I have to agree on a negetive point being it is ground only, but more because of how ground combat actually works at endgame than becuase ground is inherently a bad idea. Gonna do a big post on this at some point.
Star fleet being fighting the Borg for decades and still have not develop any better ground weapons that don't need re-modulation, come on!! is time to get us some superior equipment to fight the enemies that don't need re-modulation every 2 seconds.
This 100%! Give us some P90s and a blocks of C4 and we can topple empires!
hmm... if it was destroyed before, and rebuild again, so we go now to destroy it again, how can this be a final blow to the Borg? They will just rebuild it all again.
Explains how/why we have to play the STF over and over, eh?
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That would mean over one hour missions, do you want a hour long mission were so many things can and will go wrong?
I can tell you if the have a noraml and elite - the first few weeks this mission WILL be 1 hour long if you pug!! And that's IF you are able to complete it!! The ground pugs are bad - but man or man a new one - wow that is going to be horrendous during the first while - with everyone who has not done a ground coming in with green gear on and dying every 2 seconds and having no heals. Fun Fun Fun.
Yes yes - stf channel, pre-mades and all that stuff. Just saying.
I think people need to remeber that unimatrix 01 is /was simply unimatrix ONE. Theres nothign in cannon saying there aren't other lesser unimatrix's. From what i read in the dev blog it sounds like where going after a lesser unimatrix that the borg queen just happens to have turned up at.
I'll add my disappointment that after all this waiting, there is no space portion at all.
I'm sure the devs have some metrics that must show ground to be played often - but I guarantee you that if we didn't need to do ground for the ground costume it wouldn't be run 1/4th as often as it is.
I'll add my disappointment that after all this waiting, there is no space portion at all.
I'm sure the devs have some metrics that must show ground to be played often - but I guarantee you that if we didn't need to do ground for the ground costume it wouldn't be run 1/4th as often as it is.
You are joking right? For every 1 ground played(across the system) probably 100 space missions are played - and that is probably an UNDERestimate
All you have to do is go to the tab that shows mission in progress - it shows that the stf grounds are barely there.
While its great to get the ending to the borg STFs we've been doing for years. Most of the players who joined after the STF revamps don't even know the original story that was there. Please add the original STFs back to its original contact so its an option. I'd love to show the storyline to the Fleet members who wasn't here.
Wonderful, a new ground STF to look forward to. And from the sound of it, this will probably be a covert operations mission. I can't wait until this goes live next month.
Wonderful, a new ground STF to look forward to. And from the sound of it, this will probably be a covert operations mission. I can't wait until this goes live next month.
Umm this isn't a new thing in STF's haha.....
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YAY finally into the hive is coming.....oh wait...its time gated rewards...
What bright spark thought it would be a good idea to time gate the rewards ?
When will they learn ?
YAY finally into the hive is coming.....oh wait...its time gated rewards...
What bright spark thought it would be a good idea to time gate the rewards ?
When will they learn ?
its probably the same as the current stf's. you get all the rewards when ever you play but you get more EDC and dilithium if you play it on the specific wednesday.
the difference us it sounds like into the hive will be added to the hourly calendar rather than the daily one.
I'll add my disappointment that after all this waiting, there is no space portion at all.
I'm sure the devs have some metrics that must show ground to be played often - but I guarantee you that if we didn't need to do ground for the ground costume it wouldn't be run 1/4th as often as it is.
I do agree that space is more popular, although i personally believe that is largely because of the ground bosses.
I actually really like the ground missions right up until the end when the bosses are a nightmare to fight with pugs. so no one wants to pug them because the hard bit is right at the end.
now im not saying there is not room for hard content that is designed for teams but i do hope they have made normal very puggable while elite is the real challenge
I'm really excited about this upcoming STF. Can't wait to play it with my dedicated STF folks.
I also agree that the story progress of the current STFs is totally ruined and don't make much sense. Especially Khitomer Accord seems so broken, without all the damaged borg ships entering the time vortex and explaining why you were in the tutorial able to defeat the borg.
I think if you could implement story trailer to each STFs and explain the situation, that'd make a lot more sense than a pop-up window of your BOFF that nobody bothers to read. Think of the Alerts from Champions Online, like of Hi-Pan and why he attempts to become the greatest magician on earth and heaven. Another example is Therakiel's Temple raid, where Robert Caliburn, the hero, leads the player character through the story to explain what the heck is going on.
And in addition to the above paragraph, add a skip option of trailers if everyone agrees to. So the people who want to rush through only to get the loot won't be bored and loose precious time.
p.s.: 29th century borg queen maybe, since the borg might have opened a temporal lockbox?
I don't really play ground stfs that much. But I'm sure there are plenty of people who do. My "problem" is not the ground mission itself but the continuing Borg focus. I think most of the people would like to see STF like missions who do not involve fighting the Borg but for example the Iconians, the Romulans or the Tholians.
I understand there will be a space STF involving Tholians coming up with season 7? I hope this marks a swich of focus. There's really to much Borg in the game right now.
I should note that there are a TON of space missions releasing with Season 7! More dev blogs soon
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Very cool! I actually tried my first space STF a little while ago and I honestly preferred that to the ground STF missions [maybe because, in space, I wasn't constantly clicking my "Frequency Remodulator"...:D] so I'm eager to play more of 'em.
Speaking of Season 7, has a release date been set yet?
your post is a fail. Who said they were working on a new stf the whole time (for 2 years) ? There were other things that had priority obviously.
The engineering reports and Gozer's (aka archived user) posts are your friends. INto the Hive and Children of Khan has been worked at for even longer then the PvP leaderboards, F@W fix and the cloak bug.
As brandon correctly pointed out, back then all STFs consist of a space and a ground section. They also had some story to it...but hey. Lets not think that into the hive will be a rushed half done job before it hits tribble. See ya there
I should note that there are a TON of space missions releasing with Season 7! More dev blogs soon
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
A 'TON' of space missions huh.....I always get suspicious when Cryptic uses generic terms like that.......we've had the 'BIG' and 'EPIC' updates that failed to deliver.....'TON' is meaningless without some number attached to it.
When they (Infected, The Cure, Khitomer Accord) were originally developed, they were one mission with space and ground portions. When they were remastered, space and ground versions were made. Into the Hive is about infiltrating the Unimatrix and confronting the Borg Queen -- we developed it to take you right into the heart of the action.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
'We developed it to take you right into the heart of the action.'.....I'm sorry,but after 2(!) years this really sounds like 'We were to lazy to actually finish the mission and design a space part for it.'
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Yeah ok, just kidding.
Because most people in STO love space combat and only do ground if pushed upon them?
I've been looking forward to this for over 2 years, and now that it's here, it's only the crappy half that made it! Sux big time
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This 100%! Give us some P90s and a blocks of C4 and we can topple empires!
Explains how/why we have to play the STF over and over, eh?
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I can tell you if the have a noraml and elite - the first few weeks this mission WILL be 1 hour long if you pug!! And that's IF you are able to complete it!! The ground pugs are bad - but man or man a new one - wow that is going to be horrendous during the first while - with everyone who has not done a ground coming in with green gear on and dying every 2 seconds and having no heals. Fun Fun Fun.
Yes yes - stf channel, pre-mades and all that stuff. Just saying.
I'm sure the devs have some metrics that must show ground to be played often - but I guarantee you that if we didn't need to do ground for the ground costume it wouldn't be run 1/4th as often as it is.
You are joking right? For every 1 ground played(across the system) probably 100 space missions are played - and that is probably an UNDERestimate
All you have to do is go to the tab that shows mission in progress - it shows that the stf grounds are barely there.
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Umm this isn't a new thing in STF's haha.....
Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
What bright spark thought it would be a good idea to time gate the rewards ?
When will they learn ?
its probably the same as the current stf's. you get all the rewards when ever you play but you get more EDC and dilithium if you play it on the specific wednesday.
the difference us it sounds like into the hive will be added to the hourly calendar rather than the daily one.
I do agree that space is more popular, although i personally believe that is largely because of the ground bosses.
I actually really like the ground missions right up until the end when the bosses are a nightmare to fight with pugs. so no one wants to pug them because the hard bit is right at the end.
now im not saying there is not room for hard content that is designed for teams but i do hope they have made normal very puggable while elite is the real challenge
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Makes more sense to test it while everything can mess other things up...
I also agree that the story progress of the current STFs is totally ruined and don't make much sense. Especially Khitomer Accord seems so broken, without all the damaged borg ships entering the time vortex and explaining why you were in the tutorial able to defeat the borg.
I think if you could implement story trailer to each STFs and explain the situation, that'd make a lot more sense than a pop-up window of your BOFF that nobody bothers to read. Think of the Alerts from Champions Online, like of Hi-Pan and why he attempts to become the greatest magician on earth and heaven. Another example is Therakiel's Temple raid, where Robert Caliburn, the hero, leads the player character through the story to explain what the heck is going on.
And in addition to the above paragraph, add a skip option of trailers if everyone agrees to. So the people who want to rush through only to get the loot won't be bored and loose precious time.
p.s.: 29th century borg queen maybe, since the borg might have opened a temporal lockbox?
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I understand there will be a space STF involving Tholians coming up with season 7? I hope this marks a swich of focus. There's really to much Borg in the game right now.
your post is a fail. Who said they were working on a new stf the whole time (for 2 years) ? There were other things that had priority obviously.
Very cool!
Speaking of Season 7, has a release date been set yet?
The engineering reports and Gozer's (aka archived user) posts are your friends. INto the Hive and Children of Khan has been worked at for even longer then the PvP leaderboards, F@W fix and the cloak bug.
As brandon correctly pointed out, back then all STFs consist of a space and a ground section. They also had some story to it...but hey. Lets not think that into the hive will be a rushed half done job before it hits tribble. See ya there
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A 'TON' of space missions huh.....I always get suspicious when Cryptic uses generic terms like that.......we've had the 'BIG' and 'EPIC' updates that failed to deliver.....'TON' is meaningless without some number attached to it.
'We developed it to take you right into the heart of the action.'.....I'm sorry,but after 2(!) years this really sounds like 'We were to lazy to actually finish the mission and design a space part for it.'
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