Do you see yourself as being no more special than they are?
no i do not but i had to wait why shouldnt they and stop trying to say i think im special because i do NOT but i do see this as like cuting in line because they paid money after i had to wait X number of days
a better comparison is waiting in line all night for the new iPhone just to find when they open the doors that the people who are just walking in can buy it before you.
Actually, it would be more like standing in line all night for the new iPhone, and then after the line clears out, somebody walking by can go in and buy one too.
You know, like actually happens.
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Actually, it would be more like standing in line all night for the new iPhone, and then after the line clears out, somebody walking by can go in and buy one too.
lets say after that line clears out then some one with say like 20 or more friends go in pay the teller a 1000$ to get ahead of you now tell me how would you fell after you just wait X numbers of hours or days? then when you step up to get you you find out there are no more left then you waiting just became meaningless did it not?
lets say after that line clears out then some one with say like 20 or more friends go in pay the teller a 1000$ to get ahead of you now tell me how would you fell after you just wait X numbers of hours or days? then when you step up to get you you find out there are no more left then you waiting just became meaningless did it not?
That only works if they get ahead of you. You already got yours.
lets say after that line clears out then some one with say like 20 or more friends go in pay the teller a 1000$ to get ahead of you now tell me how would you fell after you just wait X numbers of hours or days? then when you step up to get you you find out there are no more left then you waiting just became meaningless did it not?
What are you talking about ahead of me? Nobody paid to get the rewards before I got them; the moment they pulled the trigger on this change, I got them, and so did anybody else who paid, and somebody who paid the next day got them one day later than I did.
Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
What are you talking about ahead of me? Nobody paid to get the rewards before I got them; the moment they pulled the trigger on this change, I got them, and so did anybody else who paid, and somebody who paid the next day got them one day later than I did.
after you still had to wait X numbers of days right or wrong????????????????????????????/
no i do not but i had to wait why shouldnt they and stop trying to say i think im special because i do NOT but i do see this as like cuting in line because they paid money after i had to wait X number of days
You had to wait while it was being developed, they don't. You both paid the same money for the same product, nobody is better than the other.
The amount of pettiness in this thread is astounding.
sorry i dont beleave it took as long as ppl think to developed 1 ship 1 pet 1 boff 1 shuttle 1 Starship Material and last alot of titles
Even if it took less time than I think, they didn't start on it right away either. The ship didn't exist six months ago, whether it took them a few weeks to make or a few days as you seem to think.
Even if it took less time than I think, they didn't start on it right away either. The ship didn't exist six months ago, whether it took them a few weeks to make or a few days as you seem to think.
sorry you do not work for cryptic so you know as much as i do wich are guse work
im not going to lie i get why they did it the game is hurting neeeds money but they could have say did a 2k and then past and future lifers say could have goting early access to that one not the one ppl had to still wait for
im not going to lie i get why they did it the game is hurting neeeds money but they could have say did a 2k and then past and future lifers say could have goting early access to that one not the one ppl had to still wait for
I really wish I could understand any of what you just tried to communicate.
are them ppl working for cryptic are they in on the staff metings?
I'm done here, this is a giant waste of time. This guy doesn't believe anything that doesn't come straight from Cryptic. But when Cryptic says it took them this long to produce something, he says that is obviously not true as well.
Can't argue with someone who thinks the only facts are the ones they make up themselves, and everyone else is ignorant or lying.
after you still had to wait X numbers of days right or wrong????????????????????????????/
They waited the same number of days; they just didn't pay until the end. You paid at the beginning. You could have chosen not to do that; but you didn't. As a result, you got some things they didn't. Here's a partial list:
1) To play the game during the interim without Silver restrictions.
2) A whole bunch of Zen.
You were rewarded for buying your LTS when you did. They are being rewarded for buying their LTS when they did. You were rewarded more than they were. The fact that they were also rewarded doesn't mean you were rewarded less.
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I really wish I could understand any of what you just tried to communicate.
I'm done here, this is a giant waste of time. This guy doesn't believe anything that doesn't come straight from Cryptic. But when Cryptic says it took them this long to produce something, he says that is obviously not true as well.
Can't argue with someone who thinks the only facts are the ones they make up themselves, and everyone else is ignorant or lying.
Giant waste of time.
no its not that i dont beleave any thing but i could easily say me and my friends think this dose it mean we are right? no its dont not for it would clearly guess work from me and my friends for i do not no more work for cryptic then you do so i cant know how this this and that could be for cryptic dose not include me or you in there staff metings im not there to see who starts work on what how long they stay working on it or how long it took them to complete it
and just fyi he didnt say any thing about Dev said this just what he and OTHER ppl talk about
They waited the same number of days; they just didn't pay until the end. You paid at the beginning. You could have chosen not to do that; but you didn't. As a result, you got some things they didn't. Here's a partial list:
1) To play the game during the interim without Silver restrictions.
2) A whole bunch of Zen.
You were rewarded for buying your LTS when you did. They are being rewarded for buying their LTS when they did. You were rewarded more than they were. The fact that they were also rewarded doesn't mean you were rewarded less.
i didnt get a whole bunch of zen other then my 500 a month not even sure what the other is about
$5 a month of Zen isn't a "whole bunch" to you? It's $5 more than they got during those months.
no its not for it dont even buy a outfit and only ships you will get on 500 a month is a low lvl ships takes it more then 3 months to get a 1600 or 2k zen ship
and unless they change it new lifer would still get a 500 a month stipend for them being a lifer makes them gold
They waited the same number of days; they just didn't pay until the end. You paid at the beginning. You could have chosen not to do that; but you didn't. As a result, you got some things they didn't. Here's a partial list:
1) To play the game during the interim without Silver restrictions.
2) A whole bunch of Zen.
You were rewarded for buying your LTS when you did. They are being rewarded for buying their LTS when they did. You were rewarded more than they were. The fact that they were also rewarded doesn't mean you were rewarded less.
I found all your posts on this topic quite good. I used to play LOTRO before i came to STO. I am a LTS there and when the STO server is down i sometimes log in and find i usually have a pile of points accumulated. I expect it is the same here, over time every LTS here will indeed end up with "A whole bunch of Zen"
As a player who has been with the game since its inception..and one who chose to pay monthly..I have a real problem with the way this Veteran's awards thing is being done. I am on day 929..and now I've been told that regardless of whether I've been paying to play this game since it began..when I reach 1000 days..there won't be any veterans awards for me. I was told that if I don't purchase a lifetime membership..for $200, then I won't be able to get the rewards that I have been grinding and playing forward for 929 days. Figure it out Cryptic/Perfect World..$14.99 x however months STO has been going..It sure comes to alot more than $200. So who is the "genius" that thought up this mathematical work of art? Do you really think that all the people who are still paying to play or who at least payed to play up until you went Free to play..are going to purchase a Lifetime Membership after being faithful to the game for all these months by paying $14.99/month since the game's inception.
The game is absolutely great..but this thing..really makes me see that the people doing the money are not the people who are making the game..and I could probably go as far to say that the people making the game..do not know what the money people are doing... This is the biggest farce I've ever seen..I can do with out the Chimera..all I've heard about it were complaints anyway..justlike the dreadnought..most say..dreadnought was a waste of "space".
Next time you money people want to TRIBBLE around with the people who are keepingyou in business..consult with the people who are making the game..get their two cents worth..I bet we wouldn't have seen such a move as this.
As a player who has been with the game since its inception..and one who chose to pay monthly..I have a real problem with the way this Veteran's awards thing is being done. I am on day 929..and now I've been told that regardless of whether I've been paying to play this game since it began..when I reach 1000 days..there won't be any veterans awards for me. I was told that if I don't purchase a lifetime membership..for $200, then I won't be able to get the rewards that I have been grinding and playing forward for 929 days. Figure it out Cryptic/Perfect World..$14.99 x however months STO has been going..It sure comes to alot more than $200. So who is the "genius" that thought up this mathematical work of art? Do you really think that all the people who are still paying to play or who at least payed to play up until you went Free to play..are going to purchase a Lifetime Membership after being faithful to the game for all these months by paying $14.99/month since the game's inception.
The game is absolutely great..but this thing..really makes me see that the people doing the money are not the people who are making the game..and I could probably go as far to say that the people making the game..do not know what the money people are doing... This is the biggest farce I've ever seen..I can do with out the Chimera..all I've heard about it were complaints anyway..justlike the dreadnought..most say..dreadnought was a waste of "space".
Next time you money people want to TRIBBLE around with the people who are keepingyou in business..consult with the people who are making the game..get their two cents worth..I bet we wouldn't have seen such a move as this.
Unclereeky
106th Fleet
This is false, if you continue your gold sub to the 1000th day you will receive the same reward everyone else is getting.
The only thing that changed is lifetimes are basically given retroactive credit all the way back to day 1. AKA: instant access to all vet rewards.
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yes i am i dont see any new lifer being any more special then i am
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Do you see yourself as being no more special than they are?
no i do not but i had to wait why shouldnt they and stop trying to say i think im special because i do NOT but i do see this as like cuting in line because they paid money after i had to wait X number of days
system Lord Baal is dead
Actually, it would be more like standing in line all night for the new iPhone, and then after the line clears out, somebody walking by can go in and buy one too.
You know, like actually happens.
lets say after that line clears out then some one with say like 20 or more friends go in pay the teller a 1000$ to get ahead of you now tell me how would you fell after you just wait X numbers of hours or days? then when you step up to get you you find out there are no more left then you waiting just became meaningless did it not?
system Lord Baal is dead
That only works if they get ahead of you. You already got yours.
but still not seeing the point i had to wait now all of its meaningless
system Lord Baal is dead
What are you talking about ahead of me? Nobody paid to get the rewards before I got them; the moment they pulled the trigger on this change, I got them, and so did anybody else who paid, and somebody who paid the next day got them one day later than I did.
after you still had to wait X numbers of days right or wrong????????????????????????????/
system Lord Baal is dead
You had to wait while it was being developed, they don't. You both paid the same money for the same product, nobody is better than the other.
The amount of pettiness in this thread is astounding.
sorry i dont beleave it took as long as ppl think to developed 1 ship 1 pet 1 boff 1 shuttle 1 Starship Material and last alot of titles
system Lord Baal is dead
I had to wait a long time before I could drive a 2012 Lexus.
Now people can just walk right out and pay the money and drive right off the lot with it.
What the hell man I waited so many months while they were in production before I could get mine! These people should have to wait also!
For something that didn't exist yet. You had to wait, ultimately, because it didn't exist yet.
Same as with The 2800. Might as well suggest that new people have to wait for content releases.
What you think happened and what actually happened are not the same, obviously.
Also http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
Even if it took less time than I think, they didn't start on it right away either. The ship didn't exist six months ago, whether it took them a few weeks to make or a few days as you seem to think.
sorry i dont click on player links for they may be a virus
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sorry you do not work for cryptic so you know as much as i do wich are guse work
system Lord Baal is dead
You wouldn't get the joke anyway.
But my guesses are shaped by talking to people and reading what people say.
I guess they could be lying.
But if you want to think someone is lying, there is nothing anyone can do to prove it to you otherwise.
If you want to think the moon landing was fake or that Abraham Lincoln didn't exist, no one can ever prove you wrong.
system Lord Baal is dead
are them ppl working for cryptic are they in on the staff metings?
system Lord Baal is dead
I really wish I could understand any of what you just tried to communicate.
I'm done here, this is a giant waste of time. This guy doesn't believe anything that doesn't come straight from Cryptic. But when Cryptic says it took them this long to produce something, he says that is obviously not true as well.
Can't argue with someone who thinks the only facts are the ones they make up themselves, and everyone else is ignorant or lying.
Giant waste of time.
They waited the same number of days; they just didn't pay until the end. You paid at the beginning. You could have chosen not to do that; but you didn't. As a result, you got some things they didn't. Here's a partial list:
1) To play the game during the interim without Silver restrictions.
2) A whole bunch of Zen.
You were rewarded for buying your LTS when you did. They are being rewarded for buying their LTS when they did. You were rewarded more than they were. The fact that they were also rewarded doesn't mean you were rewarded less.
no its not that i dont beleave any thing but i could easily say me and my friends think this dose it mean we are right? no its dont not for it would clearly guess work from me and my friends for i do not no more work for cryptic then you do so i cant know how this this and that could be for cryptic dose not include me or you in there staff metings im not there to see who starts work on what how long they stay working on it or how long it took them to complete it
and just fyi he didnt say any thing about Dev said this just what he and OTHER ppl talk about
system Lord Baal is dead
i didnt get a whole bunch of zen other then my 500 a month not even sure what the other is about
system Lord Baal is dead
$5 a month of Zen isn't a "whole bunch" to you? It's $5 more than they got during those months.
no its not for it dont even buy a outfit and only ships you will get on 500 a month is a low lvl ships takes it more then 3 months to get a 1600 or 2k zen ship
and unless they change it new lifer would still get a 500 a month stipend for them being a lifer makes them gold
http://sto.perfectworld.com/about/freetoplay/features-matrix
system Lord Baal is dead
I found all your posts on this topic quite good. I used to play LOTRO before i came to STO. I am a LTS there and when the STO server is down i sometimes log in and find i usually have a pile of points accumulated. I expect it is the same here, over time every LTS here will indeed end up with "A whole bunch of Zen"
The game is absolutely great..but this thing..really makes me see that the people doing the money are not the people who are making the game..and I could probably go as far to say that the people making the game..do not know what the money people are doing... This is the biggest farce I've ever seen..I can do with out the Chimera..all I've heard about it were complaints anyway..justlike the dreadnought..most say..dreadnought was a waste of "space".
Next time you money people want to TRIBBLE around with the people who are keepingyou in business..consult with the people who are making the game..get their two cents worth..I bet we wouldn't have seen such a move as this.
Unclereeky
106th Fleet
This is false, if you continue your gold sub to the 1000th day you will receive the same reward everyone else is getting.
The only thing that changed is lifetimes are basically given retroactive credit all the way back to day 1. AKA: instant access to all vet rewards.