I can see the kdf having the time tech due to that Janeway stole it from them in the series finale but the feds having 29th century tech 3-4 centuries earlier is just a money grab and is in no way canon. For the matter of fact the feds having it isn't even soft canon its just made up garbage on top of that for a money grabbing play to ruin the smidgeon of integrity for the franchise it had left.
Heck the main lockbox KDF ship can't even equip cannons and then neither of them have cloaking devices either so its a bunch of bull... Only people who will be getting this stuff will be people who don't care for the franchise/IP but just to try to make money LOL...
Edit: Some may not get it but okay the TNG/DS9/Voyager ERA was 24th century according to CANON... The game comes in at almost a decade into the 25th century so I do not see where people are getting that this is the 28th century some people are skipping atleast 2 centuries versus the actual 3 centuries earlier that the fed stuff is appearing in the game LOL.
Why would the Federation have a problem with using tech taken from the future?
Not everyone at cryptic, has time to sit on their butts and make snarky comments. sometimes in a rush to punch the clock and go home, people make mistakes.
Well, how long does it take to quickly read through a set of stats and make sure everything is correct?
On an unrelated note, your signature made me laugh my head off.
Why would the Federation have a problem with using tech taken from the future?
I guess your right the possibility of creating paradoxes and such its such a small risk to erase something like umm say TIME? LOL
It appears though they went out of their way to make the KDF ones look KDF but still keep that same rehashed federation design in the ships. Forget nerfing stealth there isn't even any stealth on these things... They are like varanus's that will give you 13 seconds of your life back.
In about 6 months there will be a resale and the new resale will give you an additional 2 seconds for another 250 dollars!
Also I was considering to buy the KDF ships next week but... Where is the cloakind device? Seriously? I hope it's there and that it's just a typo.
don't think the mirror universe have cloaking technology?? if not then that could be why it's not there ?
infact didn't they try and get it from 'our' 'prime' universe but it wouldn't work. therefore maybe they still don't have it??
Excert from Dev blog 29, second to last sentence, talking about the Korath bridge-
" In addition, warriors can also set trophies from a console on the bridge - while these trophies are not displayed, it will allow players to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission."
I am a little confused by this statement. Not displaying trophies allows you to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission? Seems like a strange ability, how is this useful?
Excert from Dev blog 29, second to last sentence, talking about the Korath bridge
" In addition, warriors can also set trophies from a console on the bridge - while these trophies are not displayed, it will allow players to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission."
I am a little confused by this statement. Not displaying trophies allows you to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission? Seems like a strange ability, how is this useful?
The KDF mission "Bringing Down the House" requires you to visit your ship's interior to place a trophy in order to complete the mission. We included this option on the KDF bridge so the mission could be completed, but the trophies are not visible.
The KDF mission "Bringing Down the House" requires you to visit your ship's interior to place a trophy in order to complete the mission. We included this option on the KDF bridge so the mission could be completed, but the trophies are not visible.
It's almost as bad as they release some fantastic looking ships for the first time in ages and make them gambling box ships.
That is a much greater CRIME.
I disagree. Any sensible person is able to get a lockbox ship if they know what they are doing. Making such ships so bad they arn't worth using is a lot worse.
Based on wanting 2 copies of EPtS, Transfer Shield Strength and Hazard Emitters (as everyone should);
The destroyer has effectively got the same layout as the MAVE or the Escort Carrier. Both pretty poor as far as damage output goes. (not counting carrier pets obviously)
The Wells class has a worse BO layout than the Orb Weaver in pretty much every way. Less tanky, less damage and all it gains in return is 1 more science power in the lt slot.
I think the problem is in this game we have a very limited view on what is acceptable as far as BO layouts go. Every ship can only have 1 commander, 1 lt commander, 2 lts and 1 Ensign OR 1 commander, 2 lt commander, 2 ensign. The simple fact is there are now so many ships that follow these rules that we are beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel and these ships are the result of that.
The escort I'm waiting for; (note any/all can be universal)
Commander Tac
Lt commander Tac
Lt commander Engineer
Ensign Science
Ensign Science
Cruiser; (This exists in the odyssey but i'd rather a ship that actually turned)
Commander Engineer
Lt commander Tac
Lt Science
Lt Tac
Ensign Engineer
Alternativly they could try breaking the mould with BO layouts. As they evidently dont care about balance in pvp I dont see why we cant have something different after 3 years.
I just compared the stats of temporal science ships and the Tholian Orb Weaver. The only major difference aside from the boff layout is the turn rate, with temporals having base turn of 15, while Orb Weaver has only 9. The rest is pretty much the same, which makes me wonder about "balance" issues. The only other science ship I can think of that is as slow is the Fleet ARSVR, but it has base hp of 34,000. Perhaps Orb Weaver stats should be updated to compensate for such a difference?
The KDF mission "Bringing Down the House" requires you to visit your ship's interior to place a trophy in order to complete the mission. We included this option on the KDF bridge so the mission could be completed, but the trophies are not visible.
Okay, don't think this question has been asked before. Hopefully I can make this clear.
As I understand it, with the older Mirror Universe Fed Cruisers (the assault that looks like a star and the star that looks like an assault) you could do the following. Get a Mirror universe Star Cruiser (yellow assault skin) and put it on any version of the Star cruiser, so you could have a Fleet star cruiser that had the yellow assault skin.
My question is as follows. With the former fleet skins being taken out of the C-store, can we have get a fleet star cruiser, and a mirror star cruiser and end up somehow with a Fleet star cruiser that has the yellow Imperial skin, the Imperial skin being the former C-store skin that will probably go to the Fleet Assault cruiser when it comes out, without having previously bought the C-store skin). And of course I am asking for all possible fleet combinations. Personally I would like a Deep Space science Nomad skin on a Fleet Recon science ship. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if so, what combination of things are needed for it?
Fleet, Veteran, 'Mirror', etc=Materials. The ship -type-, ie Deep Space Sci Vessel, Assault Cruiser, etc=skeletons.
The mirror skins last time applied to any ship that had that same skeleton. I for instance have on my Assault Cruiser refit the old Imperial parts and the Mirror skin.
I imagine the same rules will apply to the mirror ships this time-you could put the mirror..Deep space sci, wasn't it? That looks like the prime universe recon sci vessel?'s material on the prime universe recon sci vessel.
You can not put the deep space sci vessel -parts- on the recon sci.
Just the material.
Okay, so I think it works opposite of what I thought.
So if I get a mirror skin or material, I can use that material on any of the skeltons that have the right parts. So with the star cruiser mirror (that looks like an assault cruiser) I can use on any prime universe assault cruiser. Or if I want a Fleet DSSV with yellow markings, I woule need the mirror recon sci (that looks like a DSSV) and the Fleet DSSV ship.
But there is no way to get something that looks like a DSSV but performs like a Fleet recon sci. I would have to use the Fleet DSSV to get that look. Okay, bit disappointing, but eh.
The Manheim Device is part of a set, and can be used on any Timeship, including the Wells, Mobius, Korath, Krenn, Aeon or Rozhenko class vessels. does this means that consoles are acc bound or this is one more unclear statment from cryptic
i woud like to know that,i am trying to find out that from yesturday
I wish we could just buy the new uniforms without the cost of an arm nad a leg...would have gladly bought it from the c-store
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Does that skin feature work account based or just character based? No point if character based, as it's a waste of a ship, being that they are only character based ships rather than account as they should be considering they are no longer faction neutral.
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If the skins are account bound then you can have one character with a mobius and another with a wells class and have everything unlocked. But if you have to have BOTH ships on the same character then this was a wasted "feature" (ie. marketing) attempt. It just costs too much to get them both only to waste one.
I've only been getting doff packs so far, is any one else having this issue? I've only managed to get one temporal doff so far and he is a bartender with no time related any thing, although the name Jane Zombie was unexpected.
I wish we could just buy the new uniforms without the cost of an arm nad a leg...would have gladly bought it from the c-store
I wish that Cryptic would use the C-Store in conjunction with Lockboxes. Every time we get a new Lockbox we get some special thing to go with it in the C-Store.
The only way I could imagine Cryptic could make the same amount of money from selling these lockbox items through the cstore, would be if the cstore versions where not account unlocks, nor character unlocks, but rented unlocks.
500 dilithium gets you a few hours or something. It could even incentivize people to spend money/dil on buying keys to unlock permanent versions - once they've tried them out and seen if they like them.
500 dilithium gets you a few hours or something. It could even incentivize people to spend money/dil on buying keys to unlock permanent versions - once they've tried them out and seen if they like them.
WoW made billions of dollars doing precisely that in it's Asian market - where subscribers don't buy Subscriptions. They buy X minutes/hours of playing time.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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Why would the Federation have a problem with using tech taken from the future?
The Temporal Prime Directive, for one. Though, i may still try my hand at getting that Wells Class.
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
Even better than the VA Intrepid Retrofit, which I looove...
Damn. xD
Well, how long does it take to quickly read through a set of stats and make sure everything is correct?
On an unrelated note, your signature made me laugh my head off.
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
Because they always respond to forum rage like someone oversteering for a skid and they do love their stealth nerfs.
I guess your right the possibility of creating paradoxes and such its such a small risk to erase something like umm say TIME? LOL
It appears though they went out of their way to make the KDF ones look KDF but still keep that same rehashed federation design in the ships. Forget nerfing stealth there isn't even any stealth on these things... They are like varanus's that will give you 13 seconds of your life back.
In about 6 months there will be a resale and the new resale will give you an additional 2 seconds for another 250 dollars!
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
don't think the mirror universe have cloaking technology?? if not then that could be why it's not there ?
infact didn't they try and get it from 'our' 'prime' universe but it wouldn't work. therefore maybe they still don't have it??
sure it's a ds9 episode
The TPD only applies to the past, as I see it, just like the Prime Directive only applies to less advanced cultures, not more advanced ones.
Thanks for nothing.
It's almost as bad as they release some fantastic looking ships for the first time in ages and make them gambling box ships.
That is a much greater CRIME.
" In addition, warriors can also set trophies from a console on the bridge - while these trophies are not displayed, it will allow players to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission."
I am a little confused by this statement. Not displaying trophies allows you to complete the "Bringing Down the House" mission? Seems like a strange ability, how is this useful?
The KDF mission "Bringing Down the House" requires you to visit your ship's interior to place a trophy in order to complete the mission. We included this option on the KDF bridge so the mission could be completed, but the trophies are not visible.
Cheers,
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Thanks and understood.
That's a missed opportunity. Yup. Yup.
I disagree. Any sensible person is able to get a lockbox ship if they know what they are doing. Making such ships so bad they arn't worth using is a lot worse.
Based on wanting 2 copies of EPtS, Transfer Shield Strength and Hazard Emitters (as everyone should);
The destroyer has effectively got the same layout as the MAVE or the Escort Carrier. Both pretty poor as far as damage output goes. (not counting carrier pets obviously)
The Wells class has a worse BO layout than the Orb Weaver in pretty much every way. Less tanky, less damage and all it gains in return is 1 more science power in the lt slot.
I think the problem is in this game we have a very limited view on what is acceptable as far as BO layouts go. Every ship can only have 1 commander, 1 lt commander, 2 lts and 1 Ensign OR 1 commander, 2 lt commander, 2 ensign. The simple fact is there are now so many ships that follow these rules that we are beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel and these ships are the result of that.
The escort I'm waiting for; (note any/all can be universal)
Commander Tac
Lt commander Tac
Lt commander Engineer
Ensign Science
Ensign Science
Science ship;
Commander Sci
Lt commander Tac
Lt Tac
Lt Engineer
Ensign Engineer
Cruiser; (This exists in the odyssey but i'd rather a ship that actually turned)
Commander Engineer
Lt commander Tac
Lt Science
Lt Tac
Ensign Engineer
Alternativly they could try breaking the mould with BO layouts. As they evidently dont care about balance in pvp I dont see why we cant have something different after 3 years.
Why not make them visible? Too much work?
yes cus those lock box ships only have a bridge nothing else so to fix mission they instead of doing work they added a console u click instead.
As I understand it, with the older Mirror Universe Fed Cruisers (the assault that looks like a star and the star that looks like an assault) you could do the following. Get a Mirror universe Star Cruiser (yellow assault skin) and put it on any version of the Star cruiser, so you could have a Fleet star cruiser that had the yellow assault skin.
My question is as follows. With the former fleet skins being taken out of the C-store, can we have get a fleet star cruiser, and a mirror star cruiser and end up somehow with a Fleet star cruiser that has the yellow Imperial skin, the Imperial skin being the former C-store skin that will probably go to the Fleet Assault cruiser when it comes out, without having previously bought the C-store skin). And of course I am asking for all possible fleet combinations. Personally I would like a Deep Space science Nomad skin on a Fleet Recon science ship. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if so, what combination of things are needed for it?
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The mirror skins last time applied to any ship that had that same skeleton. I for instance have on my Assault Cruiser refit the old Imperial parts and the Mirror skin.
I imagine the same rules will apply to the mirror ships this time-you could put the mirror..Deep space sci, wasn't it? That looks like the prime universe recon sci vessel?'s material on the prime universe recon sci vessel.
You can not put the deep space sci vessel -parts- on the recon sci.
Just the material.
So if I get a mirror skin or material, I can use that material on any of the skeltons that have the right parts. So with the star cruiser mirror (that looks like an assault cruiser) I can use on any prime universe assault cruiser. Or if I want a Fleet DSSV with yellow markings, I woule need the mirror recon sci (that looks like a DSSV) and the Fleet DSSV ship.
But there is no way to get something that looks like a DSSV but performs like a Fleet recon sci. I would have to use the Fleet DSSV to get that look. Okay, bit disappointing, but eh.
Thanks.
Nouveau riche LTS member
i woud like to know that,i am trying to find out that from yesturday
can please somone comfirm that:mad:
Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
This
If the skins are account bound then you can have one character with a mobius and another with a wells class and have everything unlocked. But if you have to have BOTH ships on the same character then this was a wasted "feature" (ie. marketing) attempt. It just costs too much to get them both only to waste one.
I wish that Cryptic would use the C-Store in conjunction with Lockboxes. Every time we get a new Lockbox we get some special thing to go with it in the C-Store.
For example:
Temporal: 29th Century Uniforms
Cardassian: Cardassian Boffs and Captains
Stuff like that.
500 dilithium gets you a few hours or something. It could even incentivize people to spend money/dil on buying keys to unlock permanent versions - once they've tried them out and seen if they like them.