures and adding in the text, resizing, etc. (Similar to my current forum signature. Adding text and stuff, except polishing it.)
Borg fight, cool. I'll see what I can do.
I think in order to make it obvious we should have a common topic for the various GCS signature pictures.
OT: i think it's a shame that the best documented ship in Star Trek history has been made so utterly wrong by Cryptics devs.
I just recently noted that even it's predecessors (Excelsior Class, Ambassador Class) have three tac consoles and thus more damage potential. ...
It's a shame, isn't it?
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
Q: Why does this ship work differently from others in the game?
A: We are using the Lock Box to release starships that normally could not be put into the game or the C-Store because it would not be IP appropriate to have them widely available. Rather than simply not have them in the game, we are using this alternate way to make something special available to the player base.
So the Lock Boxes are a way to release ships that wouldn't be "IP appropriate" in Cryptics eyes. Over powered ships like the Dominion Dreadnought, Dominion Escort/Carrier/Battleship- thing and the new Elachi ships have a chance to get into the game but a freaking simple Galaxy Class does not?
Even if the GCS as dontdrunkimshoot enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack wouldn't be correct in the first place, it still could find a way into the game IF cryptics devs wanted to?
Was there ANY thread of people asking for elachi ships in the first place?
Anyone asking for a much to powerful Galor or D'Kora class before they where released?
They even released the Vesta PLUS variants (and did a AWESOME job with it), because some people wanted it, but a enormous iconic ship like the Galaxy Class gets ignored?
What's the problem Cryptics devs have with this ship in the first place?
Are they making this game for themselves or US?
Sorry, i just don't get it.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
So the Lock Boxes are a way to release ships that wouldn't be "IP appropriate" in Cryptics eyes. Over powered ships like the Dominion Dreadnought, Dominion Escort/Carrier/Battleship- thing and the new Elachi ships have a chance to get into the game but a freaking simple Galaxy Class does not?
Even if the GCS as dontdrunkimshoot enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack wouldn't be correct in the first place, it still could find a way into the game IF cryptics devs wanted to?
Was there ANY thread of people asking for elachi ships in the first place?
Anyone asking for a much to powerful Galor or D'Kora class before they where released?
They even released the Vesta PLUS variants (and did a AWESOME job with it), because some people wanted it, but a enormous iconic ship like the Galaxy Class gets ignored?
What's the problem Cryptics devs have with this ship in the first place?
Are they making this game for themselves or US?
Sorry, i just don't get it.
Games are always made based on the developers, writers etc... point of view... This is how art works. You only make terrible things when you try to make it for someone else.
I just recently noted that even it's predecessors (Excelsior Class, Ambassador Class) have three tac consoles and thus more damage potential. The GCS is really just another payskin for Cryptic's "Star Cruiser" - with a worse BOFF layout due to the overlapping cooldowns with three ensign abilities in engineering
AND!!!! less turnrate, the star cruiser got 7, the galaxy 6...
So the Lock Boxes are a way to release ships that wouldn't be "IP appropriate" in Cryptics eyes.
they apparently don't need lock box to release ship that are not IP appropriate.
the galaxy class in this game, who is less powerfull, flexible, adaptable than exelsior, ambassador, galor, or a simple BOP make it very IP inappropriate to me.
by the way, have you notice that every new lockbox or cstore cruiser ship got more and more turn rate?
Games are always made based on the developers, writers etc... point of view... This is how art works. You only make terrible things when you try to make it for someone else.
Or if the developer themselves have terrible ideas about how certain things work.
they apparently don't need lock box to release ship that are not IP appropriate.
the galaxy class in this game, who is less powerfull, flexible, adaptable than exelsior, ambassador, galor, or a simple BOP make it very IP inappropriate to me.
by the way, have you notice that every new lockbox or cstore cruiser ship got more and more turn rate?
but no heavy engie layout for them, nor a significant hull and shield reduction
Yeah, it's almost as if they where noticing what kind of ship (BOFF/Console layout) people want. But in the meantime the GCS get ignored...
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
I think in order to make it obvious we should have a common topic for the various GCS signature pictures.
I will be making several signature pictures. All of them will have the exact same starship picture. The only differences would be your forum/handle names, which will be custom made for you.
(Unless of course, people want to choose between different pictures. In that case, I'll have to see what templates can be made to choose from)
Regardless, the common topic would be the text. For example, "My name is ______ and I support a revamped Exploration Cruiser". No bias, no protest, just encouragement.
stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9 My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
So, it seems the next giveaway will be the Gal-R - maybe because they are planning something? At least it will get the ship in a broad focus again.
Actually I was hoping for the Nebula, but today they already had the Rhode Island as a freebie, I think it won't be another science vessel. And I could not for the life of mine think of a reason they should hand out the Defiant Retrofit.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
So, it seems the next giveaway will be the Gal-R - maybe because they are planning something? At least it will get the ship in a broad focus again.
Actually I was hoping for the Nebula, but today they already had the Rhode Island as a freebie, I think it won't be another science vessel. And I could not for the life of mine think of a reason they should hand out the Defiant Retrofit.
Given the recent elachi lock box's appearance and apparent science focus of it's contents (a escort with 4 sci e 4 tacs and a ground trait optimal for everyone but especially on a sci), i wouldn't 100% exclude the possibility of the nebula being gave away.
If coincidences say anything, I'd bet on the Nebula (the standard one) and either the gorn draguas OR the vor'kang (the klink ship with the isometric charge module).
If instead they give away nothing on the klingon side, well....
So, it seems the next giveaway will be the Gal-R - maybe because they are planning something? At least it will get the ship in a broad focus again.
Actually I was hoping for the Nebula, but today they already had the Rhode Island as a freebie, I think it won't be another science vessel. And I could not for the life of mine think of a reason they should hand out the Defiant Retrofit.
Do you know that for sure?
IF they really give away the Gal -R for free today, i think they want to test if more people are unhappy with the Galaxy -R, then just those "few" GCS fans here in this thread.
On the other hand, it would be foolish for them to release a unchanged Galaxy -R, if they would have had at least payed some attention to this thread.
So in my opinion we can directly deduce if they where reading this thread.
If they just release the unchanged Galaxy - R and no one (aside from us) cares about it, no additional threads in the forum about how terrible this ships BOFF/console Layout is, i think we can clearly abandon the hope for a reworked ship forever.
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--"
- (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
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I fully agree with you, at all points.
I know how you feel, without getting any attention by Cryptic or any dev, our cause can be quite frustrating.
But giving up is not a alternative for me.
This is how i see it.
Cryptic hates the GCS and most TNG stuff. But that's no reason for them to punish everyone else who disagrees with them.
They are a company and they need money, they just can't ignore the fact that (since they are making a Star Trek game) they have to deal with us Star Trek fans, not everyone are some MMO players who want to have the strongest ship all the time, no matter if it fits to Star Trek or not.
I belive they are (hopefully) professional enough to release a alternative GCS, even is no dev at cryptic likes that ship or what it stands for, they are making that game for US not themselves.
yes you did not said that.
you, however, question the idea that this ship need a overhaul under the fact that, as you state: "the ship (as it stands now) works in all other instances. Or, at the very least, squeaks by."
in wich i responde to you, in essence, that it not because a ship "work" in any pve instance of the game that it is good to claim the "rank" of a tier5 cstore ship, obviously.
or, as i said it before, some connie player could said that there ship is as good as a tier 5 ship.
sorry, but i fail to see how you can evaluate the maximum capabilities of a ship in any given roles on unchallenging content.
how can you precisely evaluate the maximum tanking potential of your ship if your enemie is not good enought to kill you with just 1 EPTS?
if he don't force you to re evaluate every skillpoint allocation of your build, every gears, bo power and tactics to survive longer, kill better, or simply be a more efficient healer?
if you are not force to get the most out of your ship, you will not be able to see it full potential, pratice is alway better than theory.
and an enemie or content that is not forcing you to get the most out of your ship will fail to show you the true limits of your ship.
calculation and theory can only show it to a degree, you can only really apreciate it by pratice.
no that is not the general argument, because if it were, i would have refuted it as well.
the galaxy is not completely useless, it is just the less efficient cstore ship in the game.
and that is good enought to make it a crappy ship.
and in fact, if we speak about choices, there is no " venues" where this ship would be a better choice than any other tiers 5 ship ( cstore or not ).
this is the cstore galaxy:http://sto.gamepedia.com/Exploration_Cruiser_Retrofit
it is not because the 2 other engi station are commander and lt commander that they don't carry en ensign engi in it.
so that make a total of 3 ensign engi slot to fill, wich, as everyone known by now, are the power that share too many cooldown with eatch other and even with the science and tactical one ( tactical team/ science team/ engie team )
it is not the quantitie that matter here, it is the principle.
because you don't find that kind of figure for any other federation cstore ship.
the fact that even 1 "free" ship is better than a cstore ship is already something uncoherent with cryptic business model.
but something no one seem to care because, you known, it is just a galaxy.
i don't known where you see me comparing the galaxy retrofit to the exelsior?
we enter here in the subjectiv domain, what is a real stinker for you? for me?
well, for me anyway i considering calling a ship a real stinker if this one is the last i would choose to play any content efficiently.
and in that particular view i don't think i would be the only one to call it a real stinker.
but thank god, this game is not alway about being the most efficient, it is also about having fun with the ship you like.
too bad that this fun part is being degrading by the ship general performances.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
i like that idea too
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
I like it and am willing to put it on my sig. Though seeing as ive been to lazy to make a sig not so big of a deal for me lol. But maybe others will be willing also and get some attention to the devs we atleast like to hear if they have any intention of changing fixing or revamping the GCS.
Additionally i think a link to dontdrunkimshoots enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack should be added too, since it is THE best sollution for a alternative GCS.
Galaxy Fleet Refit:
A Carrier with unique Type 7 Shuttlecraft.
Commander Science
Subsystem Targeting
3 Weapons fore and aft.
Ability to equip Galaxy-R consoles.
Unique console: phasing cloak: can phase out of the normal space-time continuum. Cannot fire weapons while under phasing cloak. Cannot engage phasing cloak in combat. While under phasing cloak, ship can pass through small objects such as asteroids and other ships. No abilities can pull ship out of phasing cloak or detect ship while under phasing cloak.
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1. Change ensign eng slot to universal
2. Bump turn rate from 6 to 7
3. Add Beam Overload as a built-in ability (in addition to the separation console) - 90 sec CD, but only usable while not separated. If separated, the saucer section uses the ability
Regardless of what suggestions are considered the best, I fully agree that the Gal-R needs something too... so slow that bandwagon down so I can jump on it!
Well what each person could do is add this into their signature:
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC][slash URL]
Once the signature has been uploaded, that would make the signature clickable which could take them directly to that page.
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Yes, thanks for the alternate brackets
The forum does allow a forum signature (not exceeding 500x150 pixels). As to "explicit content", well I know the Galaxy looks damned sexy and all... LOL
EDIT: I'm thinking this picture, this one, or this picture.
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I'll be downloading those pictures and adding in the text, resizing, etc. (Similar to my current forum signature. Adding text and stuff, except polishing it.)
Borg fight, cool. I'll see what I can do.
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9
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Giving such a ship the least firepower of all cruisers, just show that the devs deliberately ignored everything about it for whatever reason.
I just recently noted that even it's predecessors (Excelsior Class, Ambassador Class) have three tac consoles and thus more damage potential. The GCS is really just another payskin for Cryptic's "Star Cruiser" - with a worse BOFF layout due to the overlapping cooldowns with three ensign abilities in engineering
At least bringing it en-par with these two ships should be a viable option.
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I think in order to make it obvious we should have a common topic for the various GCS signature pictures.
OT: i think it's a shame that the best documented ship in Star Trek history has been made so utterly wrong by Cryptics devs.
It's a shame, isn't it?
So the Lock Boxes are a way to release ships that wouldn't be "IP appropriate" in Cryptics eyes. Over powered ships like the Dominion Dreadnought, Dominion Escort/Carrier/Battleship- thing and the new Elachi ships have a chance to get into the game but a freaking simple Galaxy Class does not?
Even if the GCS as dontdrunkimshoot enhanced exploration cruiser retrofit 3 pack wouldn't be correct in the first place, it still could find a way into the game IF cryptics devs wanted to?
Was there ANY thread of people asking for elachi ships in the first place?
Anyone asking for a much to powerful Galor or D'Kora class before they where released?
They even released the Vesta PLUS variants (and did a AWESOME job with it), because some people wanted it, but a enormous iconic ship like the Galaxy Class gets ignored?
What's the problem Cryptics devs have with this ship in the first place?
Are they making this game for themselves or US?
Sorry, i just don't get it.
Games are always made based on the developers, writers etc... point of view... This is how art works. You only make terrible things when you try to make it for someone else.
AND!!!! less turnrate, the star cruiser got 7, the galaxy 6...
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
they apparently don't need lock box to release ship that are not IP appropriate.
the galaxy class in this game, who is less powerfull, flexible, adaptable than exelsior, ambassador, galor, or a simple BOP make it very IP inappropriate to me.
by the way, have you notice that every new lockbox or cstore cruiser ship got more and more turn rate?
dominion dreadnought:6
tal shiar adapted : 7
scimitar : 7
Elachi Monbosh : 10
but no heavy engie layout for them, nor a significant hull and shield reduction
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
Yeah, it's almost as if they where noticing what kind of ship (BOFF/Console layout) people want. But in the meantime the GCS get ignored...
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(Unless of course, people want to choose between different pictures. In that case, I'll have to see what templates can be made to choose from)
Regardless, the common topic would be the text. For example, "My name is ______ and I support a revamped Exploration Cruiser". No bias, no protest, just encouragement.
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Actually I was hoping for the Nebula, but today they already had the Rhode Island as a freebie, I think it won't be another science vessel. And I could not for the life of mine think of a reason they should hand out the Defiant Retrofit.
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Given the recent elachi lock box's appearance and apparent science focus of it's contents (a escort with 4 sci e 4 tacs and a ground trait optimal for everyone but especially on a sci), i wouldn't 100% exclude the possibility of the nebula being gave away.
If coincidences say anything, I'd bet on the Nebula (the standard one) and either the gorn draguas OR the vor'kang (the klink ship with the isometric charge module).
If instead they give away nothing on the klingon side, well....
its consoles and set up are all great for its style, BUT the BO slots ruin it for me, just like those same slots ruin a lot of ships for me.
Give us the diversity to play that the way we want and the Galaxy could sore to new heights again.
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IF they really give away the Gal -R for free today, i think they want to test if more people are unhappy with the Galaxy -R, then just those "few" GCS fans here in this thread.
On the other hand, it would be foolish for them to release a unchanged Galaxy -R, if they would have had at least payed some attention to this thread.
So in my opinion we can directly deduce if they where reading this thread.
If they just release the unchanged Galaxy - R and no one (aside from us) cares about it, no additional threads in the forum about how terrible this ships BOFF/console Layout is, i think we can clearly abandon the hope for a reworked ship forever.