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  • phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    toiva wrote: »
    Euh, how are we to buy anything on Tribble? My Zen aren't available there, and I can't get it for dilithium.

    It's already annoying I only have 2 character slots on Tribble and can't get my other toons copied there...

    She meant to say the infamous "working as intended". ;) (It makes sense if you don't think about it)
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  • robertcrayvenrobertcrayven Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So, still no fix planned for the epic fail graphics BSOD so many of us are having?
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    She meant to say the infamous "working as intended". ;) (It makes sense if you don't think about it)

    I'm so pleased I'm intended to be annoyed. :rolleyes:

    Still, is there a way of getting more char. slots on Tribble? Would I have to be a gold member (or LTS) to get some?
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Guys,please make sure to fix the bug in the "second wave "quest
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=308651

    while other bugs might be a slight nuisance , this one halts progression of storyline missions completely
  • atomictikiatomictiki Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    You're slowly getting there Cryptic, but I'm still not convinced that you're committed to gutting all the bad design out of season seven.
    Leave nerfing to the professionals.
  • dysonsolardysonsolar Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Why couldn't you fix the problem with Mountain Pass. THe mission isn't completeable, it's bugged and fubared as many have discovered. WHen is it going to be fixed? Sometime soon or never?
  • harrymonkleyharrymonkley Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I've been trying to do a character copy to tribble for a few days now, but I keep getting the operation failed try later message - is character copy broken atm?
  • phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    dysonsolar wrote: »
    Why couldn't you fix the problem with Mountain Pass. THe mission isn't completeable, it's bugged and fubared as many have discovered. WHen is it going to be fixed? Sometime soon or never?

    Seriously bugged, yes. But it definitely can be completed, albeit with workarounds. I was able to complete it twice without issue.
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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Don't really agree with the Fleet Excelsior being T3 and the Fleet Sovy being T5, simply because they are essentially equal to each other.

    While the Fleet Sovy has the Ensign Tac slot, the Fleet Excelsior has the higher turn rate and an integrated power; making the Fleet Excelsior a superior ship.

    While I do not believe it will happen, there should be one of three changes. Either give the Fleet Sovy something more to make worth being a T5 (don't matter if its an increase to hull points, shield mod, or turn rate) or bring the Fleet Sovy down to T3 (I would have said make them the same Tier, but then someone might get the idea to put the Fleet Excelsior in T5).
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Don't really agree with the Fleet Excelsior being T3 and the Fleet Sovy being T5, simply because they are essentially equal to each other.

    While the Fleet Sovy has the Ensign Tac slot, the Fleet Excelsior has the higher turn rate and an integrated power; making the Fleet Excelsior a superior ship.

    While I do not believe it will happen, there should be one of three changes. Either give the Fleet Sovy something more to make worth being a T5 (don't matter if its an increase to hull points, shield mod, or turn rate) or bring the Fleet Sovy down to T3 (I would have said make them the same Tier, but then someone might get the idea to put the Fleet Excelsior in T5).

    Fleet ships aren't put in Tiers depending on their stats. Before Season 6 came out, devs said that the intention is to simply offer more possibilities, not deliver even better and better ships when reaching a higher tier.

    A nice example is the Fleet Intrepid. It's also a Tier 5 ship. Compare with Tier 2 Fleet Recon sci ship.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I've been trying to do a character copy to tribble for a few days now, but I keep getting the operation failed try later message - is character copy broken atm?

    Do you have empty character slots on Tribble? I was having the same problem before I realised I curiously only have access to the "base" 2 slots there.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • bi0f0dd3rbi0f0dd3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    any word on that fix for Tachyon Harmonic....???
  • fredenburgfredenburg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    STOP IT NOW!!! I am so sick of you guys putting assult cruiser captains at the end!!! Put the excelsior Class at tier 5 not the sovereign! Cause the Retrofit Sovereign you gave us wasn't a sovereign... It was a Excelsior for the most part with a sovereign skin with poor turnign rate compatred to the normal ship. I quickly DROPPED the Retrofit adn went back to my regular sovereign! I sent multiple tickets on that it needed to be fixed! Your base modifier makes that RETROFIT turn slower then the sovereign and it not worth the trade in turn rate to Simply get a Tier 3 Tac ability. Hell I can't even get a response from devs about someone stealing from a fleet and that group in a fleet together so they make Money. So why should I exspect you guys to care about What the PLAYERS want. I even got them so bold to tell me, AND I QUOTE: @centerprize "They won't ban me cause I spend money with them." So do I. and Many others. Cryptic I understand you work for PW. But we support you. And we understand content. BUT!!! I want things fixed not so much more content. What do we have to do get your attention. You guys won't do anything about the fleet Federation Council who openly ROBS other fleets. And that openly endorse it. So where is the caring for your customers on that?!? If I get nothing else but a ban from chat on here, I do think you owe it to us for you to atleast look into the problems!
    ~Sincerly,
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Silly question, but from a bug testing point of view, what fleet has T5 Starbase or T5 Fleet Yard on TRIBBLE?

    Anyone?

    Would love to actually test that out but JF stopped at T3 when fleet progression went live on Holo. So how can you really flush out and test it.

    If you have a fleet at T5 on tribble i would love to know so i can test it out for STOked Radio.

    yes yes yes we need you guys to make a full level fleet on both side that anyone can join so we can test things
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Don't really agree with the Fleet Excelsior being T3 and the Fleet Sovy being T5, simply because they are essentially equal to each other.

    While the Fleet Sovy has the Ensign Tac slot, the Fleet Excelsior has the higher turn rate and an integrated power; making the Fleet Excelsior a superior ship.

    While I do not believe it will happen, there should be one of three changes. Either give the Fleet Sovy something more to make worth being a T5 (don't matter if its an increase to hull points, shield mod, or turn rate) or bring the Fleet Sovy down to T3 (I would have said make them the same Tier, but then someone might get the idea to put the Fleet Excelsior in T5).


    The Fleet Regent does need some more, because there is barely any difference between it and the standard Regent. I would suggest they make the Ensign Slot Universal and increase the shields and maybe increase her turn rate by .5.
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  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The Fleet Regent does need some more, because there is barely any difference between it and the standard Regent. I would suggest they make the Ensign Slot Universal and increase the shields and maybe increase her turn rate by .5.

    ^^^ This is the right idea. Heck I'd advocate the original regent needs the universal ensign slot.
  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Fleet versions of T5 ships dont get a different BO layout and they shouldn't anyway, they get a extra console slot and 10% more hull and shield

    Or are you saying the Defiant needs the Ens. tactical to be turned universal, get more shields and higher turn rate as well?

    Yes -- all the "worthless" ensign slots on those ships, the Defiant, the Intrepid, the Excelsior, the Galaxy and the Sovereign (regent) should be universal in the fleet versions. They were the the "Hero" ships and as such should be worth flying.
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  • silverfaustxsilverfaustx Member Posts: 262
    edited November 2012
    how about fixing the starbase projects that are stuck !!!
  • scipherscipher Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    fredenburg wrote: »
    STOP IT NOW!!! I am so sick of you guys putting assult cruiser captains at the end!!! Put the excelsior Class at tier 5 not the sovereign! Cause the Retrofit Sovereign you gave us wasn't a sovereign... It was a Excelsior for the most part with a sovereign skin with poor turnign rate compatred to the normal ship. I quickly DROPPED the Retrofit adn went back to my regular sovereign! I sent multiple tickets on that it needed to be fixed! Your base modifier makes that RETROFIT turn slower then the sovereign and it not worth the trade in turn rate to Simply get a Tier 3 Tac ability. Hell I can't even get a response from devs about someone stealing from a fleet and that group in a fleet together so they make Money. So why should I exspect you guys to care about What the PLAYERS want. I even got them so bold to tell me, AND I QUOTE: @centerprize "They won't ban me cause I spend money with them." So do I. and Many others. Cryptic I understand you work for PW. But we support you. And we understand content. BUT!!! I want things fixed not so much more content. What do we have to do get your attention. You guys won't do anything about the fleet Federation Council who openly ROBS other fleets. And that openly endorse it. So where is the caring for your customers on that?!? If I get nothing else but a ban from chat on here, I do think you owe it to us for you to atleast look into the problems!
    ~Sincerly,
    Diana
    Fleet Admiral
    Dark Horizon Fleet


    Yes devs fleet theft is something you should put a stop to ASAP. I feel this persons pain in regards to this, fix the problem Cryptic please.
    "No more wire hangers, Christina"
  • harrymonkleyharrymonkley Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    toiva wrote: »
    Do you have empty character slots on Tribble? I was having the same problem before I realised I curiously only have access to the "base" 2 slots there.

    Was trying to copy accross a second klink, so maybe that was the problem. Will try copying a fed across and see if that works. Thanks for the info.

    Edit: tried it and it worked for a fed, so I'll delete my klink toon and re-copy it
  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    fredenburg wrote: »
    STOP IT NOW!!! I am so sick of you guys putting assult cruiser captains at the end!!! Put the excelsior Class at tier 5 not the sovereign! Cause the Retrofit Sovereign you gave us wasn't a sovereign... It was a Excelsior for the most part with a sovereign skin with poor turnign rate compatred to the normal ship. I quickly DROPPED the Retrofit adn went back to my regular sovereign! I sent multiple tickets on that it needed to be fixed! Your base modifier makes that RETROFIT turn slower then the sovereign and it not worth the trade in turn rate to Simply get a Tier 3 Tac ability. Hell I can't even get a response from devs about someone stealing from a fleet and that group in a fleet together so they make Money. So why should I exspect you guys to care about What the PLAYERS want. I even got them so bold to tell me, AND I QUOTE: @centerprize "They won't ban me cause I spend money with them." So do I. and Many others. Cryptic I understand you work for PW. But we support you. And we understand content. BUT!!! I want things fixed not so much more content. What do we have to do get your attention. You guys won't do anything about the fleet Federation Council who openly ROBS other fleets. And that openly endorse it. So where is the caring for your customers on that?!? If I get nothing else but a ban from chat on here, I do think you owe it to us for you to atleast look into the problems!
    ~Sincerly,
    Diana
    Fleet Admiral
    Dark Horizon Fleet

    Preach it sister! There was a thread I started over in the general discussion forum about the insult that is placing the Fleet Assault Cruiser at tier 5. It got over 2000 views and 45+ posts in 24 hours. Obviously, we're not the only ones that feel this way. Please, Cryptic, change this before it goes live.

    There are also a lot of great compromises in that thread, including a tier 3 / tier 5 split option. Seriously, take a look at that.

    Also, going off the points above...if this does go through, people are going to get seriously robbed by unethical fleets offering to sell the Tier 5 AC and then "taking the money and running." This does not bode well.
  • tribblequeentribblequeen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Is there any word on what's going on with the people who are having the graphic issues or if that's going to get fixed?

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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,826 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Is there any word on what's going on with the people who are having the graphic issues or if that's going to get fixed?

    I would definitely like to know the answer to this also. AA above 2x is busted on AMD hardware, low resolution textures appearing everywhere, JamJamz clearly isn't upto fixing the missing/black textures appearing on ships, the same applies to tacofangs with maps that have these issues, and clearly Cryptic doesn't have a competent DX11 coder on staff at all!
  • cpc2011acpc2011a Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Great, new ships. Yes its sarcastic. Has the ship tailor been fixed yet?? I bet it hasn't.
  • thisisoverlordthisisoverlord Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Has the Minefield daily been fixed, can we now scan and collect our Marks??????
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  • vikingraidervikingraider Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The build you saw that on yesterday was the same build that's on Holodeck. So if the Vesta has the slots on Holodeck and not Tribble, it's a problem with your copied character. Probably because you didn't actually purchase the ship on Tribble. :)

    you CAN'T buy it on tribble....


    One question about the Fleet Excelsior... to get the reduced FM cost do you have to have bought the Low level one or does this also work for the Admiral refit? there are two different ones in the c-store, and as the refit was more expensive I would HOPE you apply that ship to get the reduced fleet module costs on the fleet variant.
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  • danielpenfolddanielpenfold Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Why can you not get it on the test sever?
    I'm so happy :D
  • braindotwavbraindotwav Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Fleet versions of T5 ships dont get a different BO layout and they shouldn't anyway, they get a extra console slot and 10% more hull and shield

    Or are you saying the Defiant needs the Ens. tactical to be turned universal, get more shields and higher turn rate as well?

    Not always. The Fleet Patrol Escort has an Ensign Universal slot, where the regular Patrol Escort has an Ensign Engineering slot. I think it's the only one, unless you count the Odyssey from the Fleet shipyard.
  • skonnskonn Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    fredenburg wrote:
    So why should I exspect you guys to care about What the PLAYERS want.

    This player wants his fleet Excelsior, and doesn't really care for getting a Sovvy at all. And so do most of the people in my fleet.

    To each their own, but speak for yourself. I won't bemoan others getting what they want, learn to do the same. You'd be telling us to stop complaining if the situation was reversed. I do, however, agree that the turn rate should be better!

    I also must agree that the B'Rel would benefit much more from an extra tac console :)

    Any ETA on the 29th century uniforms?
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